Tool review monday

[H20 Toie]

Sometime things just work out.
Not something that i really needed ( i thought) but neighbor was selling a cherry picker for to good of a price, so had to get it, well couple mods later and yeah i spent more on the wheels and air/hydraulic jack than the silly thing cost,
but now that i can roll it around and even thou i am not pulling motors but its amazing how handy these things are.

Now that i said that ill probably never use it again

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

You wanna go down a Rabbit Hole that will eat up hours?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=torque+test+channel

He test EVERY brand of wrench, sockets, ratchets, impacts screwdrivers, etc.

When I bought all new tools for my Havasu house, I was gonna throw down for all new Snap On. The ICON brand wrenches and sockets tested at or above the Snap On stuff, IIRC, the ratchets were even higher. I watched this guy to decide.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Just be careful if those are pneumatic tires, and not rubber ones. The last thing you want is the thing leaning on a low tire

 

[H20 Toie]

Just be careful if those are pneumatic tires, and not rubber ones. The last thing you want is the thing leaning on a low tire

That will be the what not to do thread

 

[monkeyswrench]

That will be the what not to do thread

I did it with a dolly, thought the tires were fine. When I tipped it back, the drum rolled off the low side. Just a pony keg of oil, but it hurt like hell trying to stop it from going over

 

[wzuber]

You wanna go down a Rabbit Hole that will eat up hours?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=torque+test+channel

He test EVERY brand of wrench, sockets, ratchets, impacts screwdrivers, etc.

When I bought all new tools for my Havasu house, I was gonna throw down for all new Snap On. The ICON brand wrenches and sockets tested at or above the Snap On stuff, IIRC, the ratchets were even higher. I watched this guy to decide.

Looks like a good site.
Is there an extensive torque wrench comparison in that list somewhere? How about micrometer, snap gages and the like?does he do high quality, machist measuring tools?

 

[lbhsbz]

Just understand that the capacity is limited to about 400lbs now, and make sure to check the air in the tires before you lift ANYTHING. Chinese pneumatic tires like these hold air for about 2 weeks in my experience

 

[wzuber]

Just understand that the capacity is limited to about 400lbs now, and make sure to check the air in the tires before you lift ANYTHING. Chinese pneumatic tires like these hold air for about 2 weeks in my experience

Solid steel wheels would've been a much better choice for support and capacity.

 

[lakemadness]

Looks like a down grade? Maybe rolls around better, but that's gonna be it I'd say...

 

[H20 Toie]

Just understand that the capacity is limited to about 400lbs now, and make sure to check the air in the tires before you lift ANYTHING. Chinese pneumatic tires like these hold air for about 2 weeks in my experience

No plans on lifting even that much
If it’s more than that I’ll just bolt the steel wheels back on it
But this way I can roll it around in the dirt
And I have couple of the Milwaukee air compressors so we shall see how they do
I debated on the solid rubber wheels

Also realize I’m starting with a harbor freight thing in the first place so not something you want to push anywhere near its limit

 

[monkeyswrench]

Solid steel wheels would've been a much better choice for support and capacity.

I had one around here, an old Craftsman from Sears. All 4 legs slide out. The steel wheels on one side, non steer pneumatic on the front welded at 90s, the rear steers opposite of the steels. Doing the front at 90 kept the lower profile. Pneumatic tires were for gravel, as I have a lot of that. I've also used steel channel like rails. Lay them on dirt from under the car or truck, pull motor out and back tailgate under.

 

[Wizard29]

I have a cherry picker at the river house and have used for everything but lifting an engine.

 

[DWC]

You wanna go down a Rabbit Hole that will eat up hours?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=torque+test+channel

He test EVERY brand of wrench, sockets, ratchets, impacts screwdrivers, etc.

When I bought all new tools for my Havasu house, I was gonna throw down for all new Snap On. The ICON brand wrenches and sockets tested at or above the Snap On stuff, IIRC, the ratchets were even higher. I watched this guy to decide.

