Dual axle enclosed trailers...

[ka0tyk]

Looking for a 16-18' dual axle trailer to haul around a small car, ie Mini Cooper. 2800lbs. Most have GVWR's of like 7k... I'm gonna tow it behind my bus but I kinda want an enclosed so we can pack stuff in it like bikes, power wheels, etc. as well. Is there anything I should be worried about otherwise? I've seen a couple youtube videos about price differences in construction such as sidewall gauge thickness, glued seams versus visible screws, etc. My biggest worry is the rear door, can it support having a car driven over it? I like that the wheels are tucked inside the trailer, I dont necessarily need the width with the MC is so small.

Something like this... basic.

 

[Bpracing1127]

should be fine. these are meant to handle a car

 

[Gramps]

I'm sure RD has one you can borrow

 

[outboard_256]

Those doors are made to drive on.

 

[coolchange]

Wouldn’t that put you at about 85’?

 

[ka0tyk]

Wouldn’t that put you at about 85’?

85' sheesh. The thought was to toss a little hitch onto the mini, when we get close to destination unload it, hook the trailer up to it. Then back it alongside the bus or in another spot. Most of the sites we have been to we have been asking and they have been able to park a small (under 20') trailer in a spot nearby or next to ours.

Plus I feel like I'd get a lot more use with what we do with the enclosed and being able to pull it with my truck or our RR.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Those doors are made to drive on.

This. There should be some metal structure in the door on the sides. In the center there may be little to none.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I have a 20ft Pace that I haul cars with. Getting my butt in and out of a modern car, say 49 and newer, is interesting. The reason being the wheel wells and door clearance. If you plan on hauling the same type of car, you can set your tie down points to make then easier to access.
For your application, probably not an issue...but I carry some small sections of 2x4 to drop the door on if it is uneven, or even a crown/gutter slope. I'm always afraid I'll screw up the door, and sometimes I'll be in places that are unpaved.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have a 20ft Pace that I haul cars with. Getting my butt in and out of a modern car, say 49 and newer, is interesting. The reason being the wheel wells and door clearance. If you plan on hauling the same type of car, you can set your tie down points to make then easier to access.
For your application, probably not an issue...but I carry some small sections of 2x4 to drop the door on if it is uneven, or even a crown/gutter slope. I'm always afraid I'll screw up the door, and sometimes I'll be in places that are unpaved.

Good advice. And with a Mini it will be a squeeze getting out. It's doors are low and relatively long.

 

[Waterjunky]

Good advice. And with a Mini it will be a squeeze getting out. It's doors are low and relatively long.

Before you buy anything, test it on the lot. This is a serious deal breaker on ideas like that. A mini is narrow but sill a car with a door. If you want to get fancy, you could probably order a side door in the right location to open before loading and then open the car door into this opening. The better lines from the better builders allow customization. My small I5 would do this type of thing fairly easy. One of the greatest things I did with it was had E-track built into the wall at about 12" and 36". If I did it again I would add it around the front, across the door (yea weak but still useful) and down the floor. Everyone who has been around that trailer is just in love with it.
Also, think about the size you want. A mini is small and light, how big do you really need? A friend has a 7x12 with tandem 3.5k axles. Mine is a 10x6 with a single. He cusses his all the time as he would have been fine with my size. The difference is that mine is easy for one person to push around including turning and spinning when on a reasonable surface. His requires a truck if you want to do anything other than wherever its pointed. You could get that mini in one with a 5k single easily. Then again, this is RDP, go for the triple.......

