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Saving funds for a down payment should be part of an overall program to get your finances in order prior to shopping for a home. This includes rounding up financial records, examining your spending habits, and setting a budget you can live with. Remember, too, that the down payment is not the only up-front expense. An allowance for closing costs should also be included in your savings budget.

How much is required?
The down payment is usually expressed as a percentage of the overall purchase price of the home, and varies depending on the lender, the type of financing and amount of money being lent. In the past, the typical down payment was 20%, but in recent years lenders have been willing to offer conventional financing with as little as 3% down (These type of loans are virtually gone now). U.S. Government financing programs, such as those offered by the Dept. of Veterans Affairs (VA) or the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), also require minimal down payments and are still available.

Private mortgage insurance
Typically, if your down payment is less than 20% of the purchase price, lenders will require you to carry PMI, or private mortgage insurance. This insurance protects the lender in case of loan default, and usually involves an up-front payment at closing, as well as a monthly premium. However, once you have paid off 20% of the loan, you can request the policy be canceled. Some lenders cancel the premium automatically, while others require you to make a request in writing.

Gifts
If you are having trouble saving enough money, many lenders will allow you to use gift funds for the down payment--as well as for related closing costs. The gift may come from family, friends or other sources, but remember that lenders usually require a "gift letter" stating the gift doesn't have to be repaid. In addition, some lenders will also require you to pay at least a portion of the down payment with your own cash. Thus, if you plan to use gift money to purchase your house, ask your lender about their policies regarding gifts.

Earnest money
Buyers are usually required to deposit earnest money with the seller when they make an offer. If the offer is accepted, the earnest money is then credited towards the down payment. The amount varies widely depending on the seller and local custom, but be prepared from the outset to have funds earmarked for this purpose.

Don't forget closing costs
In addition to the down payment, you will also need to save for additional fees associated with the loan. Known as closing costs, these charges cover items such as title insurance, documentary stamps, loan origination fees, the survey, attorney's fees, etc. When you submit your loan application, lenders are required to supply you with a good faith estimate of your closing costs.

Some buyers are surprised by the amount of the closing costs, which can easily run into the thousands of dollars. Remember, though, that closing costs can be negotiated with the seller. For example, you may agree to pay the full asking price in exchange for the seller paying all the allowable closing costs.
 

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Damn, I don't see how the average person could save up nowadays to purchase a home, especially in Cali. Damn near impossible, unless you are a dual income home making 6 figures w/out kids. It's sad times for the average Joe who has no support. :thumbsdown
 

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I hear you. The article states what you need to save but doesn't suggest how to accomplish it.

When I was younger I was told to put away 10% of your bring home and you would have enough for retirement when you reached retirement age. Sounded easy enough, do you think I did it? Nope

SO I guess I'll be working until I kick it.
 

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In the past, the typical down payment was 20%,

Some buyers are surprised by the amount of the closing costs, which can easily run into the thousands of dollars.

on a 300K house that would be over 50K:eek: how is someone supposed to do that:confused:
 

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on a 300K house that would be over 50K:eek: how is someone supposed to do that:confused:

My point exactly to my post above. Hate to be negative, but it must suck for alot of peeps trying to buy their first home. :(
 

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My point exactly to my post above. Hate to be negative, but it must suck for alot of peeps trying to buy their first home. :(

that would be me :( i guess i could live like a hermit for the next couple years:hmm now doesn't that sound like a bunch of fun:mad:
 

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i guess my ?? would be... how does someone get into their first home nowadays without such a giant down payment and still get a decent mortgage payment??
 

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Damn, I don't see how the average person could save up nowadays to purchase a home, especially in Cali. Damn near impossible, unless you are a dual income home making 6 figures w/out kids. It's sad times for the average Joe who has no support. :thumbsdown

Even then its not that easy. :(:(
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$300k? I wish I could have found a home for that much. :smackhead:smackhead

Truth be told....With how tough loan requirements are I probably wouldn't qualify for my house in todays market:swear:):smackhead

If I had shitty credit and didn't put 100K down I would look into renting...lol:skull:fsakes
 

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Truth be told....With how tough loan requirements are I probably wouldn't qualify for my house in todays market:swear:):smackhead

If I had shitty credit and didn't put 100K down I would look into renting...lol:skull:fsakes

Same here. Only thing that would save me is my 800+ fico. Even then it would be tough I'd bet.
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Same here. Only thing that would save me is my 800+ fico. Even then it would be tough I'd bet.

