4Killed on I-40 @ Hector Road

[boatpi]

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/4-killed-3-ejected-from-violent-solo-vehicle-desert-crash-in-san-bernardino-county/

 

[4Waters]

Seatbelts people, seatbelts. Sad deal, prayers to the families

 

[zhandfull]

Terrible!

 

[Orange Juice]

Was it raining out there this morning?

 

[D19]

The traffic was terrible today. We passed 4 accidents today on the 40. I guess a semi went off the road just before this one between Hector and Ludlow. We could see 3 rotators on scene from National Trails HWY. Thankfully we had people ahead of us who told us about it so we could get off at Ludlow and go around.

There was a bad wreck involving a Tacoma a travel trailer and sprinter van climbing the hill of Needles. The trailer was disconnected and upside down so not sure which one was pulling it.

We hit a few light patches of rain. Nothing crazy.

 

[JFMFG]

Sad deal. They say car veered off the road wonder if the person driving fell asleep.

 

[zhandfull]

Sad deal. They say car veered off the road wonder if the person driving fell asleep.

Makes me wonder if they were young people. Not that it matters terrible regardless.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Damn, there were college graduations out here. Hoping no inmate knew them. Broad reach though

 

[boatpi]

Four Dead in Single-Vehicle Rollover Crash on I-40 Near Barstow - Victor Valley News

A single-vehicle rollover on I-40 near Needles Sunday morning has resulted in four fatalities. Emergency responders confirmed the deaths of all occupants after the vehicle overturned several miles west of Hector Road. CHP is investigating the cause of the crash. Read more at vvng.com #vvng #news...

www.vvng.com

 

[zhandfull]

In the comments someone said it was a father and three sons. Fell asleep.

 

[Hardly Satisfied]

Very sad to hear. RIP

 

[DILLIGAF]

Man.....thats just horrible.

RIP to all the departed

 

[wzuber]

In the comments someone said it was a father and three sons. Fell asleep.

oh man, that's horrible. The poor wife/mother, unimaginable pain there for gawd knows how long?
Is that FBW'S beat? I hope he's ok if he had to roll that scene or notify the widow. Horrendous situation.

 

[monkeyswrench]

oh man, that's horrible. The poor wife/mother, unimaginable pain there for gawd knows how long?
Is that FBW'S beat? I hope he's ok if he had to roll that scene or notify the widow. Horrendous situation.

I think it used to be, but he's on Rice Rd now I think. Sadly, he may not be on this one, but on others both past and probably future. Regardless, I feel for all parties involved, from the family to the witnesses and responders. Horrible scene, I'm sure.

 

[FlyByWire]

oh man, that's horrible. The poor wife/mother, unimaginable pain there for gawd knows how long?
Is that FBW'S beat? I hope he's ok if he had to roll that scene or notify the widow. Horrendous situation.

Not mine, that’s the Barstow office. But we’ve all seen plenty of these. The ones out here usually don’t get any media coverage whatsoever.

 

[throttle]

I think it used to be, but he's on Rice Rd now I think. Luckily, he may not be on this one, but on others both past and probably future. Regardless, I feel for all parties involved, from the family to the witnesses and responders. Horrible scene, I'm sure.

I fixed it for ya, "luckily @FlyByWire may not be on this one". "Luckily" is how I feel about not being on these type of incidents lately. They never leave your head, we call it the slide show.
This one brings me back to one very similar about 14/15 years ago on the 40 when a dad and 2 of his 3 sons were with him when he died onscene with me trying to assist just after the helicopter landed for him. I offered help to the chp officer who was alone and had nobody to help him. One of the sons was DOA, the other with minor injuries. I remember the 3rd brother stayed home. Its a picture and a story I can not ever forget, one of hundreds if not thousands in my head. So when I say "luckily", its just one less that stacks my slide show and its one that does't re-appear later.

RIP, thoughts and prayers for those grieving.

 

[Cobalt232]

We drove by about 10:00 yesterday morning. Caltrans and CHP were still working it. We knew it was bad when we saw the yellow tarps. Unfortunately it was windy and the tarps weren't covering too well. Awful scene.

 

[JFMFG]

In the comments someone said it was a father and three sons. Fell asleep.