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Before you buy anything, test it on the lot. This is a serious deal breaker on ideas like that. A mini is narrow but sill a car with a door. If you want to get fancy, you could probably order a side door in the right location to open before loading and then open the car door into this opening. The better lines from the better builders allow customization. My small I5 would do this type of thing fairly easy. One of the greatest things I did with it was had E-track built into the wall at about 12" and 36". If I did it again I would add it around the front, across the door (yea weak but still useful) and down the floor. Everyone who has been around that trailer is just in love with it.
Also, think about the size you want. A mini is small and light, how big do you really need? A friend has a 7x12 with tandem 3.5k axles. Mine is a 10x6 with a single. He cusses his all the time as he would have been fine with my size. The difference is that mine is easy for one person to push around including turning and spinning when on a reasonable surface. His requires a truck if you want to do anything other than wherever its pointed. You could get that mini in one with a 5k single easily. Then again, this is RDP, go for the triple.......

Worst case a winch will work no problem. I wanted an escape door but found a deal on my enclosed without one. It is a contortionist act getting out of my race car, but it works. Mine is 8' wide. Considering an in floor winch.

 

[lbhsbz]

Looking for a 16-18' dual axle trailer to haul around a small car, ie Mini Cooper. 2800lbs. Most have GVWR's of like 7k... I'm gonna tow it behind my bus but I kinda want an enclosed so we can pack stuff in it like bikes, power wheels, etc. as well. Is there anything I should be worried about otherwise? I've seen a couple youtube videos about price differences in construction such as sidewall gauge thickness, glued seams versus visible screws, etc. My biggest worry is the rear door, can it support having a car driven over it? I like that the wheels are tucked inside the trailer, I dont necessarily need the width with the MC is so small.

Something like this... basic.

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I was just chatting with a vendor this morning who has an enclosed for sale...I mostly ignored it, but let me reach out again

 

[Ace in the Hole]

The trailer you pictured I'm almost sure is a "Deep South" build. the fender design on the inside and some other things give it away. They have several options..mine is all LED, more diamond plate etc. You want the diamond plate at the v, and the bend to the main trailer. The inside of the trailer is very wide, which is good, and the doors are overbuilt, and heavy as hell because of it. Mine has a spring assist on cables..id assume that one will too. I have a bigger one, have no real complaints...they are no Pace/haulmark etc...the price reflects it and so does fit/finish..but it does just fine for me. Be prepared to spend a day doing some silicone work etc but other than that they are great for the money.

 

[boatpi]

You need one specified as a car trailer not a cargo trailer it has a shorter distance between the frame rails and a reinforced door.

 

[boatpi]

I had a Pace for years, great flawless trailer. I have a sundowner Ultra all aluminum flatbed now.

the problem My bed and most are just 82 or 83 inches wide on the deck. My Lambo is 82 inches wide at the rear tires!!! so I have an issue. I’m trying to find another low profile trailer that’s 85 or 86 inches wide and I’m not having much luck. I can have an enclosed made even with a removable inside fender, but I have been down that road. I only tow 300 miles too big and bulky, I like the flatbed with a box up front for a windscreen works quite well.

Trying to find a solution.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I had a Pace for years, great flawless trailer. I have a sundowner Ultra all aluminum flatbed now.

the problem My bed and most are just 82 or 83 inches wide on the deck. My Lambo is 82 inches wide at the rear tires!!! so I have an issue. I’m trying to find another low profile trailer that’s 85 or 86 inches wide and I’m not having much luck. I can have an enclosed made even with a removable inside fender, but I have been down that road. I only tow 300 miles too big and bulky, I like the flatbed with a box up front for a windscreen works quite well.

Trying to find a solution.

You need a deckover with LOOOOOONG ramps

 

[Wheeler]

I had a Pace for years, great flawless trailer. I have a sundowner Ultra all aluminum flatbed now.

the problem My bed and most are just 82 or 83 inches wide on the deck. My Lambo is 82 inches wide at the rear tires!!! so I have an issue. I’m trying to find another low profile trailer that’s 85 or 86 inches wide and I’m not having much luck. I can have an enclosed made even with a removable inside fender, but I have been down that road. I only tow 300 miles too big and bulky, I like the flatbed with a box up front for a windscreen works quite well.

Trying to find a solution.

Give Peter Brock or Montrose. a call either will make it work. Brock is in Henderson.

