Vista Del Lago Community

[CobraDave]

I'm looking to find some insider information on this community. This spot is near Havasu Landing and are full deeded lots. You pick your lot, then pick your Mobil home or whatever they call it these days. No attachment to the Indians besides providing water utilities and Launch Ramp.

We stayed there over the weekend and the homes were really nice. The views of the lake are great. I became a fan of running the golf cart to the lake and fishing. Just seems like more of a lake house feel. They run about 200k and up. Very customizable. The pull through garage house in the pics below was 249k.

No space rent, just an HOA fee of about 160 a month. They have a clubhouse, pool, bbq, etc. Anyone have a spot here? It seems pretty empty. Any negatives?

 

[FreeBird236]

I think they helped sponsor the 2009 Eliminator regatta. We had our raft up in the cove at the development and they took some people on tours, just trying to sell I guess. I actually thought the development had went under, maybe this is under new ownership. I actually don't know anything about it.

 

[CobraDave]

I think they helped sponsor the 2009 Eliminator regatta. We had our raft up in the cove at the development and they took some people on tours, just trying to sell I guess. I actually thought the development had went under, maybe this is under new ownership. I actually don't know anything about it.

I think the fully deeded part is pretty recent.

 

[X Hoser]

I have no specific information but it's still California :yikes Seems like it is a long ways from anywhere, which would have it advantages and disadvantages. Bottom line for me, I wouldn't have anything that was even remotely dependent on the Chimeuve (sp?) tribe, even utilities.

 

[FreeBird236]

I think the fully deeded part is pretty recent.

That may be, I'm pretty sure it was dormant for a few years. Maybe Paul65 or Rvrdiva will know something about it.

 

[CobraDave]

I have no specific information but it's still California :yikes Seems like it is a long ways from anywhere, which would have it advantages and disadvantages. Bottom line for me, I wouldn't have anything that was even remotely dependent on the Chimeuve (sp?) tribe, even utilities.

For sure. For me I like its a little quieter. Take the cart to the grocery store or the bar holding a beer in your hand. Do some off roading from your door. Really close to the lake with a brand new home at a 200k price point. And forty foot deep garages.

I don't like the idea of towing all the way around to Havasu for boat service or issues. The gas station there sticks it to you without lube. And ramp prices are controlled by the Indians.

 

[Singleton]

Looked at it back in 2008 or 2009. The year they sponsored the Ultra regatta and we had a pool party at the clubhouse. We liked the idea, but then realized the drive to get there sucks (I don't take the 40, to far out of the way from SD), if you need food you have to go to Havasu, no other restaurants and bars (only the casino). Decided after all that Havasu would be better place for us. Now we are thinking an RV with a spot at the Islander would be better for us then a Havasu house.

 

[Paul65k]

Looked at it back in 2008 or 2009. The year they sponsored the Ultra regatta and we had a pool party at the clubhouse. We liked the idea, but then realized the drive to get there sucks (I don't take the 40, to far out of the way from SD), if you need food you have to go to Havasu, no other restaurants and bars (only the casino). Decided after all that Havasu would be better place for us. Now we are thinking an RV with a spot at the Islander would be better for us then a Havasu house.

So you're back on that kick again..........give it 6-12 months and we'll have to see where you are :rotflmao:

 

[Bobby V]

Havaduner has a place on that side of the lake. PM him.

 

[Singleton]

So you're back on that kick again..........give it 6-12 months and we'll have to see where you are :rotflmao:

My wife controls that decision. She wants an RV, but is warming to something small in Havasu. She enjoyed the jeep trip we did this year.

 

[BMABITY]

I'm too interested in this place, looks to be like a nice get-away form the chaos Havasu can be at times.

My parents friend is building a place in there as we speak. I'm hoping to check it out over memorial weekend.

How far is the water from the homes, half a mile?

 

[Crazy boat wife]

We have a place across the street from Vista del ago. Do you have any specific questions.we like this side of the lake. It does have it's quarks to.

 

[CobraDave]

I'm too interested in this place, looks to be like a nice get-away form the chaos Havasu can be at times.

My parents friend is building a place in there as we speak. I'm hoping to check it out over memorial weekend.

How far is the water from the homes, half a mile?

Probably less than that. 5 min cart ride

 

[CobraDave]

We have a place across the street from Vista del ago. Do you have any specific questions.we like this side of the lake. It does have it's quarks to.

One is how long have they been trying to sell this place and is it ever going to get occupied? I don't want to buy then they abandon the project.

Are you in Havasu Landings? My good friend grew up there so I have an idea of what it's like. He has a growing hatred for the Indians there. Lol. He loves the area and said deeded land changes everything over there.

