Cobra Performance 260 Razor....

[Sbarry]

Does anyone have a walk-thru 260 Razor? I haven't seen one on Cobra's site, here, or anywhere for that matter. Looks like there's not really a clean place to start the cut with the arched dash layout. Any input? Thanks

 

[RCDave]

Check out shockwaves 25 tremor. It's available in a walk through configuration. We had a closed bow for many Years. It's a great boat

 

[dribble]

Google is your friend.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...EK1E#hl=en&q=cobra+26+razor&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

 

[Sbarry]

Believe me, I've been googling it for over a year, all boats on the link you attached are mid-cabin.... I think?

And yes, really like the Tremor as well. Between those two? Pretty torn really!

 

[Sbarry]

I even went down to Cobra a few weeks ago, talked to Hernando, and OF COURSE forgot to ask if they have done a walk-thru model. :thumbsdown

That's the only reason why I've taken it to the board. Thanks again for any info

 

[Rdubz]

I've got a Cobra 270 Razor. It's an open bow with a cuddy. I think most Cobras that are 26' and up are going to be that way. I've seen many of the 22' - 25' with a walk through. Let me know if you have any other questions as I can only speak from the experience I've had with mine. I must say that I Cobras are very well built! I slice right through the chop in Havasu and Parker especially on those busier weekends/days. They are very solid boats!

:thumbup:

 

[Sbarry]

I've got a Cobra 270 Razor. It's an open bow with a cuddy. I think most Cobras that are 26' and up are going to be that way. I've seen many of the 22' - 25' with a walk through. Let me know if you have any other questions as I can only speak from the experience I've had with mine. I must say that I Cobras are very well built! I slice right through the chop in Havasu and Parker especially on those busier weekends/days. They are very solid boats!

:thumbup:

Thanks Rdubz. The 270 is a beast. Cuddy is HUGE! great looking boats for sure. My brother just got a 230 and I am very impressed with Cobra as a whole. I've been on Ultras, Halletts, and a DCB through out the years, and I would put his Cobra up next to any of them as far as quality of workmanship goes. Noe its my turn to get something! Fingers crossed!

 

[RCDave]

Believe me, I've been googling it for over a year, all boats on the link you attached are mid-cabin.... I think?

And yes, really like the Tremor as well. Between those two? Pretty torn really!

Bob is an awesome guy. He will take great care of you. The tremor I had never had one problem. Used it a lot with trip to havasu, Mojave, mead, and a number of trips to Catalina. Solid boat rigged tight.

 

[Sbarry]

Bob is an awesome guy. He will take great care of you. The tremor I had never had one problem. Used it a lot with trip to havasu, Mojave, mead, and a number of trips to Catalina. Solid boat rigged tight.

Thanks RCDave... I'll have to make a run down to Corona and meet Bob.

Catalina in a 25?? That's dang good for handling the big rollers in the channel.

 

[Rdubz]

Thanks Rdubz. The 270 is a beast. Cuddy is HUGE! great looking boats for sure. My brother just got a 230 and I am very impressed with Cobra as a whole. I've been on Ultras, Halletts, and a DCB through out the years, and I would put his Cobra up next to any of them as far as quality of workmanship goes. Noe its my turn to get something! Fingers crossed!

Good luck on your search Sbarry! :thumbup:

 

[RCDave]

Thanks RCDave... I'll have to make a run down to Corona and meet Bob.

Catalina in a 25?? That's dang good for handling the big rollers in the channel.

The days we went over there were 2-4' and 3-5' and the boat did great. To be honest we've been to Mojave under tougher conditions. One time with wind whipped 2- 4 footers. 50-60 mph through it is big fun!

 

[FreeBird236]

I think why you're not finding many walk thoughs above 25' is a strength issue. You're looking at some great boats though...:thumbsup

 

[Sbarry]

The days we went over there were 2-4' and 3-5' and the boat did great. To be honest we've been to Mojave under tougher conditions. One time with wind whipped 2- 4 footers. 50-60 mph through it is big fun!

Yup, Mojave has the best monsoon I can remember.... In a 21' Ultra... Bilge was working OT!! Haven't been back since. Lol

 

[Sbarry]

I think why you're not finding many walk thoughs above 25' is a strength issue. You're looking at some great boats though...:thumbsup

Dumb question, but why a strength issue? Flex or what? Thanks

 

[McRib]

Yes. Take a piece of paper and fold it in half. With your hands at each creased end push ur hands together. Ull see that the middle opens wide up. If u had something in the middle keeping the sides together u wouldnt be able to push ur hands very close. Ive never seen a v bottom over 25 ft with a full walk through. The dash and cuddy roof line keeps it all together.