 

[cold_one]

Give Peter Brock or Montrose. a call either will make it work. Brock is in Henderson.

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Anyone of these would be perfect for what you need.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Anyone of these would be perfect for what you need.

That’s true. They will also cost more than the tow vehicle.

 

[Wheeler]

You need a deckover with LOOOOOONG ramps

A slider would be simpler or he could buy a P-car and call it a day.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

A slider would be simpler or he could buy a P-car and call it a day.

 

[Wheeler]

That’s true. They will also cost more than the tow vehicle.

Dude! he's talkin Lambo. Money ain't no object for them tractor boys.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Dude! he's talkin Lambo. Money ain't no object for them tractor boys.

That’s true. Couple of the guys I ran around with a Willow Springs have similar setups to what you pictured.

 

[boatpi]

I a aware of Brock's trailer, and now Jimglo has a special one built for the 2020 Ford GT$$, at 30 K each for a flat bed. For two times a year use, ill pass. Hell, even the Sundowner's are 12K https://www.schrecksauto.com/2021-sundowner-trailers-22-foot-ultra-car-racing-trailer-vaui|boh.html

 

[Wheeler]

That’s true. Couple of the guys I ran around with a Willow Springs have similar setups to what you pictured.

Then along comes the Gooch with his million dollar mustang on a flat bed. He unloads it and then proceeds to trash the track and his car all weekend long.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I a aware of Brock's trailer, and now Jimglo has a special one built for the 2020 Ford GT$$, at 30 K each for a flat bed. For two times a year use, ill pass. Hell, even the Sundowner's are 12K https://www.schrecksauto.com/2021-sundowner-trailers-22-foot-ultra-car-racing-trailer-vaui|boh.html

Would the Sundowner work if you cut off the rails behind the rear fenders?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Then along comes the Gooch with his million dollar mustang on a flat bed. He unloads it and then proceeds to trash the track and his car all weekend long.

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A million dollar Mustang, is still a mustang. Let it eat

 

[boatpi]

Maybe if I cut the rails, I need to look at the position of it next time in Vegas. Thx for the thought That Aventador's rear wheels are 16" wide, that is the big issue. I had it on once, if those rims hit the sides, then OUCH.

 

[Wheeler]

I a aware of Brock's trailer, and now Jimglo has a special one built for the 2020 Ford GT$$, at 30 K each for a flat bed. For two times a year use, ill pass. Hell, even the Sundowner's are 12K https://www.schrecksauto.com/2021-sundowner-trailers-22-foot-ultra-car-racing-trailer-vaui|boh.html

this Montrose was for sale a couple of years ago for 14k. used of course. He was looking for a used Aero vault and ended up buying new.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

I have a 20ft Pace that I haul cars with. Getting my butt in and out of a modern car, say 49 and newer, is interesting. The reason being the wheel wells and door clearance.

I would think a mini would be easy to get out of. How wide could it be? Getting out of my Chevelle is a little tight but it has to be way wider than a mini.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Maybe if I cut the rails, I need to look at the position of it next time in Vegas. Thx for the thought That Aventador's rear wheels are 16" wide, that is the big issue. I had it on once, if those rims hit the sides, then OUCH.

It is wider in back than the front, right? If you can get the front on OK I think you have many options to make the back tires fit with minor modifications to an open trailer.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I would think a mini would be easy to get out of. How wide could it be? Getting out of my Chevelle is a little tight but it has to be way wider than a mini.

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Does your door clear the wheel well? My only saving grace is a lot of the cars I tow have running boards, so I'm given at least that much door opening
Nice Car!

 

[boatpi]

Yes rear is wider, even front tires are close, but not so much as rear, like zero clearance. I’ll look at it possibility of modification tomorrow. I use through wheel ties downs, E track would be best.

 

[boatpi]

I just checked, the Montrose is only 82.5” wide inside.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Does your door clear the wheel well? My only saving grace is a lot of the cars I tow have running boards, so I'm given at least that much door opening
Nice Car!