That’s so sad.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I fixed it for ya, "luckily @FlyByWire may not be on this one". "Luckily" is how I feel about not being on these type of incidents lately. They never leave your head, we call it the slide show.
This one brings me back to one very similar about 14/15 years ago on the 40 when a dad and 2 of his 3 sons were with him when he died onscene with me trying to assist just after the helicopter landed for him. I offered help to the chp officer who was alone and had nobody to help him. One of the sons was DOA, the other with minor injuries. I remember the 3rd brother stayed home. Its a picture and a story I can not ever forget, one of hundreds if not thousands in my head. So when I say "luckily", its just one less that stacks my slide show and its one that does't re-appear later.

RIP, thoughts and prayers for those grieving.

I'm not a first responder type, but unfortunately been first on scene more than I care to count. Some things don't fade, images, scents and feelings as vivid as a moment back, yet years have past.

 

[FlyByWire]

I fixed it for ya, "luckily @FlyByWire may not be on this one". "Luckily" is how I feel about not being on these type of incidents lately. They never leave your head, we call it the slide show.
This one brings me back to one very similar about 14/15 years ago on the 40 when a dad and 2 of his 3 sons were with him when he died onscene with me trying to assist just after the helicopter landed for him. I offered help to the chp officer who was alone and had nobody to help him. One of the sons was DOA, the other with minor injuries. I remember the 3rd brother stayed home. Its a picture and a story I can not ever forget, one of hundreds if not thousands in my head. So when I say "luckily", its just one less that stacks my slide show and its one that does't re-appear later.

RIP, thoughts and prayers for those grieving.

I’m sure you know first hand, but in the moment.. it’s work. We’ve got a lot of shit to do.. but it’s the images (or sounds, for me) after the fact that we’ll never get rid of. With the level of medical training we get, we sure do appreciate it when a medic/nurse/off duty hose dragger/doctor stops to help out, when it isn’t already too late. With how remote these areas are, we’ve all arrived on a scene and been the last person somebody sees. That’s kind of a big weight.

 

[beerrun]

I know this sounds horrible but you need to learn how to joke about it. In the coast guard picking up a body that the crabs had been enjoying for a week and that we had a hard time keeping in the litter was not easy at 18 but thats how we handled it because we were going to have to do it again another day not to far out

 

[FlyByWire]

I know this sounds horrible but you need to learn how to joke about it. In the coast guard picking up a body that the crabs had been enjoying for a week and that we had a hard time keeping in the litter was not easy at 18 but thats how we handled it because we were going to have to do it again another day not to far out

Oh we all most certainly do. My coping mechanism is humor, no doubt. Just need to make sure it’s with the right audience because we do have hearts.

Most of us, anyway.

 

[wzuber]

I fixed it for ya, "luckily @FlyByWire may not be on this one". "Luckily" is how I feel about not being on these type of incidents lately. They never leave your head, we call it the slide show.
This one brings me back to one very similar about 14/15 years ago on the 40 when a dad and 2 of his 3 sons were with him when he died onscene with me trying to assist just after the helicopter landed for him. I offered help to the chp officer who was alone and had nobody to help him. One of the sons was DOA, the other with minor injuries. I remember the 3rd brother stayed home. Its a picture and a story I can not ever forget, one of hundreds if not thousands in my head. So when I say "luckily", its just one less that stacks my slide show and its one that does't re-appear later.

RIP, thoughts and prayers for those grieving.

I can only imagine how difficult that would be having to deal with that much human death and destruction on a regular basis. I don't know how you guys do it but I/we thank every last one of you for your strength and courage to continue to deal with that horrible human reality on a regular basis. I hope you all can find a healthy and effective way to manage that process.

 

[wzuber]

I know this sounds horrible but you need to learn how to joke about it. In the coast guard picking up a body that the crabs had been enjoying for a week and that we had a hard time keeping in the litter was not easy at 18 but thats how we handled it because we were going to have to do it again another day not to far out

In the 80's I worked for a pomona ca. fireman in his side hustle const. Gig. He didn't talk too much about the f.d. job. One day we were on a job and he just matter of factly says " we went on a call this morning and this guy was just hanging around." I thought he was saying some guy was standing about where they were on a call and didn't grasp the significance of his statement. I replied I don't understand the significance of that..whatcha talkin bout? He was "joking" about the fact the guy hung himself. I kinda missed the humor in it. Continually having to see such a horrible side of humanity can really take a toll I imagine. it takes a special kinda person to fill that roll and return to it on a daily basis. God bless those that do.