They’ve done a great job with that lineup. Quality stuff that looks really good. I’ve seen quite a bit of lab tests on just about every tool. It’s all about the right spec and quality control. There are brands out there that don’t live up to expectations.

 

[lbhsbz]

You wanna go down a Rabbit Hole that will eat up hours?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=torque+test+channel

He test EVERY brand of wrench, sockets, ratchets, impacts screwdrivers, etc.

When I bought all new tools for my Havasu house, I was gonna throw down for all new Snap On. The ICON brand wrenches and sockets tested at or above the Snap On stuff, IIRC, the ratchets were even higher. I watched this guy to decide.

I have lots of experience with everything from Snap-On to bottom of the barrel junk, and I've found that if you don't abuse them....most work just fine.

1/4" drive stuff ain't gonna break, no matter who made it....but it is tiny and easy to lose, so I mostly now buy Pittsburg or whatever is cheap on Amazon for my go bags that I keep in cars/boats. I've never broken anything 1/4 drive, but I lose them constantly. Unless you're working within 10 feet of your toolbox all the time and using things daily, there is no point IMO of buying high dollar tools in many cases....coming from a guy who probably has $60K worth of Snap On shit.

For non pro use, if you don't abuse them...the cheaper stuff works just fine and you don't care if it gets rusty or lost. Even for pro use.....I've still got the same set of Harbor Freight impact sockets I started with at the dealer when I was 19. I've replaced the 21mm with a Mac because it eventually gave up, but that was the lug socket that was beat on every day for years....the whole set was $20 almost 30 years ago lol.

Some things function better than others....but most of the basic handtools....cheap is fine and will serve you just as well as the mid grade or higher end stuff if you don't abuse it.

 

[Badchoices03]

I have lots of experience with everything from Snap-On to bottom of the barrel junk, and I've found that if you don't abuse them....most work just fine.

1/4" drive stuff ain't gonna break, no matter who made it....but it is tiny and easy to lose, so I mostly now buy Pittsburg or whatever is cheap on Amazon for my go bags that I keep in cars/boats. I've never broken anything 1/4 drive, but I lose them constantly. Unless you're working within 10 feet of your toolbox all the time and using things daily, there is no point IMO of buying high dollar tools in many cases....coming from a guy who probably has $60K worth of Snap On shit.

For non pro use, if you don't abuse them...the cheaper stuff works just fine and you don't care if it gets rusty or lost. Even for pro use.....I've still got the same set of Harbor Freight impact sockets I started with at the dealer when I was 19. I've replaced the 21mm with a Mac because it eventually gave up, but that was the lug socket that was beat on every day for years....the whole set was $20 almost 30 years ago lol.

Some things function better than others....but most of the basic handtools....cheap is fine and will serve you just as well as the mid grade or higher end stuff if you don't abuse it.

Come on dude, are you new here....this is RDP.....Snap On is the only answer, regardless if you only work on shit once a year or not....lol

 

[lbhsbz]

Come on dude, are you new here....this is RDP.....Snap On is the only answer, regardless if you only work on shit once a year or not....lol

Yeah.

I’ve seriously broken more snap on shit than Chinese shit lol.

I have a broken 8mm snap on socket here right now. How the fuck does one of those break?

 

[wishiknew]

Yeah.

I’ve seriously broken more snap on shit than Chinese shit lol.

I have a broken 8mm snap on socket here right now. How the fuck does one of those break?

By using a adapter and a 1/2 ratchet

 

[monkeyswrench]

I have lots of experience with everything from Snap-On to bottom of the barrel junk, and I've found that if you don't abuse them....most work just fine.

1/4" drive stuff ain't gonna break, no matter who made it....but it is tiny and easy to lose, so I mostly now buy Pittsburg or whatever is cheap on Amazon for my go bags that I keep in cars/boats. I've never broken anything 1/4 drive, but I lose them constantly. Unless you're working within 10 feet of your toolbox all the time and using things daily, there is no point IMO of buying high dollar tools in many cases....coming from a guy who probably has $60K worth of Snap On shit.

