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FROGMAN524

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It was same way up in Paradise when I recently visited. Property values plummeted due to insurance costs. My Cousin thought about buying there until he looked into it. He ended up buying in Chico for 100k more than the house would of been pre fire. As majority took the insurance money and moved into neighboring cities.

There are tons of lots for sale for cheap. Lots of mobile homes on the lots that burned. Probably have to pay cash on the mobile and go with no insurance for it to make sense to live there.
 

WildHorses24

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Hold onto your hat, you ain't seen nuthin yet...!

It's the first time in the states history they approved an emergency rate increase, that tells you A LOT about the financial state of companies in CA. I've said it over and over on these threads, CA's Fire rates have been "artificially" low for 20+ years held down by the Ins Commissioner. We are #3 in the nation on total CAT losses sustained but only #24 on collected premium (this is industry wide). Pile on COVID inflation, bad cycles in the market and on going "fire seasons" making CA a ticking time bomb. CA DOI doesn't allow companies to use future modeling to build reserves for major events like we saw in January into current rate. Think time value of money, small 5-7% increases 20 yrs ago would have put all majors companies in a positive position to handle major CAT losses. Decades of bad legislation and "Profit Control" brought us to a breaking point in 2023, Ins companies started going BK and leaving the state, most just stopped writing new business. That's only the story on the retail side, about 8-9 years ago reinsurance companies started tripling their premiums or leaving CA altogether leaving major insurance companies with a HUGE expense (talking 100's of Millions annually) and once again the DOI told ins companies those premiums couldn't be factored into rates for the consumer. All this on top of utility companies only paying (or insured for) a small % (<10%) of the fires they've started, making ins companies eat the losses. The sad part is even with these huge rate increases coming down the line, it may still be "too little, too late"....
 

Brokeboatin221

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Any excuse to nickel and dime us. They should have been adjusting over time per the market and conditions present but nope now it’s just one big bend over and pay up.
 

jet496

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I don't view insurance like in the past, A claim works against you, even a small one. They will either drop you entirely or increase your rates. The result.......you've been trained to just pay for the small stuff with no claim submission. I've increased all the deductibles as high as allowed, 25k for homeowners, auto 5k. In the event of a big problem, I can negotiate to get the high deducible back from subs. I believe this also sends a message to the insurance company you're only interested in insuring a catastrophic event. Distrust..................YUP
After having 8 vehicles broken into over a 1.5 year period (we have a fleet of 20), we were just eating the costs anyway & not reporting because we would pay more in the long run by claiming. Hell, we quit calling the cops because that's just time we were paying for the employees to deal with something the cops won't do anything about anyway (not dogging them, it is what it is).
 

zhandfull

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Have State Farm and just renewed in May. It was about the same as last year. Hearing they have a 20+% rate increase request in with the state. Not sure if that would be a supplemental bill or added on next years premium.
 
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