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I have a friend that has 50+ years in the auto refinishing industry. He has owned his own body shop and teaches at a couple local junior colleges. He has been telling me for 18+months that he will paint my track car, he just has to schedule the time at the facility on a weekend (retired people). Well yesterday it finally happened.

I have never done any “real” paint and body work on a car so in all it was a cool learning experience and a 20 hour day.

I knew we only had a day to do the job, so last year I had a professional shop tackle a few larger problems the car had. I used Simon Auto Body in OC.
The shop repaired and smoothed out the aluminum hood, it was a bit of a mess. They also fixed the one rust spot on the car, filled in a couple emblem holes and filled in some trim holes on the fiberglass fenders. They just left their work in primer as I was going to take care of the paint.

This is where we started:
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So in prep for the actual paint work I stripped the car of all the parts and trim I could. I pulled all the lights, door handles, side mirrors, body moulding and sunroof delete from the car. I did all of that stuff last week.

Yesterday morning before loading the car on the trailer.
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So we get there and meet my friend at the facility. We talked and he expected to be home by dinner. We had agreed that since the larger issues with the body were taken care of, we would clean the car, scuff it up and shoot the paint. We’d all be home by dinner time...

We started disassembling the car a bit to make it easier to prep.

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“Well since we are here why don’t we just take care of all the small dents...” there were small dents on the doors, quarters, and roof.

We began pounding out what dents we could get to from the inside to use the smallest amount of body filler possible. Then filing down the high spots, sanding and prepping for the thin coat of filler.

Body filler applied on doors, roof and quarter panels.
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Filler sanded, car prepped for spraying localized primer over repairs

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Car masked and primer applied to localized repairs.

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Primer sanded, all parts and car being prepped to go into the booth for sealer and paint. At this point every part getting paint was scuffed up with a scuff pad, or DA with 400 grit sand paper.

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Finally into the booth for masking and final cleaning!

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Then the sealer can go on every thing to get paint. We put a couple drops of red in it as a joke and sent people pictures. The sealer takes about 15-20 mins to flash. The car actually looked OK in matte pink! We got back in the paint booth one final time to look for any imperfections and address them before the color got laid down. We didn’t find anything at all. The sealer went down great. Time for color!
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The paint I used is a single stage acrylic urethane. That means there is no clear coat, the color provides the shine. I used Summit Racing’s line of paints in you guessed it Hugger Orange. Single stage paint is a great option for this car, as it is easy to touch up, and this is by no means a show car.

Color getting laid down. It is about 11 PM at this time.

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Then in order to accelerate the paint drying so the car could be reassembled to go home, we turned the temp in the paint booth up to 140 degrees for about 45 mins. The heater on the booth was 1 million BTU!

After a cool down we got back into the booth to unmask the car, reassemble it for transport, and get the heck out of there!
We did a pretty good just masking, just a couple of light spots of overspray that were easily fixed.

Got the car assembled and loaded on the trailer. It was a little passed 2AM when I got in the house. A marathon day for sure.
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And pulled the car out today to let us dry a bit more in the sun. I still need to put all the lights and painted trim back on it, refit the fenders and doors, and repaint a few pieces in black that need a little restoration.
All in all it was worth spending the several extra hours making the body near perfect and the results really exceeded my expectations. I would have been happy with the car just one color again, but it looks great! I have even more appreciation for the work that goes into a quality OE repair job or custom bodywork now.

In a month or 2 when the paint really hardens up I will probably color sand a buff it out for an even better result.

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I’ll post more pictures as I get the car reassembled.
 
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Turned out nice..Makes the hard work worth it
 

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Nice work and write-up! Good luck on the track - keep the shiny side up :D
 

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Nice job. I always enjoyed the paint process. In high school I must have painted 20 cars in my senior year.
 

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Thanks for the report. Neat seeing this kind of work.
 

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I have a friend that has 50+ years in the auto refinishing industry. He has owned his own body shop and teaches at a couple local junior colleges. He has been telling me for 18+months that he will paint my track car, he just has to schedule the time at the facility on a weekend (retired people). Well yesterday it finally happened.