For non pro use, if you don't abuse them...the cheaper stuff works just fine and you don't care if it gets rusty or lost. Even for pro use.....I've still got the same set of Harbor Freight impact sockets I started with at the dealer when I was 19. I've replaced the 21mm with a Mac because it eventually gave up, but that was the lug socket that was beat on every day for years....the whole set was $20 almost 30 years ago lol.

Some things function better than others....but most of the basic handtools....cheap is fine and will serve you just as well as the mid grade or higher end stuff if you don't abuse it.

The Harbor Freight ½ impacts seem to be pretty stout. 48" ¾ breaker bar to a SnapOn reducer works like a fuse...I've replaced the shank a couple times. They seem to be pretty good on the drive side too. Impact doesn't waller them out any worse than others.
I kind of hope they'll make spindle nut socket sets for big stuff. Buy as I need them, but an OTC set is around 1100$ or so.

 

[Badchoices03]

Sometime things just work out.
Not something that i really needed ( i thought) but neighbor was selling a cherry picker for to good of a price, so had to get it, well couple mods later and yeah i spent more on the wheels and air/hydraulic jack than the silly thing cost,
but now that i can roll it around and even thou i am not pulling motors but its amazing how handy these things are.

Now that i said that ill probably never use it again
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For someone that always describes themselves as broke....I wish I was your kind of broke and able to buy stuff I don't need, then spend more money upgrading it, for no reason other then just because....LOL....

 

[Cray Paper]

Yeah.

I’ve seriously broken more snap on shit than Chinese shit lol.

I have a broken 8mm snap on socket here right now. How the fuck does one of those break?

3/8 or 1/2 cordless impact driver on the muscle end of said socket?

 

[lbhsbz]

3/8 or 1/2 cordless impact driver on the muscle end of said socket?

An 8mm head goes on a M5 fastener....which is not much bigger than #2 pencil lead...or in this particular case, an M7 bleeder screw with a 2mm hole down the middle of it. How the socket broke before the bleeder, I have no idea. I was using a 4 inch long ratchet lol...and it took almost zero effort. It was probably the first time I've used this socket in 20 years, only because I wanted one now and all my other 8mm sockets were.....somewhere else in the pile lol.

 

[lbhsbz]

For someone that always describes themselves as broke....I wish I was your kind of broke and able to buy stuff I don't need, then spend more money upgrading it, for no reason other then just because....LOL....

It's a gift. I have it too.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

An 8mm head goes on a M5 fastener....which is not much bigger than #2 pencil lead...or in this particular case, an M7 bleeder screw with a 2mm hole down the middle of it. How the socket broke before the bleeder, I have no idea. I was using a 4 inch long ratchet lol...and it took almost zero effort. It was probably the first time I've used this socket in 20 years, only because I wanted one now and all my other 8mm sockets were.....somewhere else in the pile lol.

They have these inventions called "tool boxes" the idea is that's where "tools" are stored. If you put them back where they go, instead of a pile, you'd spend less time bitching and more time turning tools.

I have a big green one and a big red one.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

I have lots of experience with everything from Snap-On to bottom of the barrel junk, and I've found that if you don't abuse them....most work just fine.

1/4" drive stuff ain't gonna break, no matter who made it....but it is tiny and easy to lose, so I mostly now buy Pittsburg or whatever is cheap on Amazon for my go bags that I keep in cars/boats. I've never broken anything 1/4 drive, but I lose them constantly. Unless you're working within 10 feet of your toolbox all the time and using things daily, there is no point IMO of buying high dollar tools in many cases....coming from a guy who probably has $60K worth of Snap On shit.

For non pro use, if you don't abuse them...the cheaper stuff works just fine and you don't care if it gets rusty or lost. Even for pro use.....I've still got the same set of Harbor Freight impact sockets I started with at the dealer when I was 19. I've replaced the 21mm with a Mac because it eventually gave up, but that was the lug socket that was beat on every day for years....the whole set was $20 almost 30 years ago lol.