 

[Crazy boat wife]

From what I've heard and seen it's been a while but not to sure. The real estate there really died in 08 and has been slow to recover. We are on a deeded lot on the road running parallel to Vista del ago.

 

[AzGeo]

One is how long have they been trying to sell this place and is it ever going to get occupied? I don't want to buy then they abandon the project.

Are you in Havasu Landings? My good friend grew up there so I have an idea of what it's like. He has a growing hatred for the Indians there. Lol. He loves the area and said deeded land changes everything over there.

he knows about the retired Rail Road Workers, who had DEEDED LAND from the legal rail road section and were thrown out, or burned out, back in the 80's and 90's ?

Think about this; who runs the water system, electricity, sewers (septic pumping), road access, and TV /dish installations ?

Over the years that I have had friends 'come and go' from that side of the lake, never by their own choice, always by an act of the Tribe .

 

[RiverDave]

It's deeded lots with mfg'd homes as said. You CAN build a stick built RV garage on your property.

I know the real estate agent that sells all the lots over there if you want me to put you in touch with her and show you what is and isn't available. They range from 55-65k if memory serves? I might be able to get you some "rdp" love on the deal. Just shoot me a pm

 

[CobraDave]

he knows about the retired Rail Road Workers, who had DEEDED LAND from the legal rail road section and were thrown out, or burned out, back in the 80's and 90's ?

Think about this; who runs the water system, electricity, sewers (septic pumping), road access, and TV /dish installations ?

Over the years that I have had friends 'come and go' from that side of the lake, never by their own choice, always by an act of the Tribe .

I asked about utilities. Water is from the tribe. Electric is SoCal Edison. I get your point though. That's why my buddies parents left. The Indians raising the space rent over there.

 

[CobraDave]

From what I've heard and seen it's been a while but not to sure. The real estate there really died in 08 and has been slow to recover. We are on a deeded lot on the road running parallel to Vista del ago.

How is the crime over there? Do you know what the annual launch pass goes for? And do they give you a card or sticker of some sort? How long have you lived there and things you like dislike?

 

[Crazy boat wife]

Power is SCE we have direct TV . But the water isn't cheap. We aren't in a "trailer park community " so the state says we have to have fire sprinklers so our water bill is really high even before use. In the deeded lot "park" by the post office, I believe there bill is 60 to 80 for service.

 

[Crazy boat wife]

The sheriff hangs out right by Vista del ago a lot.

 

[RiverDave]

From what I've heard and seen it's been a while but not to sure. The real estate there really died in 08 and has been slow to recover. We are on a deeded lot on the road running parallel to Vista del ago.

I was looking into it because they are building some new bad ass casino over there.. Thinking the values might go up.

 

[AzGeo]

when they feel like it, they fuck with you in any way they like .

The Tribe was blocking the road at one time, and that road was in California and maintained by the state .

There was another project there, years ago . It was north of the campgrounds and on DEEDED LAND . BUT, the land owners had to drive THRU Tribal land and it never happened .

LOOK, there are a lot of very smart people here and all over this planet . IF the LAND DEALS are so great in that particular place, why has it not been developed by someone in the past 60 years ?

I'm ready to make some money, but I looked into that side of the lake years ago .

I'll buy dinner, drinks, slots/chips, and a boat ride home, but like thousands before me, I see no solid investment .

BUY through a realtor on the Arizona side of the lake, and know that you did not piss your money and efforts into the wind .......

 

[CobraDave]

I was looking into it because they are building some new bad ass casino over there.. Thinking the values might go up.

I saw them dredging the new Marina this morning. I would imagine those plans are going through.

 

[Crazy boat wife]

Launch ramp pass is 200 a year for the first boat. I can't remember the 2nd boat cost. Or 20 a day launch fee and a slip is around 20 a day depending on size.
There was a small jump in the market when the casino ground breaking happened.

 

[RiverDave]

when they feel like it, they fuck with you in any way they like .

The Tribe was blocking the road at one time, and that road was in California and maintained by the state .

There was another project there, years ago . It was north of the campgrounds and on DEEDED LAND . BUT, the land owners had to drive THRU Tribal land and it never happened .

LOOK, there are a lot of very smart people here and all over this planet . IF the LAND DEALS are so great in that particular place, why has it not been developed by someone in the past 60 years ?

I'm ready to make some money, but I looked into that side of the lake years ago .

I'll buy dinner, drinks, slots/chips, and a boat ride home, but like thousands before me, I see no solid investment .

BUY through a realtor on the Arizona side of the lake, and know that you did not piss your money and efforts into the wind .......

If it was all that I'd own several lots in there..

