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He said one choice would keep status quo, border, inflation etc, the other choice meant Trump and all his warts. It was clear as day to me, but what do I know.
One has TDS, and the other has been crying about my profession for years. Don't waste your time.
 

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Reading comprehension is not your friend.


What you are missing from the context of that exchange is the Oracles prior statements admitting that a vote for someone who has no chance of winning is wasted vote. I call that being a coward in the overall context of what we are facing.

It's all good if you wanted to help Harris win dude, I get it.


That statement only supports and reaffirms your anti-cop sentiment. I don't care, nor have I ever.

I have a few friends who are cops....and I hold them in high regard. Not all cops are dipshits, and not all dipshits are cops....but you seem to combine those traits...
There is nothing short sided about voting for one of two candidates who are the only two who have a chance of winning. If you are talking about primary's etc, that is a different story. But once it's down to two, your vote goes for one or the other, or it's a throw away.
Do you understand how the electoral college works? You live in CA...if I'm not mistaken. Why would you vote for Trump when you know the state will go blue?... The only wasted votes in the state of CA was a vote for Trump or.... Kamala......since we all knew she would win the CA vote. A vote for the 3rd party was the only vote not wasted for CA residents / voters.....If nobody in CA voted Trump but instead voted for the 3rd party if they didn't want Kamala, then the nation would probably have an actual possibility at a 3rd candidate in the following presidential election.

Again....basic high school shit here.
 
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I have a few friends who are cops....and I hold them in high regard. Not all cops are dipshits, and not all dipshits are cops....but you seem to combine those traits...

Do you understand how the electoral college works? You live in CA...if I'm not mistaken. Why would you vote for Trump when you know the state will go blue?... The only wasted votes in the state of CA was a vote for Trump or.... Kamala......since we all knew she would win the CA vote. A vote for the 3rd party was the only vote not wasted for CA residents / voters.....If nobody in CA voted Trump but instead voted for the 3rd party if they didn't want Kamala, then the nation would probably have an actual possibility at a 3rd candidate in the following presidential election.

Again....basic high school shit here.
Congratulations, You're a member of the Plausible Deniability Party.

Myself and millions of others, voted for Ross Perot. That gave us Bill Clinton. I learned my lesson.

I do however believe that the far, whacky, left will run off many center left and moderate Democrats. They will combine with the RINO or never Trumper's and form a "centrist" third party that will be formidable. The next few election cycles will be interesting.
 

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in what respect? are you implying that I'm retarded?
I and many other in here don't use that word anymore. You are proving to many P&G posters how you think by doing so.

And no. here is the definition

 

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And yore way nothing would ever get done
Just like the last 20 years

They don't want it to change

Keep the gravy train going for these pos politicians

This was the only way ...

Sad thing is after Trumps term these deals probably won't be enforced

Again too much to lose or more to gain via back room deals. They are whores
Trump term still has 15 years. Maybe more.
 

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I and many other in here don't use that word anymore. You are proving to many P&G posters how you think by doing so.

And no. here is the definition

Plausible deniability is theabilityofsomeonetodenyknowledgeorresponsibilityforanaction,evenifevidencesuggestsotherwise,becausethedenialisbelievableorplausible.
Many of us in here have the ability to hit the spacebar with one of our opposable thumbs whilst typing. I have not denied knowledge of anything....I've made the statement that their are certain things I don't give a shit about, because based on the limited knowledge I have....expanded knowledge either doesn't apply or will hurt to a greater extent than it would should I remain ignorant....

Many also disagree with killing innocent animals for sport, yet you have posted several instances where you go on Safari to Africa to kill animals that you can't kill stateside because they don't exist here outside of a zoo. I think the use of the term "retard" pales in comparison to taking lives for sport (animal lives....to be clear. There are plenty of humans that need to be aggressively hunted IMO....but I can't buy a tag for that so I stay out of it).