Some things function better than others....but most of the basic handtools....cheap is fine and will serve you just as well as the mid grade or higher end stuff if you don't abuse it.

You're not wrong for the most part. What the differences are, ratchets that stay engaged in the correct direction, socket and ratchet engagement that works with greasy hands. The junk sometimes requires a screwdriver to pry the shit off. Screwdriver that saty in the fastener. There are differences, but not to cover the stupid delta between Snap On and lesser brands .

Home Depot house brands are terrible for their ratchets. they never stay engaged. (Kolbalt is the worst)

 

[lbhsbz]

They have these inventions called "tool boxes" the idea is that's where "tools" are stored. If you put them back where they go, instead of a pile, you'd spend less time bitching and more time turning tools.

I have a big green one and a big red one.

I have….8 I think in my home shop, and one at the river.

When I have 100 calipers to tear down, I don’t put everything away after each one is complete….then I might forget while 10 go in the parts washer and then I’m babysitting the blaster full of them…and answering the phone and emails and packing orders and and and. This is far from a utopia work shop around here lol. It’s more like a big fucking mess.

I actually took last weekend and tried to clean up….but it was hard to put shit back in my big Snap On box because all the drawer sliders are shot….again.

called this morning and I have 15 sets of new slides coming, but I need a place to unload the drawers and put them while I’m changing the slides, and the workbench is full lol. We’ll set up yet another folding table I guess.

I really need to have a fire.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I have multiple bin boxes, marked SnapOn, MAC, Matco and now HF. Broken stuff gets placed in the matching box. When triplicates get down to singles, a return run to HF is scheduled, and calls are made to the truck guys. I meet up with them at whatever shop works out, and make exchanges. It was nice when I worked at a place they showed up every week, but much cheaper now...no impulse buys

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

I have….8 I think in my home shop, and one at the river.

When I have 100 calipers to tear down, I don’t put everything away after each one is complete….then I might forget while 10 go in the parts washer and then I’m babysitting the blaster full of them…and answering the phone and emails and packing orders and and and. This is far from a utopia work shop around here lol. It’s more like a big fucking mess.

I actually took last weekend and tried to clean up….but it was hard to put shit back in my big Snap On box because all the drawer sliders are shot….again.

called this morning and I have 15 sets of new slides coming, but I need a place to unload the drawers and put them while I’m changing the slides, and the workbench is full lol. We’ll set up yet another folding table I guess.

I really need to have a fire.

Just pour all the drawers out in one big pile.

 

[lbhsbz]

You're not wrong for the most part. What the differences are, ratchets that stay engaged in the correct direction, socket and ratchet engagement that works with greasy hands. The junk sometimes requires a screwdriver to pry the shit off. Screwdriver that saty in the fastener. There are differences, but not to cover the stupid delta between Snap On and lesser brands .

Home Depot house brands are terrible for their ratchets. they never stay engaged. (Kolbalt is the worst)

The fact remains, I’ve fixed plenty of cars/boats in the pits (and in a hurry) and on the side of the road with crap tools than I have with the good stuff…and they all got the job done.

If you’re not in position where time is money…and sometimes even if you are, the cheap stuff does fine.

Even at home, I work on the boat using the boat tool box…little 2 drawer craftsman carry around thing full of rusty mixed whatever junk that I pick up at garage sales. I want to make sure it has everything I need to do anything on the boat elsewhere.

Same when I had my crawler, same with my SxS.

ICON sockets are great in my eyes because I hate deep broach sockets. ICON is the only non truck brand I’ve found that makes shallow broach sockets. I love ‘em. Not because they’re ICON, but because they are mid depth and shallow broach, I probably have 8 sets.

 

[lbhsbz]

Just pour all the drawers out in one big pile.

I don’t even have room on the floor lol

 

[Outdrive1]

Are deep well Icon sockets shouldered? It’s one of my favorite things about a snap on socket.


Just buy a forklift, fuck the cherry picker. I love my lift.