You would have a better shot than me....

I need to sell the boat and ditch that 60K note:smackhead

I need a wife with a good credit score so I can add her 55K+ salary on top of my income and she can qualify for her own ride.:skull:D:skull

I can't complain...I sold my condo at a great time and made good $$$.

If I was a gennius I would have waited 2 years to buy and with 100K down my 3K mortgage would be 1500.
 

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Truth be told....With how tough loan requirements are I probably wouldn't qualify for my house in todays market:swear:):smackhead

If I had shitty credit and didn't put 100K down I would look into renting...lol:skull:fsakes

It sucks I refinanced my place (I owed less than 100k) to start my place in Seal Beach and it was an act of congress. I have a fico of 785 and they basically wanted my first born. I had to show two years of personal tax returns and two years of corporate tax returns. Plus so much more little BS that I almost said screw it. The pendulum has swung way too far the other way.
 

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so basically what you guys are saying is... have fun renting:thumbsdown



got it... i guess it will get better sooner or later
 

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Don't disparage renting; especially in today's market. While house prices continue to come down to realistic numbers, you will be renting. You will get far more for your money.

There is the old adage about tax savings... HA !!! That is just another fed ploy. Think about it. If you pay the money in taxes, it goes toward the interest on our debt to the fed. If you pay the money in mortgage interest, ultimately the banks (all technically borrowing from the fed) pay the interest to the fed. Either way... you are a slave to the fed... (they are the guys who loan money to the treasury every year so we can have the privilege of trading with our neighbors....)...

Go find yourself a nice place to rent and don't sweat the small stuff. When everyone else is bailing out of the house that they bought for $500k and is now worth $300k... you'll be able to get one.

..not that i have an opinion....
 

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I bought a house for $210,000 and put down 3%. I used a FHA loan it was a huge hassle and took 3 months to do, what was in my favor is the house was NOT a Short sale or Foreclosure and the house had no mortgage. They want you to have good credit and a good job and not alot of debt. So if you have been responsible you have a chance. I had the seller pay my closing costs.Just a side note the house was worth $380,000 during the peak. I feel bad for the ones who bought at the peak and bought a house to live in.
 

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I bought a house for $210,000 and put down 3%. I used a FHA loan it was a huge hassle and took 3 months to do, what was in my favor is the house was NOT a Short sale or Foreclosure and the house had no mortgage. They want you to have good credit and a good job and not alot of debt. So if you have been responsible you have a chance. I had the seller pay my closing costs.Just a side note the house was worth $380,000 during the peak. I feel bad for the ones who bought at the peak and bought a house to live in.

You are 100% correct, FHA is still available, even if you own other homes. Only 3% down and you can ask the seller to pay closing costs. It will take longer and you have to jump through hoops, but with the lower prices out there right now you can get into a starter home with affordable payments.
 

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Time to update this thread...

What has & has not changed in 2010 in regards to getting a home loan?
 

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We're starting the process right now. We found a nice starter house in Westminster for our elder two kids to move into. We make the down and they make the payments. I figure that they'll eventually get everything so why not stick a foot in the door right now and get them started.

We're doing 20% down and it's being bought as an income property. 5.25% loan is the best we're finding out there (the Havasu house already is listed as our second residence). The seller (a contractor) wants the deal concluded in 30 days with a $10,000 deposit through the drop of contingencies, a 17 day period. Don't expect any problems since we were approved for our budgeted loan before we started shopping, but who knows.

The house is a courthouse flip by the contractor, fully renovated including a new kitchen with slab granite countertops. We'll add undercounter lighting in the kitchen and can lighting throughout the house, that's all that's really needed. 1700 sq ft house and a pool, $425,000 purchase price.