That being said it isn't all doom and gloom like you are saying. It is deeded which is good, and the promise of a new resort / casino there may or may not be possibility.. If I had more $$ I'd buy one or two on spec and do it up.. I have to be more careful with what I got though so it's a pass for me. As a vacation spot though I don't think you can get hurt in it and might even make a few $$'s

 

[That Guy]

Not to be confused with Vista Del Lago Estates on the Arizona side near Windsor. Bugs the crap out of me that they chose the same name for the development so close to ours....:grumble::grumble:

 

[Crazy boat wife]

It took me about an hour and a half to drive the boat around to advantage in havasu. something like 68 miles but if you get stuck behind a semi on ca 95 it can take a while. I believe it was something like 68miles to the havasu Walmart and 69 to the parker one. There are couple of mechanics there but pm us before using 1 of them.

 

[CobraDave]

Launch ramp pass is 200 a year for the first boat. I can't remember the 2nd boat cost. Or 20 a day launch fee and a slip is around 20 a day depending on size.
There was a small jump in the market when the casino ground breaking happened.

Do they mark the trailer? If I had two boats I couldn't just use the pass for the second?

 

[CobraDave]

If it was all that I'd own several lots in there..

That being said it isn't all doom and gloom like you are saying. It is deeded which is good, and the promise of a new resort / casino there may or may not be possibility.. If I had more $$ I'd buy one or two on spec and do it up.. I have to be more careful with what I got though so it's a pass for me. As a vacation spot though I don't think you can get hurt in it and might even make a few $$'s

I agree. It's not like they are running around with pitch forks. It's not in their best interest either to run the people out. There is risk though. I get it. This would be a property we keep in the family a long time hopefully. Not looking to make money in the deal.
You just can't get the same amenities with this price point on the other side right now.

 

[Crazy boat wife]

They put sticker on the boat.

 

[The Door Hanger]

I'm looking to find some insider information on this community. This spot is near Havasu Landing and are full deeded lots. You pick your lot, then pick your Mobil home or whatever they call it these days. No attachment to the Indians besides providing water utilities and Launch Ramp.

We stayed there over the weekend and the homes were really nice. The views of the lake are great. I became a fan of running the golf cart to the lake and fishing. Just seems like more of a lake house feel. They run about 200k and up. Very customizable. The pull through garage house in the pics below was 249k.

No space rent, just an HOA fee of about 160 a month. They have a clubhouse, pool, bbq, etc. Anyone have a spot here? It seems pretty empty. Any negatives? View attachment 485382 View attachment 485383 View attachment 485384 View attachment 485386 View attachment 485387 View attachment 485388 View attachment 485389

I don't have a spot over there but over the past couple of months I've been working up there. I've put garage doors in on four different homes there. The house that you took a pic of with the pull through garage I did last month. I talked to the contractor and he said the plans say that over 320 homes will fit in the complex. The lots seem to be good size and the houses seem to fly up. It doesn't take very long start to finish. If you want some more specifics call this lady, Pam Craddock 760-267-1980. She knows that place like the back of her hand.

 

[CobraDave]

WE have had our home at VDL for 10 years.Enjoyed every day of it.We live here full time.Whatever landlease problems home owners have with the tribe has nothing to do with the private property @ Havasu Landing.Cobra,if you get serious & want to talk let me know.
David

Great info thank you. One question, do you know if the manufacturer makes the garages or are they built separately? Cavco is the company they use for homes.

 

[CobraDave]

I also wonder why they have not been able to sell them all by now. How long have they been trying?

 

[RVR SWPR]

PM sent Dave. Also nice job on the garage doors Hanger:thumbsup

 

[The Door Hanger]

PM sent Dave. Also nice job on the garage doors Hanger:thumbsup

Thanks. I'm heading up on Monday to put the door in on the house just north of the pull through. Hopefully its not hot.:grumble:

 

[CobraDave]

Well thanks for the responses thus far. I have some thinking to do. Im leaning toward it to be honest. I'm probably about a year out. Hopefully my wife gets this promotion!

 

[RVR SWPR]

Well thanks for the responses thus far. I have some thinking to do. Im leaning toward it to be honest. I'm probably about a year out. Hopefully my wife gets this promotion!