 

[Sbarry]

Yes. Take a piece of paper and fold it in half. With your hands at each creased end push ur hands together. Ull see that the middle opens wide up. If u had something in the middle keeping the sides together u wouldnt be able to push ur hands very close. Ive never seen a v bottom over 25 ft with a full walk through. The dash and cuddy roof line keeps it all together.

Makes perfect sense! Thanks McRib... Does anyone have that problem with the 25' walk-thru Tremor? I'm not sure but minus the molded swim step on the Razor, the two running lengths should be similar, right? But that is a great point...

 

[shippingguy]

There is really no strength issue with doing a walk thru in a v-bottom in a 26'. You do not just cut the dash and that is it! There is a lot of reinforcing and the dash is strengthened by running supports all the way down to the floor. There is actually less flex in the dash when cutout than if not due to the dash to floor supports. JMO

 

[Sbarry]

Idk if you're considering used boats or cuddy's but......

There's a really nice used Shockwave 25, Cuddy, 525EFI, in Corona at 62k

Also there's a 260 Razor,Cuddy, 496HO,listed in Havi for 69k.

Both boats listed on CL.

Definitely looking at used as well if I go 25-26'.

I've been eyeing the Cobra, not saying it's not worth the 69k, but out of my budget. As for the Shockwave, nice boat just not thinking I want flames or tribals. Both would be good buys though.

I also looked at the mostly red 260 that Cobra has on their site, and that's when I started wondering if I could have the boat modded to a walk-through.

 

[Sbarry]

Here are two boats I saw this morning that I thought you might like to look at.:thumbup:


Both look very nice and clean!


http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/4266807571.html




http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/4259297673.html

Good eye! I've been looking at these too. Really liking the Essex.

Also, the following

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2005-Lavey-Craft-26-Nu-Era-358755

 

[McRib]

22-25 ft imo need to be open bow walk through. 24's and 25's will have decent seating and storage on the sides and u can get out of the sun. 25 and over need to be open bow mid cuddy or closed bow imo. The 25 tremor is an awesome boat. True V to the transom and if im not mistaken no delta pad. It can knock down some serious shit.

with that said in the 25' mark i personally would be looking at Howards. The bottoms are faster.

If u like the 24 essex. Spend a lil more and get the 27 essex raven. Unless storage is an issue. The raven is very forgiving for a novice boater. If u wanna DRIVE a boat then 2750 nuera lavey is the way to go.

 

[Sbarry]

All suggestions are right on par for what I've been kicking back and forth. I really appreciate all the input.

I'll have to give Cobra a call to see about different configurations on the 260. Thanks again all

And: if money wasn't an issue, I'd already be at Howard placing an order on a Bullet. :thumbsup :thumbsup

 

[Sbarry]

There was a nicely priced Lavey 24 for 36k listed on CL in Corona this morning. Looks pretty nice if you like the gel design...

Looks like a pretty good deal, but the design... Looks a lot like the last boat my brother had built. Can't copy big bro too much... Haha good looking out tho, thanks

 

[YZFRider]

My 26 eagle is a full walk thru. Does not seem to have any strength issues.

 

[Sbarry]

My 26 eagle is a full walk thru. Does not seem to have any strength issues.

That is one bad looking boat dude! Really like it... Clean design for sure! I'm guessing not for sale?

 

[Sbarry]

Paging RDP member throttle....:thumbup:

By any chance did you hear back from Throttle?

 

[Sbarry]

Hopefully he'll chime in soon if he sees this thread. He has a beautiful Cobra Cuddy open bow and I'm sure could tell us a lot more about the boats. I haven't heard from him.

Alright no big deal. Thanks for checking... And yes his boat is beautiful. The yellow and blue look great together on the water!!

 

[Rdubz]

I'll post up some more pics of my Cobra when I get to my comp. :thumbsup

 

[Sbarry]

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I'll post up some more pics of my Cobra when I get to my comp. :thumbsup

Very nice 270!! Question: I know your mid cabin I noticeably larger than the 260's, but my main thought with them being closed on the smaller ones is having to rush up into to bow area in an emergency. Is it really ever a pain in neck, or am I just over thinking it?

But you definitely can't beat the style of the closed dash section, especially on the Cobras IMO. Sounds dumb but it's the little things like that with Cobra that have really drawn me to them. Well... That and they build one high quality, solid boat!! Again, just my opinion! Lol

Keep the pics coming!! Boat is sweet!!

 

[3queens]

]Very nice 270!! Question: I know your mid cabin I noticeably larger than the 260's, but my main thought with them being closed on the smaller ones is having to rush up into to bow area in an emergency. Is it really ever a pain in neck, or am I just over thinking it?