If you're talking about the plating I do with "dangerous" chemicals in my backyard...then I guess you're sorta right, but I'll tell anyone that asks exactly what I'm doing. At this point, I'd love for a bunch of assholes in windbreakers to come take all this shit so I don't have to do it anymore. I wouldn't mind one bit....it's a pain in the ass, I only do it because everyone else that does it sucks at it and people keep calling me....i'd really rather not be involved.

If you think you're some sort of a Saint...then get your name on a cross hanging from a chain around all your follower's necks. Once you realize you're not....why get involved in a discussion that doesn't concern you or what you do in the least bit?
 
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Many of us in here have the ability to hit the spacebar with one of our opposable thumbs whilst typing. I have not denied knowledge of anything....I've made the statement that their are certain things I don't give a shit about, because based on the limited knowledge I have....expanded knowledge either doesn't apply or will hurt to a greater extent than it would should I remain ignorant....

If you're talking about the plating I do with "dangerous" chemicals in my backyard...then I guess you're sorta right, but I'll tell anyone that asks exactly what I'm doing. At this point, I'd love for a bunch of assholes in windbreakers to come take all this shit so I don't have to do it anymore. I wouldn't mind one bit....it's a pain in the ass, I only do it because everyone else that does it sucks at it and people keep calling me....i'd really rather not be involved.
That was how the copy paste posted, it's why I deleted it.

I have no clue how your plating issue is involved?

My Plausible deniability comment refers to you voting third party. It allows you to bitch about the outcome, regardless who gets elected. You can deny any responsibility for your actions.
 
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That was how the copy paste posted, it's why I deleted it.

I have no clue how your plating issue is involved?

My Plausible deniability comment refers to you voting third party. It allows you to bitch about the outcome, regardless who gets elected. You can deny any responsibility for your actions.
Applogies, see me edit (that I started before you replied...).

I don't like anyone who is stupid enough to run for president...they all have mental disorders of varying degrees....and yes, I will bitch about the outcome as that is my right. What actions, specifically...and their results, and I solely and personally responsible for?
 

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Many of us in here have the ability to hit the spacebar with one of our opposable thumbs whilst typing. I have not denied knowledge of anything....I've made the statement that their are certain things I don't give a shit about, because based on the limited knowledge I have....expanded knowledge either doesn't apply or will hurt to a greater extent than it would should I remain ignorant....

Many also disagree with killing innocent animals for sport, yet you have posted several instances where you go on Safari to Africa to kill animals that you can't kill stateside because they don't exist here outside of a zoo. I think the use of the term "retard" pales in comparison to taking lives for sport (animal lives....to be clear. There are plenty of humans that need to be aggressively hunted IMO....but I can't buy a tag for that so I stay out of it).

If you're talking about the plating I do with "dangerous" chemicals in my backyard...then I guess you're sorta right, but I'll tell anyone that asks exactly what I'm doing. At this point, I'd love for a bunch of assholes in windbreakers to come take all this shit so I don't have to do it anymore. I wouldn't mind one bit....it's a pain in the ass, I only do it because everyone else that does it sucks at it and people keep calling me....i'd really rather not be involved.

If you think you're some sort of a Saint...then get your name on a cross hanging from a chain around all your follower's necks. Once you realize you're not....why get involved in a discussion that doesn't concern you or what you do in the least bit?
No, I am no saint. I make no apologies for my Sport Hunting.

My mission to educate folks about the "R" word began in 1998, when my premature twins were both born with intellectual disabilities. I, like many just didn't know any better. I made my surviving son a solemn promise. First, to never do anything to disappoint him. Second, to always defend the disabled and their honor. A strong and civil society, defends the weakest among us, not ridicule them.
 

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That statement only supports and reaffirms your anti-cop sentiment. I don't care, nor have I ever.
This comment seems a bit hypocritical.

It is you who have repeatedly supported pardoning those who assault law enforcement.

Feel free to peruse this thread for repeated evidence of your support for those who assault law enforcement.