My door opens about 1/2 an inch over the wheel wells. And thanks!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yes rear is wider, even front tires are close, but not so much as rear, like zero clearance. I’ll look at it possibility of modification tomorrow. I use through wheel ties downs, E track would be best.

Are you able to see what you are doing if you pull it onto the trailer with the door up? Can you stick your head out and easily see and place the left front wheel?

I like the through wheel tie downs as well.

 

[boatpi]

Yes, no problem seeing while loading.

 

[ka0tyk]

I would think a mini would be easy to get out of. How wide could it be? Getting out of my Chevelle is a little tight but it has to be way wider than a mini.

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5.5’ wide. That gives 8-9” or so on each side. Door is 11” from the ground clearance wise. Worst case I line it up and winch it in via the tow hook in the front bumper so I don’t have to climb out the window.

I’m trying to find a 16’ v nose enclosed car trailer… they don’t seem to exist? 16x7’ are all “cargo” trailers.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

5.5’ wide. That gives 8-9” or so on each side. Door is 11” from the ground clearance wise. Worst case I line it up and winch it in via the tow hook in the front bumper so I don’t have to climb out the window.

I’m trying to find a 16’ v nose enclosed car trailer… they don’t seem to exist? 16x7’ are all “cargo” trailers.

I was talking to a friend this afternoon and he was asking about my quotes from a couple years ago to have 3 enclosed trailers shipped from back East. They only need 2 of them.

Obviously my pricing from a couple years ago is now completely inaccurate, but you could have a 16’ V nose car hauler built. That is exactly what I was looking at building for myself. I ended up with an 18 foot flat front.

This was right at $5k 2 years ago.

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[Wheeler]

I just checked, the Montrose is only 82.5” wide inside.

Convert one of your lambos to a hauler. I bet bonesfab could do it right!

 

[ka0tyk]

I was talking to a friend this afternoon and he was asking about my quotes from a couple years ago to have 3 enclosed trailers shipped from back East. They only need 2 of them.

Obviously my pricing from a couple years ago is now completely inaccurate, but you could have a 16’ V nose car hauler built. That is exactly what I was looking at building for myself. I ended up with an 18 foot flat front.

This was right at $5k 2 years ago.

NEW 8.5 X 16 8.5X16 ENCLOSED CARGO CAR HAULER TRAILER - V-NOSE | eBay

NEW 8.5 X 16 ENCLOSED CARGO CAR HAULER TRAILER. NEW 2022 8.5 X 16' ENCLOSED TRAILER. 24" ATP Front StoneGuard w/ ATP Nose Cap. If you don't see what you are looking for just call and have one of our highly trained trailer sales specialist assist you and built the custom trailer of your dreams.

www.ebay.com

I found this just at $7k. I like the white and black. But it’s only 7’ wide. I like the ones that are a little wider and the tires/fenders are recessed in the sides.

 

[Wheeler]

A million dollar Mustang, is still a mustang. Let it eat

The Gooches car might be worth 2 mil. ? That buys alotta mazdas.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The Gooches car might be worth 2 mil. ? That buys alotta mazdas.

Inflation is a bitch

 

[boatpi]

Get a full 8'6" wide trailer, the only way to go.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

5.5’ wide. That gives 8-9” or so on each side. Door is 11” from the ground clearance wise. Worst case I line it up and winch it in via the tow hook in the front bumper so I don’t have to climb out the window.

I’m trying to find a 16’ v nose enclosed car trailer… they don’t seem to exist? 16x7’ are all “cargo” trailers.

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[Wheeler]

I just checked, the Montrose is only 82.5” wide inside.

I wonder if that will fit Bobby's Corvette.

@Bobby V

 

[Bobby V]

I wonder if that will fit Bobby's Corvette.

@Bobby V

Maybe. But I sold the Vette 2 years ago.

 

[Wheeler]

Maybe. But I sold the Vette 2 years ago.

I hope you got a P-car!

 

[Wheeler]

Inflation is a bitch

lack of inventory.