Red Robin lying bastards!!!!!

[koenig]

Decided I needed a burger and was in the mood for something just above fast food. So go for Red Robin. I haven't been to a regular restaurant for burgers in years here, usually go in the states when I'm at the cottage. I tell the waitress what burger I want, she just about leaves at that, so I ask her aren't you going to ask how I want it done. She looks at me confused. So I say medium rare please. She goes we don't do that here. Well I don't like it well done. She says I'll check with the kitchen just a sec. Comes back and says it has to be well done its the law. Red Robin in Washington does it how you want can't see that being a law. Check with the manager, sure enough they say its the law has to be done well. Well then I'll pay for my drinks and go somewhere else. I looked it up and no law exists on how hamburgers need to be cooked.

article on the subject

I called Dominic Losito, Vancouver Coastal?s health protection director. I was surprised to learn from him that demand for medium-rare burgers was growing from U.S. visitors It isn?t unlawful to serve medium-rare burgers Losito does, however, discourage operators from serving under-cooked house-ground beef and says most places don?t because their insurance companies and lawyers probably advise against it.

So its probably lawyers for Red Robin telling them to cook them well done. But its not against the law.

 

[Dettom]

What kind of world do we live in , when you can't even the freakin ' burger you want . For Christ sake.

 

[Deception88]

I remember reading somewhere that a lot of places are starting to cook well done now... Saying that they can't take a "risk" if someone gets sick...

 

[SJP]

Every time a reference to Red Robin is made I cannot help but think of PR388. Classic.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

Red Robin does that here in the states now too. I don't think they were lying, I just think they figured it was law but it certainly appears to be corporate policy.

Besides medium rare being way better I don't want to go there now because if your meat isn't quality enough to serve medium rare then I don't want it well done either.

 

[rivrrts429]

Every time a reference to Red Robin is made I cannot help but think of PR388. Classic.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the thread title lol

 

[koenig]

Red Robin in Washington was asking how you want it six months ago. But if they have started, agree with the not good enough for medium then I don't want it well done either. Guess Canadians don't ask and have come to expect well done. Its mostly Americans asking for medium, that's why I asked on and off living in the states has me expecting a choice!

 

[Guest]

All burgers at rdp will be well done....TBI handles those "hard case" inmates who oppose

 

[TBI]

Decided I needed a burger and was in the mood for something just above fast food. So go for Red Robin. I haven't been to a regular restaurant for burgers in years here, usually go in the states when I'm at the cottage. I tell the waitress what burger I want, she just about leaves at that, so I ask her aren't you going to ask how I want it done. She looks at me confused. So I say medium rare please. She goes we don't do that here. Well I don't like it well done. She says I'll check with the kitchen just a sec. Comes back and says it has to be well done its the law. Red Robin in Washington does it how you want can't see that being a law. Check with the manager, sure enough they say its the law has to be done well. Well then I'll pay for my drinks and go somewhere else. I looked it up and no law exists on how hamburgers need to be cooked.

article on the subject

So its probably lawyers for Red Robin telling them to cook them well done. But its not against the law.

Dumb Bitch

 

[jayboat]

Fukkin lawyers are even ruining the burgers now. :cool

 

[koenig]

Oh I went for sushi (sashimi) instead. Be a real sad day if restaurants couldn't serve raw fish. Id move back to the states.

 

[BoatCop]

Dumb Bitch

 

[TBI]

 

[DRYHEAT]

Government and lawyers trying to save you from your self.

 

[WESTERNAERO]

Ate at Red Robin in Valencia, CA last weekend. They asked me how I wanted it cooked.

 

[koenig]

I've been meaning to try Golden Corral, one in Marysville WA, but its near an Indian casino that has a huge buffet which is tough to beat.

 

[was thatguy]

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Right click "save".:thumbsup

 

[RitcheyRch]

We were there about a month ago and were asked the same thing. :tbi

Ate at Red Robin in Valencia, CA last weekend. They asked me how I wanted it cooked.

 

[Old Texan]

I'm thinking this type of deal is either a location or regional franchisee decision. I've had a Fuddruckers claim they couldn't do medium rare and had other that had no issue.

I've seen restaurants have you sign a waiver and then serve it cooked to what you want and I've had restaurants ask for a signed waiver before serving raw oysters. Bullshit insurers or legal departments is my opinion. I typically pay up if I'm without business folks or others who might be inconvenienced, and leave. Most won't be in business long anyway if they are that paranoid.

I ate at Red Robin's in the past that had decent food, but since they've grown and expanded they really suck. They're off my list.

 

[was thatguy]

I'm thinking this type of deal is either a location or regional franchisee decision. I've had a Fuddruckers claim they couldn't do medium rare and had other that had no issue.

I've seen restaurants have you sign a waiver and then serve it cooked to what you want and I've had restaurants ask for a signed waiver before serving raw oysters. Bullshit insurers or legal departments is my opinion. I typically pay up if I'm without business folks or others who might be inconvenienced, and leave. Most won't be in business long anyway if they are that paranoid.

I ate at Red Robin's in the past that had decent food, but since they've grown and expanded they really suck. They're off my list.

Yeah we gave up on them in Redding also.
They used to be pretty decent, but in the past year or more they have really gone downhill quality wise.
The one in Grand Junction, CO is the best one I've been in.

 

[koenig]

They are not big in WA and its always pretty good quality. Here they have lots of locations, its possibly the biggest American chain not including McDonalds.

 

[milkmoney]

I went to a red robin in Oklahoma last weekend and the waitress ask

Pink or no pink. Of course I take it pink.

 

[82daytona]

As of a couple weeks ago RR Havasu was still asking how you'd like it cooked.