 

[monkeyswrench]

@beerrun and @FlyByWire ...and the others...for some of us, there's no one to joke with or vent about it. You guys are, or we in circles where it was commonplace, or at least more common. Soldiers have battlemind group to vent about what they've seen. Families or witnesses to stuff, have the option of therapy with a college twerp that has no clue of the reality outside of the lecture halls of academia.

Us f'rs have to deal with our limited experiences the only way we know how...either bottle it up, or drain a bottle. Gets interesting at times, because that stuff is just another aspect of the day.

 

[FlyByWire]

In the 80's I worked for a pomona ca. fireman in his side hustle const. Gig. He didn't talk too much about the f.d. job. One day we were on a job and he just matter of factly says " we went on a call this morning and this guy was just hanging around." I thought he was saying some guy was standing about where they were on a call and didn't grasp the significance of his statement. I replied I don't understand the significance of that..whatcha talkin bout? He was "joking" about the fact the guy hung himself. I kinda missed the humor in it. Continually having to see such a horrible side of humanity can really take a toll I imagine. it takes a special kinda person to fill that roll and return to it on a daily basis. God bless those that do.

I had a buddy that worked for a smaller local PD where I grew up. Responded to a suicide by hanging of a guy that hadn't been heard from in a couple days. He and a couple other officers were documenting some things in the garage where the gentleman hung himself. Buddy looks over and sees a couple fishing poles. Walks over, grabs one, walks back and stands next to the body.. and gives a giant thumbs up like he’d just caught the biggest fish in all the land.

…just as the spouse was walking into the garage.

Fired.

 

[wzuber]

I had a buddy that worked for a smaller local PD where I grew up. Responded to a suicide by hanging of a guy that hadn't been heard from in a couple days. He and a couple other officers were documenting some things in the garage where the gentleman hung himself. Buddy looks over and sees a couple fishing poles. Walks over, grabs one, walks back and stands next to the body.. and gives a giant thumbs up like he’d just caught the biggest fish in all the land.

…just as the spouse was walking into the garage.

Fired.

Oh man, I bet he felt horrible.
Timing is everything....
A private moment turned un-private at the worst possible moment. When a coping mechanism bites you in the ass. Lol

 

[monkeyswrench]

I had a buddy that worked for a smaller local PD where I grew up. Responded to a suicide by hanging of a guy that hadn't been heard from in a couple days. He and a couple other officers were documenting some things in the garage where the gentleman hung himself. Buddy looks over and sees a couple fishing poles. Walks over, grabs one, walks back and stands next to the body.. and gives a giant thumbs up like he’d just caught the biggest fish in all the land.

…just as the spouse was walking into the garage.

Fired.

Stuff like this is why I know I'm kind of broken. I want to laugh, but think I shouldn't, then think "the lighting would have been way off in a garage for that...but in a tree..."

 

[beerrun]

Ok coast guard story not my crew pick up a dead guy decided on the way back to the CG dock to put him in the coxins seat and make it look like he was driving the boat put a cigarette in his mouth and here they come into the dock family was there waiting they didn't know

 

[monkeyswrench]

Ok coast guard story not my crew pick up a dead guy decided on the way back to the CG dock to put him in the coxins seat and make it look like he was driving the boat put a cigarette in his mouth and here they come into the dock family was there waiting they didn't know

Really thinking proper communication is a factor here...wouldn't even want to write the reports on the followup on that one.