Keep Terry F. phone # Cobra,when u ready he is the contact and owner of the lots.The 300 + build out is actually a 3 phase developement.Where you stayed this week is phase 1. The infra struc is in for 2 & 3 to the west,but years away.Where i think you stayed,the owners are as good as it gets.Good friends.Take your time,it is a major family decision.:thumbsup
David

 

[cb5505]

Hey Cobra Dave, have you done any more research into this place? I have been looking at it since i was over at havasu landing about two weeks ago. Just wondering if you got any more info either good or bad. 50k for a lot and 80k for a new home doesn't sound bad to me. also a half a mile to a launch ramp sounds good to me

 

[RiverDave]

Hey Cobra Dave, have you done any more research into this place? I have been looking at it since i was over at havasu landing about two weeks ago. Just wondering if you got any more info either good or bad. 50k for a lot and 80k for a new home doesn't sound bad to me. also a half a mile to a launch ramp sounds good to me

Literally nothing has changed since these old posts.. The casino is out for bid now, and looks like it's getting built! I don't know why this isn't a good investment.. But so far they haven't moved five bucks in years..

I thought it was the next thing, but so far??

 

[CobraDave]

Hey Cobra Dave, have you done any more research into this place? I have been looking at it since i was over at havasu landing about two weeks ago. Just wondering if you got any more info either good or bad. 50k for a lot and 80k for a new home doesn't sound bad to me. also a half a mile to a launch ramp sounds good to me

I have thought about it just about the whole drive back from Havasu every time. I think about it the whole trip and look around to see where I would like to stay. When I rented a place over there I looked around and asked myself what if the development stopped and no more people bought? It would still be an awesome place. I like the idea of everything being brand new, actually having a lake view, being a 5 min golf cart ride to the water, all for roughly 200k. I'm not in the right place financially yet but I hope to be in the next two years. I wonder if I could reserve a lot in the mean time.

I think it's my number one pick so far. I go there for a change, a different way of living. The shorter list of amenities on that side of the lake doesn't bother me, besides the boat service issue.

 

[Bobby V]

Literally nothing has changed since these old posts.. The casino is out for bid now, and looks like it's getting built! I don't know why this isn't a good investment.. But so far they haven't moved five bucks in years..

I thought it was the next thing, but so far??

Yes the casino is out to bid. I got a invite to bid the fire sprinklers. I turned it down.

 

[RiverDave]

Yes the casino is out to bid. I got a invite to bid the fire sprinklers. I turned it down.

Cash up front maybe.. Lol but other than that I wouldn't do it either.. Lol.

 

[alexJ]

I can chime in my 2 cents here as needed as well, just read through the whole thing, I'll try to hit the main points, but if I miss anything ask away or feel free to PM me. Had a spot there about 8 years now, not VDL, but deeded, you look right at our place when you walk out the door of the sail inn.