 

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This comment seems a bit hypocritical.

It is you who have repeatedly supported pardoning those who assault law enforcement.

Feel free to peruse this thread for repeated evidence of your support for those who assault law enforcement.


I like how you always repost that comment about yore lil RINO friend Adam the crying Kinzinger. 🤣
 

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I like how you always repost that comment about yore lil RINO friend Adam the crying Kinzinger. 🤣
That’s a 56 page thread. It is not about Kinzinger but about T&Y’s support for those who physically beat law enforcement.
 

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That’s a 56 page thread. It is not about Kinzinger but about T&Y’s support for those who physically beat law enforcement.

Can you share it with yore RINO site?
 

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I have a few friends who are cops....and I hold them in high regard. Not all cops are dipshits, and not all dipshits are cops....but you seem to combine those traits...
Awesome. I have several friends who own their own business. None of them are blaming a Cop or a Trump voter for the success or failure of their business. And news flash dude, I've actually rebuilt a few brake calipers over my time working on vehicles. It was about as brainless an activity as swapping out a fuse. But for some reason you like to come across in her all holier then thou. In reality, you actually come across like a whiny little bitch. Which is actually pretty accurate given the fact that all you've been doing is whining, and by your own definition you are just a bitch.


Do you understand how the electoral college works? You live in CA...if I'm not mistaken. Why would you vote for Trump when you know the state will go blue?... The only wasted votes in the state of CA was a vote for Trump or.... Kamala......since we all knew she would win the CA vote. A vote for the 3rd party was the only vote not wasted for CA residents / voters.....If nobody in CA voted Trump but instead voted for the 3rd party if they didn't want Kamala, then the nation would probably have an actual possibility at a 3rd candidate in the following presidential election.

Again....basic high school shit here.
Yup I completely agree that your views as posted in here are extremely consistent with some of the high school kids I'm around. I do like your train of thought here: So Nobody should have voted for Trump so a Third party would win the presidential election? Hahahahaha... Man, that's some higher level educational shit right there... yet you think I come across as the dumbass. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Good god man, just stop while you still have a shred of credibility with your business insight in here. Come back to reality here for a minute and answer just two simple questions.

1) What candidates had any chance of winning the presidential election of 2024?

2) Who did you vote for?
 

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This comment seems a bit hypocritical.

Oh jesus... Fire up the pretzel machine.
It is you who have repeatedly supported pardoning those who assault law enforcement.

Feel free to peruse this thread for repeated evidence of your support for those who assault law enforcement.

I have repeatedly supported treating all of the J6 protestors the same as they treated any of the BLM/Antifa protestors. If they had locked up all the BLM/Antifa protestors, then I would have supported locking up all the J6 protestors. That is not at all what happened, and what we saw as a miscarriage of justice on a national level. Feel free to try and disprove that.

Reality is most of those who were locked up for their involvement in J6 served far more time than anyone else assaulting cops during a protest across this nation. Go ahead and try and deny it.

Russia Russia Russia...
 

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Oh jesus... Fire up the pretzel machine.

I have repeatedly supported treating all of the J6 protestors the same as they treated any of the BLM/Antifa protestors. If they had locked up all the BLM/Antifa protestors, then I would have supported locking up all the J6 protestors. That is not at all what happened, and what we saw as a miscarriage of justice on a national level. Feel free to try and disprove that.

Reality is most of those who were locked up for their involvement in J6 served far more time than anyone else assaulting cops during a protest across this nation. Go ahead and try and deny it.

Russia Russia Russia...
Finally you admit assaulting law enforcement is fine with you.
 

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Finally you admit assaulting law enforcement is fine with you.
Not finally, but for about the millionth time here, you prove how you like to twist words to support your narrative regardless of reality. Which is exactly why you have no credibility.

Russia Russia Russia
 

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Ive been waiting since 2018.
May have helped clear the waters if the Biden admin had continued to enforce the tariffs instead of letting it slide.

