Polaris Expands its Foothold in Dunes with Glamis Plan

[DunePilot]

RZR Maker Expands its Foothold in Dunes with Glamis Plan - Calexico Chronicle

Written by Priscilla Brown. Last Updated October 25, 2023 in Regional News. EL CENTRO — Polaris Inc., a well-known American manufacturer of off-highway vehicles headquartered in Medina, Minnesota, has been in operation since 1954

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[TPC]

It was the duners that took the Rzr 800 to the next level and the SXS sport class blossomed from there.

 

[69hondo]

RZR Maker Expands its Foothold in Dunes with Glamis Plan - Calexico Chronicle

Written by Priscilla Brown. Last Updated October 25, 2023 in Regional News. EL CENTRO — Polaris Inc., a well-known American manufacturer of off-highway vehicles headquartered in Medina, Minnesota, has been in operation since 1954

calexicochronicle.com

I was reading that. Sounds like a lot will change. It kind of sucks but at the same time Polaris has endless amount of money to fight to keep the dunes open to us.

 

[rivermobster]

For some reason, I Think I've heard this story before?

But the article does say "approved" in it. So maybe??

That would be cool if they could pull it all off.

 

[spark2678]

I was reading that. Sounds like a lot will change. It kind of sucks but at the same time Polaris has endless amount of money to fight to keep the dunes open to us.

That's how I see it. Catch 22.

 

[Hammer]

I think it's great that Polaris could fight to keep the dunes open if the state tried to close them, however, I am not a fan of commercializing Glamis with RV campgrounds and such.

It will draw less experienced off-roaders and that will lead to overcrowding and accidents(it's already a problem) which will ultimately hurt the California Off-Road community. The SXS craze already brings inexperienced people to the sport. Quite honestly, some people shouldn't be out there to begin with. The state already wants to cancel any type of off-road vehicles and public land use/access. I hope this is a positive and doesn't hurt the sport in the long run...

I guess time will tell.....

 

[DunePilot]

I think it's great that Polaris could fight to keep the dunes open if the state tried to close them, however, I am not a fan of commercializing Glamis with RV campgrounds and such.

It will draw less experienced off-roaders and that will lead to overcrowding and accidents(it's already a problem) which will ultimately hurt the California Off-Road community. The SXS craze already brings inexperienced people to the sport. Quite honestly, some people shouldn't be out there to begin with. The state already wants to cancel any type of off-road vehicles and public land use/access. I hope this is a positive and doesn't hurt the sport in the long run...

I guess time will tell.....

It's a mixed bag for sure.

On one hand we now get all kinds of newbies out there that have no business being there in the first place. That's not to mention all the crime and trash some of them bring.

On the other hand, I'm happy to see that Polaris is heavily invested in the area. It shows commitment. A proving ground actually out in the dunes means better sand cars for us in the future.

Polaris has been, and continues to be, one of the largest contributors to the ASA. As we all know it take big $$$ to keep the anti-access groups at bay. The ASA has spent millions doing it.

Perhaps a full-blown RV park and all the other amenities will draw the crowds away from the West side camping areas and over to the store area. That to me would be a good thing.

 

[Hammer]

It's a mixed bag for sure.

On one hand we now get all kinds of newbies out there that have no business being there in the first place. That's not to mention all the crime and trash some of them bring.

On the other hand, I'm happy to see that Polaris is heavily invested in the area. It show commitment. A proving ground actually out in the dunes means better sand cars for us in the future.

Polaris has been, and continues to be, one of the largest contributors to the ASA. As we all know it take big $$$ to keep the anti-access groups at bay. The ASA has spent millions doing it.

Perhaps a full-blown RV park and all the other amenities will draw the crowds away from the West side camping areas and over to the store area. That to me would be a good thing.

Good points! I was not aware Polaris contributes to ASA. Now If we can get a second Polaris proving ground in Pismo and open it back up I'd be excited.

 

[TPC]

I think it's great that Polaris could fight to keep the dunes open if the state tried to close them, however, I am not a fan of commercializing Glamis with RV campgrounds and such.

It will draw less experienced off-roaders and that will lead to overcrowding and accidents(it's already a problem) which will ultimately hurt the California Off-Road community. The SXS craze already brings inexperienced people to the sport. Quite honestly, some people shouldn't be out there to begin with. The state already wants to cancel any type of off-road vehicles and public land use/access. I hope this is a positive and doesn't hurt the sport in the long run...