As other inmates have mentioned, think the annual unlimited launch pass is $200, its a sticker on your boat like a AZ/CF, never bothered trying to mess with it, but it is per single boat, gate guys are pretty mellow there but they could check it if they wanted to and there's a chance the indians might bar you for life (just ask the relator (who we liked) mentioned above). Also frustrating were the fees for lake lice... we had 2 on a single trailer... didn't charge us one launch for the trailer, but $40 for the 2 skis... there's only one launch on our side, indian controlled, they can do whatever they want. We didn't use them enough and sold them, annuals for 3 vessels would have been ridiculous anyways.
I'd stay out of the tribal properties, big weekends the area is fun (or rowdy) depending on how you look at it, and it super nice to run golf carts everywhere and not worry about driving, BUT as others have said the tribe does have a tendency to raise rents to ridiculous levels once one of their members needs a new place, true story- 2 of my neighbors who used to have a place right by the water moved back up by me... liked the landing, loved being so close to the water, but couldn't afford or deal with the indian rate hikes. Moved to deeded land and much happier.
The drive around is a pain, right now I am dealing with it having some work done on the boat, and of course something came up so boat wasn't finished on time, not a big deal if you live right up the hill, or they werent closed on sundays, but when you are looking at over 2 hours round trip it is a huge bummer.
Indians, even off their land control the water rights, I think even if we don't use a drop there is a ~$75 monthly fee. Power is edison. We also use directTv.
The place is great if you're into dirt stuff, usually the biggest weekend of the year out there is thanksgiving surprisingly, but it makes sense as plenty of people on our side can hit the desert without even touching a public street from their homes, plus the snowbirds.
Being quite is great and terrible at the same time, I love driving past windsor at night and arriving to our side to see one boat in the harbor. 4th of july after the fireworks we were back on the trailer in 15 min, in the garage in 20.
Careful on that golf cart. Probably my biggest complaint about our side these days, especially after experiencing the golden years. Happened 2-3 years ago, place used to be full golf cart community, had one cop that knew everyone in the town locals and even vacationers, great cop, great person, mostly made sure everyone was being safe, super friendly unless you went out of your way to be a jerk, lives up north now, but still comes and visits occasionally. She left and 2 new ones came in (one just retired, don't know the new ones that well yet), I actually really like both of them as well, little stricter- definitely don't pull out of the launch ramp with anyone in the boat or you're sure to get pulled over, but they'll warn you the first time- unless youre being an ass and deserve it. The real problem is an ambitious CHP officer. One guy kind of destroyed the whole community in a way, as sad and as extreme as that sounds. This guy started driving down the 17 mile road off the highway into our little town, sat outside the bar and got multiple DUI's a night. Didn't stop there, got a grandma getting her groceries whose wheel touched the public street (she took that one to court and won), trucker lost his license driving his golf cart one block from his house to the sail- should have walked I guess, anyways that CHP was relentless, and even tho the locals now know, plenty of people that are out there their first time or who haven't been in years guarantee his drive off the highway is worth it. It got so bad locals have installed red warning lights on their homes and businesses, you might have seen them go off while you were there- that they all turn on when they see him pull into town. Problem is the one bar that used to be so packed and so much fun is usually closed by 10:30 now. It's small out there, everyone used to golf cart socially from one house grab a beer say hi to so and so, grab them take the cart over to the next guys place to see what he was tinkering on in the garage, and then eventually roll down to the bar to see what the rest of the town is doing. That doesn't happen anymore, I feel like everyone is less social, they'd rather stay home in their AC than walking in the heat or risk getting spotted on their golf cart with or without drinking.
Views are great. And being that close to the lake is so awesome, we take the dog down to the water all the time (in the golf cart), or even just go jump in to cool off in the middle of projects even if it's just 5 minutes.
Drive there isn't too bad, really I used to think it was a lot shorter not having to go all the way through parker from SD but really its not that much shorter- maybe 10 min.
Having a place on the other side does allow some of my friends from SD some tax advantages and cheaper registration, something else we miss out on.
New grocery store is a huge improvement from what used to be available, especially holiday weekends- that could be cleaned out of stuff by friday some years, little pricey but not terrible being the only thing around.
Gas also WAY more than AZ side, also a concern were the super old underground tanks at the only (indian) gas station, I know some people were having problems with the gas. New tanks were put in the last 2 years? (I think) and things seem to be better now.
I have friends on the other side, there is the ferry that is pretty dependable, and uber has finally gotten to havasu, so if you want to go across for like a BBQ its possible, you jsut have to work around the boat's schedule (it leaves on the hour on the AZ side). Not ideal especially in the heat, but it is possible.
That was quite an essay, covers everything i can think of for now. I am happy there, I there there are a lot of advantages and disadvantages when compared to the other side- I think you just need to prioritize what things you're looking for. Like I said before, ask or PM me if you have other questions.

 

[cb5505]

I think I might make a move on it. I am going to be out there in a week or two and check prices and how much cost it is for house installed and the different units. I for sure would get a garage unit. Thank you guys for all the advice

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

The whole idea about buying over there, would be to buy in a free state like AZ. The savings for taxes, fees, ability to buy and store guns, etc, etc, etc. I'm really getting close to pulling the trigger on getting out of Komifornia, or at least have a place to store my guns which are no longer allowed here.

 

[cb5505]

That is a great point. I hate California but I have a long road before I retire in Arizona. This place would just be a vacation home and eventually I'll sell it in 100 years when I retire.

 

[Bobby V]

That is a great point. I hate California but I have a long road before I retire in Arizona. This place would just be a vacation home and eventually I'll sell it in 100 years when I retire.

If you are buying a vacation home on a lake for boating. I wouldn't be worrying about where to store your guns. My buddy has a place on the CA side above Needles with a wide variety of guns. The whole neighborhood takes their off road vehicles across river road and shoots all day long. Nobody ever bothers them.

Edit...Just got off the phone with my buddy who has a place in VDL. He loves it there and said guns aren't a problem. But they have cracked down on riding in your golf cart with a open beer.

 

[cb5505]

If you are buying a vacation home on a lake for boating. I wouldn't be worrying about where to store your guns. My buddy has a place on the CA side above Needles with a wide variety of guns. The whole neighborhood takes their off road vehicles across river road and shoots all day long. Nobody ever bothers them.

Edit...Just got off the phone with my buddy who has a place in VDL. He loves it there and said guns aren't a problem. But they have cracked down on riding in your golf cart with a open beer.

I'll just shotgun my beer before I drive the golf cart

 

[Ziggy]

It seems like its busier at the Landing than before. I can sit in my backyard and watch a consistent stream of cars driving down the hill on weekend nights, holiday weekends nights I will almost always be able to see at least one car. I just sit there and wonder where they all go, doesn't look that big a community.