Cheers, Mark
 
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yeah i just purchased a home through the FHA it was actually pretty easy and pretty cheap. 3% down and i had the seller pay the closing costs (which was bank of america) it did take three months but it wasnt because of the fha loan it was because it was the seller stalled on every repair that needed to be done. (with fha loan the house has to be in "move in liveable condition" which means all appliances minus the fridge no holes in the walls all vanitys and countertops and what not. The cost of houses out in las vegas right now are great compared to what they were 3-4 years ago. I bought my repo for 155,000 and the previous owner had refied it back in the hayday for damn near 400,000. Its a buyers market out there right now. But in a couple months the market is gonna be flooded with another wave of repo's ( the balloon payments from years ago are gonna do another increase) So the prices of houses might drop again. just be on the lookout
 

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We're starting the process right now. We found a nice starter house in Westminster for our elder two kids to move into. We make the down and they make the payments. I figure that they'll eventually get everything so why not stick a foot in the door right now and get them started.

We're doing 20% down and it's being bought as an income property. 5.25% loan is the best we're finding out there (the Havasu house already is listed as our second residence). The seller (a contractor) wants the deal concluded in 30 days with a $10,000 deposit through the drop of contingencies, a 17 day period. Don't expect any problems since we were approved for our budgeted loan before we started shopping, but who knows.

The house is a courthouse flip by the contractor, fully renovated including a new kitchen with slab granite countertops. We'll add undercounter lighting in the kitchen and can lighting throughout the house, that's all that's really needed. 1700 sq ft house and a pool, $425,000 purchase price.

Cheers, Mark

Good luck with the purchase! I wish I could have helped you with the process. Please let me know if you need any help or advice.

Dan
 

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So the prices of houses might drop again. just be on the lookout

We just bought a house in LHC. Bank-owned repo in great shape. I noticed that every home we liked was gone within a day of us looking at it. In LHC, the decent homes move fast. In this case, it was the condition of the home, (very lightly lived-in) and the garage (52 feet double with another single) that sold us. And those were the homes disappearing so fast.

We made an offer, the bank countered SLIGHTLY lower than their asking. Set it up conventional, but put 60K down on it (home was 200K) and financed the rest. The lending and selling banks were the same bank, and a family member is the loan officer on the lending side. (My sister) Also, since it will be retirement home, (and my only home currently) it had to go as a second home, but I did get a 5.125% mortgage.

Despite having golden credit, and way more than the required 20% (yeah, I have saved all of my life for this) I was still drug all over the mud, having to explain every penny of what I had in assets and savings.

I can't imagine what the average blue collar family with a couple of kids is doing right now for securing a VA or FHA loan, much less a conventional IF they have the cash saved.

What I understand is that the banks are not real happy about floating a bunch of notes at this piss-poor % rate.

Sorry such a long post. It was a 45-day closing requirement, and today is day 46, but it's in the hands of the title company. All I wanna do is move!
 

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We're due to close tomorrow on the house I mentioned in post #20. This has been a royal PITA mostly since it's non-owner occupied, though having been purchased for our kids and not a true rental. We ended up having to put 25% down and got 5.125%. The biggest issue was that the down payment needed to come from a 90 day "seasoned" account, not one with monies recently transfered into for purposes of the down. We normally leave our money in the company's accounts and draw only as we need it. The underwriter dug up issues on houses we've owned going back 30 years. Nothing major, just screw ups by title and escrow companies where an "i" was left undotted and a "t" left uncrossed.

Crossing our fingers that everything closes tomorrow or I have a couple of house guests moving in until it does.

Cheers, Mark
 

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We're due to close tomorrow on the house I mentioned in post #20. This has been a royal PITA mostly since it's non-owner occupied, though having been purchased for our kids and not a true rental. We ended up having to put 25% down and got 5.125%. The biggest issue was that the down payment needed to come from a 90 day "seasoned" account, not one with monies recently transfered into for purposes of the down. We normally leave our money in the company's accounts and draw only as we need it. The underwriter dug up issues on houses we've owned going back 30 years. Nothing major, just screw ups by title and escrow companies where an "i" was left undotted and a "t" left uncrossed.

Crossing our fingers that everything closes tomorrow or I have a couple of house guests moving in until it does.

Cheers, Mark

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