But you definitely can't beat the style of the closed dash section, especially on the Cobras IMO. Sounds dumb but it's the little things like that with Cobra that have really drawn me to them. Well... That and they build one high quality, solid boat!! Again, just my opinion! Lol

Keep the pics coming!! Boat is sweet!![/QUOTE]

I have the 260 razor
the only issue i see rushing to the front is if your a real heavy set guy
i have no problem rushin thru and im in no means a small fella
i love the mid cabin it comes handy for duckin outa the sun and monsoons if happen by
it sits tall in the water (one of the many reasons for my purchase) and takes on the mohave basin with no problems, belive me ive been in some
pretty hairy shit :yikes
if you are dead set on walk thru im sure Cobra can accomidate your request
:thumbsup

 

[RodnJen]

If you are fine with the open-bow cuddy have you looked at the Essex 27' Raven? One thing I like about their boats it relative ease of getting in and out over the back. Their transom and swimstep are very well laid out. I have small kids and that was a deciding factor when we purchased.

 

[Rdubz]

Very nice 270!! Question: I know your mid cabin I noticeably larger than the 260's, but my main thought with them being closed on the smaller ones is having to rush up into to bow area in an emergency. Is it really ever a pain in neck, or am I just over thinking it?

But you definitely can't beat the style of the closed dash section, especially on the Cobras IMO. Sounds dumb but it's the little things like that with Cobra that have really drawn me to them. Well... That and they build one high quality, solid boat!! Again, just my opinion! Lol

Keep the pics coming!! Boat is sweet!!

Hey Sbarry. No I've never had an issue getting to the bow of the boat in a hurry. The mid-cuddy actually steps down so there's more head room (haha no pun intended). Don't get me wrong you still have duck down but having the cuddy to get out of the sun and for my friends kids is nice to have. As well as seating in the cuddy Cobra also installed a couple nice spots the coolers to sit so that they don't move around while you're underway. As long as you have people in the boat who know the routine i.e. docking, launching, anchoring, etc it's not really going to be an issue unless your out solo.

 

[Sbarry]

If you are fine with the open-bow cuddy have you looked at the Essex 27' Raven? One thing I like about their boats it relative ease of getting in and out over the back. Their transom and swimstep are very well laid out. I have small kids and that was a deciding factor when we purchased.

Yes, Really like the 27 raven as well. Just have not seen a used one fall in to our budget yet. they're usually above 65k from what I've seen. And they're rarely up for sale, which is a good selling point for sure... Not many Essex period for that matter. :thumbup:

 

[CoolCruzin]

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I'll post up some more pics of my Cobra when I get to my comp. :thumbsup

Nice looking boat . Like the gel coat design.
Looking to get a 26ft Cobra, after I sell my 23ft

 

[Sbarry]

Hey Sbarry. No I've never had an issue getting to the bow of the boat in a hurry. The mid-cuddy actually steps down so there's more head room (haha no pun intended). Don't get me wrong you still have duck down but having the cuddy to get out of the sun and for my friends kids is nice to have. As well as seating in the cuddy Cobra also installed a couple nice spots the coolers to sit so that they don't move around while you're underway. As long as you have people in the boat who know the routine i.e. docking, launching, anchoring, etc it's not really going to be an issue unless your out solo.

Great info... Usually It'll be my wife and I, and some friends. MOST of the peopole have been around boats most their lives, but there will be the occasional crowd where I am pretty much solo, and thats what worries me!! haha

I have a call in to Cobra, so I should have some feed back today.

I'll keep you all posted on what they have to say!!

Thanks again for the insight Rdubz

 

[Sbarry]

Nice looking boat . Like the gel coat design.
Looking to get a 26ft Cobra, after I sell my 23ft

Good luck on the sale.. Nice looking 230!! :thumbsup

 

[Sbarry]

Alright... Just got off the phone with Cobra. They have never done a wlk-thru 260, BUT they can do it. It will not effect the structural integrity of the boat at all... It really just comes down to personal preference at that point. Figured I'd let you guys know since everyone has been giving me a ton of helpful information. Thanks everyone!!

So now to figure out what to do..... so many damn options! haha :headscratch:

 

[RCDave]

One thing to consider is the structural integrity afforded by a mold designed and engineered to be a walk through versus a cut out.

 

[Sbarry]

One thing to consider is the structural integrity afforded by a mold designed and engineered to be a walk through versus a cut out.

See... I've wondered that too. Like the 255 Hallet was molded to be a walk thru, which means engineering, R&D, etc... So yes, I think you make a good point! But then again, I don't think a brand like Cobra would put something out that wasn't proven to be safe for the buyer. Just my .02. Some of the old fly-by-night builders?? That's a different question!!

Thanks for the good input!

 

[YZFRider]

My 260 was rigged to handle over 700 hp. I just cant afford the power.Would Boostpower and Eliminator build a boat for that much power if there was structurally a risk?