 

[PlumLoco]

Went to a 5 Guys burger place last year and ran into this.

For me it was 1 and Done, never going back. How can a burger place stay in business only serving well done meat?

 

[BHC Vic]

Red robins has a good salad 5 guys Is like whatever. Habit burger in n out or Andy's [emoji2]

 

[napanutt]

Every time a reference to Red Robin is made I cannot help but think of PR388. Classic.

Ditto!!!

 

[Dkahnjob]

As of a couple weeks ago RR Havasu was still asking how you'd like it cooked.

RedRobin in Havasu is not corporate owned, it is owned and run by the Marinelli Family and is far better than any of the corporate restaurant's.

 

[Outdrive1]

 

[TBI]

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[pronstar]

The only well-done burger I'll eat is Slater 50/50...they have to cool it more because if the ground bacon.

 

[koenig]

Brought it up with my brother, he said all the chain restaurants here say its illegal to serve medium rare. Guess in 93 Jack In The Box killed several people in Washington State with E coli and our health department started recommending restaurants cook hamburger straight through. So all the restaurants took that as it being illegal.

 

[DrHW]

The CDC says Ground Beef should be cooked to a temperature of 155 Degrees. Most states are at 160 Degrees. We are talking about Food Borne Illness, such as E. coli. This is pretty serious business. A nice thick Hamburger Patti cooked at high heat and pink in the middle is my preferred way to eat it. You have to know that you are taking a risk.

The last time I was at a Red Robin I could order my Burger cooked medium rare. The Red Robin was the only chain in Southern California that allowed you to do that to my knowledge. They have Corporate locations however the majority of the Restaurants are Franchised.

 

[DrHW]

Guess in 93 Jack In The Box killed several people in Washington State with E coli...

Including Children.

Then they blamed the meat supplier instead of accepting the responsibility themselves. It became a public relations nightmare and that is when they brought "JacK" back in their marketing program to regain the confidence of the consumer. Many other things changed including the standards of the FDA in the Meat Food Processing Plants.

 

[Guest]

Brought it up with my brother, he said all the chain restaurants here say its illegal to serve medium rare. Guess in 93 Jack In The Box killed several people in Washington State with E coli and our health department started recommending restaurants cook hamburger straight through. So all the restaurants took that as it being illegal.

So if you owned a restaurant. .. would you risk being sued. ... and undercook something.. at a customers request. ... the same customer who, If he gets sick, Will be sitting at the plantiffs table. ... and he will win

 

[TBI]

Have you tried a different slop?

 

[Guest]

Have you tried a different slop?

No slop.... radio

 

[TBI]

No slop.... radio

Breaker breaker or top 40?

 

[Guest]

Breaker breaker or top 40?

We have both kinds...

 

[TBI]

We have both kinds...

Bob's Country Bunker :thumbsup

 

[Nacimientobound]

Freedom of choice has been ruined by lawsuits.

 

[BajaMike]

I hate Red Robin. That ass hole that ran the one in Havasu a few years ago....he would not serve more than one drink to anyone....even though he had a full bar.

I went there once, had a drink with my burger, ordered another drink, and the ass hole manager/owner came over and said "we don't serve more than one drink to anyone, we don't want any drunks here".

I said "fuck you" and paid and left and I have never been to a Red Robin since then.

Have a bar....but don't server drinks??

I think that one went out of business.....not sure why????

 

[TBI]

 

[koenig]

Medium rare cooked to the right temp should be fine as far as killing bacteria. Under cooked would rare. I did get food poisoning from seafood at a restaurant, so did my friend same dish. We didn't sue the restaurant, shit happens.

 

[pronstar]

I prefer medium rare. Since bacteria live on the surface of meat, it's no big deal on a steak. But when it's ground-up, you're introducing he surface bacteria throughout the meat as it's ground.

But I'll take my chances, no need to eat shoe leather LOL

 

[Old Texan]

Just my observation, but the high majority of e-coli contamination of hamburger comes in the prepackaged product mass ground at the packing house. Stuff that's typically the cheap discount store crap. The scraps off the cutting room floor are the source in my opinion. Having grown up around the meat packing/processing business, quartered beef is cleaned and kept very sanitary after initial processing. Scraps to me are where the contamination enters the process.

Looking back on several incidents I can recall, it's always traced back to this packaged stuff.

 

[pronstar]

IMHO the best way to buy ground beef at a grocery store, is to choose a steak and ask them to grind it for you.

 

[TBI]

choose a steak and ask them to grind it for you.

Pull your pants up Pronny....

 

[koenig]

We have a grocery store that grinds beef at the store on request but its more expensive naturally. Buts its better then off the shelf ground beef prepackaged, that comes from their supplier. I sometimes get it to make hamburgers at home. But don't like cooking and rather go out for it.

 

[Paul65k]

IMHO the best way to buy ground beef at a grocery store, is to choose a steak and ask them to grind it for you.

I think you hit the nail on the head.....the problem is that they only clean that grinder at the end of the day unless they are changing from Beef to pork so even if you see wht they put in it may not be all that is coming out :grumble:

 

[Old Texan]

I think you hit the nail on the head.....the problem is that they only clean that grinder at the end of the day unless they are changing from Beef to pork so even if you see wht they put in it may not be all that is coming out :grumble:

My old man would grind beef every hour back in the day. You're correct on the grinder cleaning but it really ain't a factor in my opinion. Most market areas are cool being near opening and closing coolers. If left overnight there may be an issue. Raw meat contrary to public opinion doesn't spoil as fast as many think.

The contaminants like e-coli come from other sources not present in well maintained markets. I'm far more concerned with getting e-coli from the lettuce on a burger than the meat. Produce is far more dangerous than meat as far as being contaminated.