I have never done any “real” paint and body work on a car so in all it was a cool learning experience and a 20 hour day.

I knew we only had a day to do the job, so last year I had a professional shop tackle a few larger problems the car had. I used Simon Auto Body in OC.
The shop repaired and smoothed out the aluminum hood, it was a bit of a mess. They also fixed thenone rust spot on the car, filled in a couple emblem holes and filled in some trim holes on the fiberglass fenders. They just left their work in primer as I was going to take care of the paint.

This is where we started:
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So in prep for the actual paint work I stripped the car of all the parts and trim I could. I pulled all the lights, door handles, side mirrors, body moulding and sunroof delete from the car. I did all of that stuff last week.

Yesterday morning before loading the car on the trailer.
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So we get there and meet my friend at the facility. We talked and he expected to be home by dinner. We had agreed that since the larger issues with the body were taken care of, we would clean the car, scuff it up and shoot the paint. We’d all be home by dinner time...

We started disassembling the car a bit to make it easier to prep.

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“Well since we are here why don’t we just take care of all the small dents...” there were small dents on the doors, quarters, and roof.

We began pounding out what dents we could get to from the inside to use the smallest amount of body filler possible. Then filing down the high spots, sanding and prepping for the thin coat of filler.

Body filler applied on doors, roof and quarter panels.
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Filler sanded, car prepped for spraying localized primer over repairs

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Car masked and primer applied to localized repairs.

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Primer sanded, all parts and car being prepped to go into the booth for sealer and paint. At this point every part getting paint was scuffed up with a scuff pad, or DA with 400 grit sand paper.

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Finally into the booth for masking and final cleaning!

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Then the sealer can go on every thing to get paint. We put a couple drops of red in it as a joke and sent people pictures. The sealer takes about 15-20 mins to flash. The car actually looked OK in matte pink! We got back in the paint booth one final time to look for any imperfections and address them before the color got laid down. We didn’t find anything at all. The sealer went down great. Time for color!
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The paint I used is a single stage acrylic urethane. That means there is no clear coat, the color provides the shine. I used Summit Racing’s line of paints in you guessed it Hugger Orange. Single stage paint is a great option for this car, as it is easy to touch up, and this is by no means a show car.

Color getting laid down. It is about 11 PM at this time.

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Then in order to accelerate the paint drying so the car could be reassembled to go home, we turned the temp in the paint booth up to 140 degrees for about 45 mins. The heater on the booth was 1 million BTU!

After a cool down we got back into the booth to unmask the car, reassemble it for transport, and get the heck out of there!
We did a pretty good just masking, just a couple of light spots of overspray that were easily fixed.

Got the car assembled and loaded on the trailer. It was a little passed 2AM when I got in the house. A marathon day for sure.
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And pulled the car out today to let us dry a bit more in the sun. I still need to put all the lights and painted trim back on it, refit the fenders and doors, and repaint a few pieces in black that need a little restoration.
All in all it was worth spending the several extra hours making the body near perfect and the results really exceeded my expectations. I would have been happy with the car just one color again, but it looks great! I have even more appreciation for the work that goes into a quality OE repair job or custom bodywork now.

In a month or 2 when the paint really hardens up I will probably color sand a buff it out for an even better result.

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I’ll post more pictures as I get the car reassembled.
finally 1 flippin color
 

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Awesome work. Color sanding sucks. I color sanded my boat years ago. Took about 4 months. No fingerprints for months.
 

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Simons Auto are good peeps. Did work on my truck. Used to be members here.
 

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A guy with 50 years experience and takes the time to give you a crash course in his craft is a very good friend and just a good man. :)
 

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Looks like Cerritos community college? Ive painted a few cars there, my best friends dad teaches there.
 

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A guy with 50 years experience and takes the time to give you a crash course in his craft is a very good friend and just a good man. :)

He is one of my best friend’s uncle.. almost my uncle :). I knew he hadn’t painted a full car in awhile but he paints small stuff all the time... car parts, bumpers, small projects, house doors, etc. So when we were done he said he was relieved and happy with the results. I asked him when was the last time he did a full car..... he replied “18 years ago.” LOL.