 

[Sbarry]

My 260 was rigged to handle over 700 hp. I just cant afford the power.Would Boostpower and Eliminator build a boat for that much power if there was structurally a risk?

that was kind of my point too... I dont think ANYONE would lump Eliminator in with the old Fly-by-night builders.... I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

I can see others' conserns on structural rigidity, but there is no way any reputable builder would give a customer something that wasn't proven to be safe! I'm just a dummie with no boat, but just doesn't make sense to me that safety wouldn't be TOP priority during the production process!!

 

[Sbarry]

My 260 was rigged to handle over 700 hp. I just cant afford the power.Would Boostpower and Eliminator build a boat for that much power if there was structurally a risk?

your boat makes me want to go check this one out.... BAD!

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/4259297673.html

 

[3queens]

your boat makes me want to go check this one out.... BAD!

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/4259297673.html

This is nice
Another reason for my cobra purchase was the space from back seat to driver is lots of space
Not a lot of knee or leg room on the elim

 

[FreeBird236]

I think why you're not finding many walk thoughs above 25' is a strength issue. You're looking at some great boats though...:thumbsup

My 260 was rigged to handle over 700 hp. I just cant afford the power.Would Boostpower and Eliminator build a boat for that much power if there was structurally a risk?

You know I think your boat is awesome, and I had actually forgot Eliminator had made a few 260 walk thru's. Your boat is not weak, they strengthen the floor at the helm and storage area, and don't open the bow as far forward as the smaller boats. Imho I still feel it's harder to make a walk thru as strong without adding a little more weight, and the bigger the boat the harder it is. I'm not against walk thru's that's what mine is.

 

[3queens]

Walk-thru 25, very nice.:thumbup:



http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4249712482.html




2011 Walk thru.



http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4249828807.html

That is nice
Shockwave does a nice layout on the 25 :thumbsup

 

[Sbarry]

Walk-thru 25, very nice.:thumbup:



http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4249712482.html




2011 Walk thru.



http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4249828807.html

Both are nice looking boats!! The 13 especially... I've liked that one in particular for a while but I've noticed the platinum interior gets pretty dang hot in the sun. the 25 tremors are beautiful boats!!

And do seem to have a good sized cabin too...

Looks like I might have to open my mind about flames since there are so many used boats with em'

 

[Sbarry]

This is nice
Another reason for my cobra purchase was the space from back seat to driver is lots of space
Not a lot of knee or leg room on the elim

From the pictures, looks like you're right. I have not been in a 260 Eliminator. I'll have to check them out in person...

Thanks 3queens

 

[FreeBird236]

From the pictures, looks like you're right. I have not been in a 260 Eliminator. I'll have to check them out in person...

Thanks 3queens

Eliminator Eagles are a little tight on rear leg room, that's on purpose, to shift the weight to the back. On my 236 the steering wheel is aprox. 14.5 feet back from the nose, thats farther than most 25' or 26' boats. I don't know if it really makes that much of a performance difference or not, but that's the theory. In 1995 Powerboat mag tested a closed bow 250 Eagle with 415hp. at 78.9 mph, I don't believe that has been beat with that power.

 

[Bobby V]

Eliminator Eagles are a little tight on rear leg room, that's on purpose, to shift the weight to the back. On my 236 the steering wheel is aprox. 14.5 feet back from the nose, thats farther than most 25' or 26' boats. I don't know if it really makes that much of a performance difference or not, but that's the theory. In 1995 Powerboat mag tested a closed bow 250 Eagle with 415hp. at 78.9 mph, I don't believe that has been beat with that power.

78.9 :rolleyes

I have a 98' 25' Eagle open bow with a 502. Most I ever seen was 65mph with Yopengos gps. I'm a big guy and going thru the cuddy can be a pain when you need to get to the front of the boat but it can be done. Trust me on this.

 

[FreeBird236]

78.9 :rolleyes

I have a 98' 25' Eagle open bow with a 502. Most I ever seen was 65mph with Yopengos gps. I'm a big guy and going thru the cuddy can be a pain when you need to get to the front of the boat but it can be done. Trust me on this.

With my open bow 236 496HO the best I've seen is 73 with the 26 Bravo 1, so I know what you're saying, but I've personally read the article several times and that's what it claims on Radar. It used to be in the archives of Powerboat, but I can't find it now that they're out of business. That year(1995) the 250 Eagle was Powerboat runabout of the year due to that test. The closed bow would be lighter and it may have had a hi X dimension, I don't know. Maybe someone can still find it, 1995 don't remember the month.


Just found part of the magazine in the Eliminator section of RDP page 8 of the picture section Jayteetrotter. Sorry don't know how to link it here.

 

[riverbrian]

I have my buddies brand new Shockwave walk through on the side of my house, at first I was against the walk through for him but if you have kids you need it. Tons of head room on the sides, I'm 6'1 and sit comfortably.

I think he got a good deal, but I'm a Laveycraft guy! Can't beat Lavey fit and finish, but you will pay a touch more.