I guess time will tell.....

The years I was active volunteering in re opening Glamis efforts discovered that any attempt to expand any camping access either an area or Gecko rd extension will bring lawsuits from the CBD and Public Employees extreme enviro groups.
The lawyers that work for these groups make bank various ways harassing access.

Somewhat peaceful situation now.
Removing the ghost camps would really open the access up. Evidently legislation removing the "homeless RV" camps from the streets may be applied to removing the ghost camps at OHV venues.

It's got outta hand last we rolled into Glamis.

 

[Hammer]

The years I was active volunteering in re opening Glamis efforts discovered that any attempt to expand any camping access either an area or Gecko rd extension will bring lawsuits from the CBD and Public Employees extreme enviro groups.
The lawyers that work for these groups make bank various ways harassing access.

Somewhat peaceful situation now.
Removing the ghost camps would really open the access up. Evidently legislation removing the "homeless RV" camps from the streets may be applied to removing the ghost camps at OHV venues.

It's got outta hand last we rolled into Glamis.

The ghost camping is inconsiderate and I’m glad they are doing something about it.

 

[TPC]

If Newsom makes it to the POTUS federal recreation lands like the US Forest Service and BLM oversee will be in serious jeopardy.
We were shocked recently to encounter a US Forest Service Employee in the Mammoth lakes trails system who's dedicated job was to maintain OHV trails.
That'll be phased out.

 

[TPC]

It's a mixed bag for sure.

That's not to mention all the crime and trash some of them bring.

Don't leave anything out, bring everything in. The thieves are everywhere in Glamis at anytime and they take everything.

 

[DunePilot]

The years I was active volunteering in re opening Glamis efforts discovered that any attempt to expand any camping access either an area or Gecko rd extension will bring lawsuits from the CBD and Public Employees extreme enviro groups.
The lawyers that work for these groups make bank various ways harassing access.

Somewhat peaceful situation now.
Removing the ghost camps would really open the access up. Evidently legislation removing the "homeless RV" camps from the streets may be applied to removing the ghost camps at OHV venues.

It's got outta hand last we rolled into Glamis.

Yes, that's correct.

And speaking of the CBD, I received this from them this AM. The bold red is mine.



Congress takes aim at the Center

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  Kierán Suckling, Center for Biological Diversity
  biologicaldiversity.org
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  Tue, Nov 7 at 4:32 AM
  
  
  
  

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  ​ ​ Give Now »​ Hi xxxxxx, Congress has a new target in its assault on the wild: us. Last week's attack — specific legislation aimed at banning funding for the Center for Biological Diversity — is a new low. Our opponents clearly know how effective we are at protecting the wild from greedy special interests. That's why they lashed out at us. Please stand with us by giving to the Saving Life on Earth Fund. As of now, all gifts to this fund will be matched through the end of the year. We're used to anti-wildlife forces in Congress putting species like wolves, grizzlies, sage grouse and others in their crosshairs. That they'd come after us by name just shows how desperate they are to stop our lifesaving work. Tennessee Republican Rep. Andy Ogles wants to ban the Center from receiving any funds from the U.S. Department of the Interior. He must not have liked that we fought back against special interests and won protection for species in his home state like the Tennessee clubshell and Tennessee pigtoe mussels. This is what we do. For more than 30 years the Center has secured Endangered Species Act protection for 758 species and over half a billion acres of protected critical habitat. That includes other animals we've protected this year, like California spotted owls, dunes sagebrush lizards and sunflower sea stars. We've also secured habitat protections for Sacramento Mountains checkerspot butterflies, North Pacific right whales, five species of Caribbean corals, and more. Those who do the dirty work for the fossil fuel industry and other special interests that destroy our planet — and worsen the extinction crisis — know how good we are at winning for wildlife. We won't be intimidated, and we'll never stop our uncompromising approach to safeguarding species great and small. This is our life's work — and the work is what gives us hope that we can save the mammals, birds, plants, lizards and insects that are counting on us. Our opponents want to tear down that hope and stop us in our tracks. They don't stand a chance. You can help by making a matched gift today to the Saving Life on Earth Fund. For the wild,​

  ​ ​ Kierán Suckling Executive Director Center for Biological Diversity