 

[beerrun]

My CG crew sent out to get a dead body from a navy mine sweeper wooden hull boat CG boat 44MLB steel hull boat 8 ft seas we can't come alongside the navy boat because we don't want to crush it they have the gut in a body bag so we get close and they start swing and heave him across to our boat he had rigamortus and when he hit the deck his fist broke through the bag so picture the guy in a body bag laying falt on his back with his fist in the air sticking out of the bag

 

[WYRD]

As an ex-medic I've seen my fair share too. Laughter is definitely a coping mechanism but we never resorted to things like mentioned above. As fly by wire noted, when you're on scene, you're working. The laughter and the jokes came later back at the station. Some of the things we did however made it to our report writing and made up acronyms that only meant something to those that know.

F u b a r - fucked up beyond all recognition
DFO - done fell out (ejection)
UAB - ugly ass bitch
H p o a - hot piece of ass
FSB ‐ fat sum bitch

Those are just a few that were in the rotation

 

[4Waters]

As an ex-medic I've seen my fair share too. Laughter is definitely a coping mechanism but we never resorted to things like mentioned above. As fly by wire noted, when you're on scene, you're working. The laughter and the jokes came later back at the station. Some of the things we did however made it to our report writing and made up acronyms that only meant something to those that know.

F u b a r - fucked up beyond all recognition
DFO - done fell out (ejection)
UAB - ugly ass bitch
H p o a - hot piece of ass
FSB ‐ fat sum bitch

Those are just a few that were in the rotation

HP - Hispanic panic

 

[throttle]

Oh we all most certainly do. My coping mechanism is humor, no doubt. Just need to make sure it’s with the right audience because we do have hearts.

Most of us, anyway.

This

Professionally and respectfully!

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Seen dead bodies since I can remember dad is an anatomy professor. Pre embalming and post, pre and post dissection, freezers full of parts you name it.

Dad thought this was funny when I was about 12.

Dad “want some ice cream?”

Me “heck yeah”

Dad “it’s over there in the freezer help yourself”

Me “yikes”!!

Wasn’t ice cream.

 

[FlyByWire]

Seen dead bodies since I can remember dad is an anatomy professor. Pre embalming and post, pre and post dissection, freezers full of parts you name it.

Dad thought this was funny when I was about 12.

Dad “want some ice cream?”

Me “heck yeah”

Dad “it’s over there in the freezer help yourself”

Me “yikes”!!

Wasn’t ice cream.

Gross!

Right out of the academy I had a training officer take me out for a “welcome aboard” lunch.. whatever I wanted, his treat.

Next stop, the LA County Coroners Office.

Anybody that’s ever been there can smell this sentence.

Fucking Home Depot of just, dead humans.

I “got” to watch an autopsy.. and I swear on my children, never fucking again.

 

[Ducksquasher]

God Bless...RIP.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Gross!

Right out of the academy I had a training officer take me out for a “welcome aboard” lunch.. whatever I wanted, his treat.

Next stop, the LA County Coroners Office.

Anybody that’s ever been there can smell this sentence.

Fucking Home Depot of just, dead humans.

I “got” to watch an autopsy.. and I swear on my children, never fucking again.

No joke on the smell! I had more info to share but I’ll save that for another thread.

 

[Socalx09]

This is so sad. RIP

 

[monkeyswrench]

Gross!

Right out of the academy I had a training officer take me out for a “welcome aboard” lunch.. whatever I wanted, his treat.

Next stop, the LA County Coroners Office.

Anybody that’s ever been there can smell this sentence.

Fucking Home Depot of just, dead humans.

I “got” to watch an autopsy.. and I swear on my children, never fucking again.

Was this at the old County General?
Had a buddy all set to do that whole coroner deal. I have no clue how many physiology classes and bio courses, he was in it pretty deep. Had no issues with most the stuff involved...maybe he was a tad off camber. It turned out he had a limit, and he found it. He had a mental block, humans under a certain age.

I think it takes a certain "programming", or wiring for certain jobs. First responders, nurses, doctors and soldiers to name a few. Not everyone is cutout to be a tremendous athlete, or mathematics wizard. No matter how much you study or train, you may not have those genes. Same goes with the human mind I believe.

 

[tostark]

As said, when on scene it is work and for some periods of time there is a lot of waiting….. on investigators, coroner, etc. this is when guys unfortunately start getting too comfortable and start talking about the weekend, boating trips, etc. topics that have nothing to do with the scene, but when people watching see you laughing and joking, it is never good. Always in a fish bowl