I mean 7 years in might have spiked more change, instead of 2.5 years and we get "tariff, what tariff"

So IMO the 2018 argument is a moot point related to tariffs.

I do however understand what you are getting at.
 

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May have helped clear the waters if the Biden admin had continued to enforce the tariffs instead of letting it slide.

I mean 7 years in might have spiked more change, instead of 2.5 years and we get "tariff, what tariff"

So IMO the 2018 argument is a moot point related to tariffs.

I do however understand what you are getting at.

Im not sure what you mean by this.
The tariffs did not go away under Biden.
Like every greedy politician, his regime was happy to take and mis-spend the money for its own dubious ends.

Those that started paying them under Trump continued paying them under Biden.

Biden increased some tariffs - semi conductors , solar panels, and EV's all raised under Biden.
(hilarious as he was ramming green tech down our throats he was taxing a shit out of it)

What we didnt see is a blanket tariff on everything coming from anywhere.


Bidens Chips act was the minimum possible effort at trying to bring some manufacturing back, and halt tech transfers to china, its way to little and too late, but it was mostly just a tax giveaway to one company (but an important one for sure) TSMC that started under Trump.
 
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Im not sure what you mean by this.
The tariffs did not go away under Biden.
Like every greedy politician, his regime was happy to take and mis-spend the money for its own dubious ends.

Those that started paying them under Trump continued paying them under Biden.

Biden increased some tariffs - semi conductors , solar panels, and EV's all raised under Biden.
(hilarious as he was ramming green tech down our throats he was taxing a shit out of it)

What we didnt see is a blanket tariff on everything coming from anywhere.


Bidens Chips act was the minimum possible effort at trying to bring some manufacturing back, and halt tech transfers to china, its way to little and too late, but it was mostly just a tax giveaway to one company (but an important one for sure) TSMC that started under Trump.

Did China pay the tariffs Trump increased under Biden?

There are Chinese officials on record over the past 2 weeks that stated they did not pay the increased tariffs after 45 left office because Biden admin would not enforce it.

That is "what I mean" or what I was getting at.

Anything and everything that could be thrown out or not enforced Trump did in his first term was tossed in January 2021. Much like Trump did to Biden in January 2025.

You can't say I've been waiting since 2018 and discount 2021 thru 2025 like everything remained as is....

It didn't...
 

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Did China pay the tariffs Trump increased under Biden?

There are Chinese officials on record over the past 2 weeks that stated they did not pay the increased tariffs after 45 left office because Biden admin would not enforce it.

That is "what I mean" or what I was getting at.

Anything and everything that could be thrown out or not enforced Trump did in his first term was tossed in January 2021. Much like Trump did to Biden in January 2025.

You can't say I've been waiting since 2018 and discount 2021 thru 2025 like everything remained as is....

It didn't...

China doesn't pay tariffs, US importers do.

A tariff on "X" country is a bill that the company that imports a product from that country pays - not the country being tariffed.
 

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China doesn't pay tariffs, US importers do.

A tariff on "X" country is a bill that the company that imports a product from that country pays - not the country being tariffed.

Agreed it is a tax on the consumer - But it is tax levied on goods out of China, that was ignored by the Federal Government.

Do I care, not really - But the statement that you have been waiting for change from this since 2018, when it was allowed to so called "expire" for 4 years is reaching....

Have you tried not paying your Federal Income taxes lately?
 

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Agreed it is a tax on the consumer - But it is tax levied on goods out of China, that was ignored by the Federal Government.

Do I care, not really - But the statement that you have been waiting for change from this since 2018, when it was allowed to so called "expire" for 4 years is reaching....

Have you tried not paying your Federal Income taxes lately?
I believe the administration has stated the Biden administration did not enforce the trade quotas in the trade agreement. Not that they didn’t enforce the tariffs.
 