My friend said he was pretty nervous about painting the entire car a couple days before when they talked.

Watching him pound out dents was like watching a magic show.
 

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Small world, I live just up the street at Valleyveiw and La Palma Ave.
 

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nice, looks great. I have done a couple of cars. Not any more, paid for the last 2, and will pay for any future paint jobs. My fond memories of weeks of sanding paint and bondo are behind me. And then the weeks of cleaning the garage as that dust gets everywhere. And I am now able to afford much nicer paint jobs that I could ever do myself. I am really impressed you were able to do all that in one day.
 

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An update -

I’ll post some more pictures out of the garage tomorrow, but the car is all back together now. I had been working on refinishing some of the trim and fixing a few things as it went back together. It came out pretty nice.

I took it out for a drive last night and found a Hellcat to play with. Walked it with no problem :). I forgot how much fun this thing is to drive.


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Got the car out last week on the real tires. Took my dad out for a ride on the track. Got a couple small issues I need to fix, but car is working well. I have an all RX7 event to bring the car to next month at California Speedway.

Have a new transmission coming, Aero improvements, and another 50 Hp at the wheels to bolt on as well.

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I have an all RX7 event to bring the car to next month at California Speedway.

Have a new transmission coming, Aero improvements, and another 50 Hp at the wheels to bolt on as well.
7 Stock is awesome. You going to get to run with the 787? I had a couple friends who were on track with it, said the noise was mind bending..
 

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Nice new avatar LOF.
Are you doing ride alongs at California Speedway?
I could meet you there with my helmet and fire suit...:cool:
 

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Reminds me of a few great JBB posts back in the day:oops:

Thanks for sharing:) Just like painting anything in construction, the real work and finish results are in the prep
 

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7 Stock is awesome. You going to get to run with the 787? I had a couple friends who were on track with it, said the noise was mind bending..

Yea Sevenstock is a fun event. I was on track with all the Mazda Factory race cars one year, I believe 5 years ago. Yea the 787 sounds insane. It is really cool. The IMSA GTO car is still my favorite though.
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Nice new avatar LOF.
Are you doing ride alongs at California Speedway?
I could meet you there with my helmet and fire suit...:cool:

I need to check if they are allowing ride alongs but probably, yes. For the track day passengers they just require a helmet and signing your life away.
 

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Looks great. What size tires/rims front & back?

Thanks! 17x10.5 on 275/35/17s all around.

It is kind of an odd tire size, but the car works well with a 25 inch tire diameter. I’m running Maxxis tires now but they have not made another batch in that size in 5 years, so I’m waiting to see what happens.

I may need to go 285/30/18 to get the same 25” diameter 100 treadwear competition tires. but for the same cost I may just start running Hoosiers, as they make a 275/35/17 competition tire.

I may start doing the Optima Ultimate Street car events. If so that will push me to the 18s. For those events you need to run 200 treadwear tires.

The car’s biggest issue right now is aero. It is an old car and was not designed for large diameter modern wheels and tires. You park my car next to a new Corvette, my car is smaller, lighter and the roof is lower, but the body of the car is notably higher off the ground. Just adding the small black chin spoiler up front made a dramatic change to steering response above 100 MPH.
 

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Awesome man! BTW, are you going to color sand it?

My dad read books and books and was completely self taught. The amount of prep he would do was mind blowing. He always told me the spraying was the easy part. His stuff was Pebble Beach quality and painted all of his cars in his garage. He would do all his painting with wet floors to keep dust down. There are definitely more shitty body guys than good ones!

Keep up the good work.

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So I swapped in my new transmission last week with @Bpracing1127 ’s help.

The new T56 Magnum F I put in was basically a direct replacement, but it has a shorter 5th and 6th gear and much is more robust and shifts way smoother. This is basically like swapping a transmission out of a 90’s Camaro with the transmission out of a 2020 Camaro.

I needed a new transmission yoke and had to have the driveshaft shortened an inch because of the longer and larger trans yoke.




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Also I picked up a low lift transmission jack from Harbor Freight. This little guy really made it easy. A 1/2” drive raises and lowers it.. pretty cool.
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