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Thats not what he said and you know it.
He made the following statement:

“I have repeatedly supported treating all of the J6 protestors the same as they treated any of the BLM/Antifa protestors. If they had locked up all the BLM/Antifa protestors, then I would have supported locking up all the J6 protestors. That is not at all what happened, and what we saw as a miscarriage of justice on a national level. Feel free to try and disprove that.”

He has repeatedly stated that BLM protesters that beat law enforcement were not charged and as he states above, therefore he is fine if others who beat law enforcement are not charged.

How else should one take this other than he is fine if individuals who beat law enforcement are not charged as he stated above. 🤷

He is stating above in black and white that he is fine if those who beat law enforcement are not charged.
 

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Agreed it is a tax on the consumer - But it is tax levied on goods out of China, that was ignored by the Federal Government.

Do I care, not really - But the statement that you have been waiting for change from this since 2018, when it was allowed to so called "expire" for 4 years is reaching....

Have you tried not paying your Federal Income taxes lately?


It starts as a tax on the importation of the goods.

It's up to the importer what to do next. Eat it, pass it on in whole partial or make it up. Most often they mark. it up because they have to carry the extra money on the bill.

Most often the importer will mark up the tariff and it pass on.

Customs will not release the product to the importer unless the tariff is paid.

I have no idea what you mean by it was "ignored by the federal government".
Since they've been put on you cannot import without paying the tariff, there is no dodging or escaping it, unless you are smuggling goods.
 

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I believe the administration has stated the Biden administration did not enforce the trade quotas in the trade agreement. Not that they didn’t enforce the tariffs.

This makes more sense.

It's really hard to force people to buy goods from you.
 

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" And if I was an Oscar Mayer wiener , You could take a bite of me " Sing it .
 

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How else should one take this other than he is fine if individuals who beat law enforcement are not charged as he stated above. 🤷
A person with a functioning brain might think this is a statement that the BLM rioters who attacked cops should have been locked up, but since they were not and we have a principle of equal treatment under the law, then we needed to treat people equally.


But since Trump fried your brain when you tried to look like him but you got the cheap Chinese spray tan with the extra fumes, your brain is less than functional ..
 

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The BLM group that went too far should be prosecuted and jailed.

The Jan 6 group that went too far should be prosecuted and jailed.

Letting either group go free is a travesty not "repaired" by whatever treatment happed or didn't to the other.

Participate in fuckery and you should go to jail.
 
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He made the following statement:

“I have repeatedly supported treating all of the J6 protestors the same as they treated any of the BLM/Antifa protestors. If they had locked up all the BLM/Antifa protestors, then I would have supported locking up all the J6 protestors. That is not at all what happened, and what we saw as a miscarriage of justice on a national level. Feel free to try and disprove that.”

He has repeatedly stated that BLM protesters that beat law enforcement were not charged and as he states above, therefore he is fine if others who beat law enforcement are not charged.

How else should one take this other than he is fine if individuals who beat law enforcement are not charged as he stated above. 🤷

He is stating above in black and white that he is fine if those who beat law enforcement are not charged.
What's good for the goose....
 

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What's good for the goose....
So then all the BLM fucks that are in jail get a pardon?

Where does it end?

If I advocate letting one group off a hook they deserve to be on because I don't like how another group was treated, then nobody gets held accountable for anything.
 

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What's good for the goose....
Unfortunately there are people that get away with criminal acts all day every day.

His view that if one gets away with a criminal act, no one should be held accountable for criminal acts doesn't make any sense to me.

But hey, if that is his view, that is the culture he deserves.

So then all the BLM fucks that are in jail get a pardon?

Where does it end?

If I advocate letting one group off a hook they deserve to be on because I don't like how another group was treated, then nobody gets held accountable for anything.
Exactly, one can certainly argue more should have been prosecuted both from BLM as well as from J6, but if one supports pardons for all of the J6 defendants who were prosecuted, it would only be logical to support pardons for any BLM rioter prosecuted.
 

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It starts as a tax on the importation of the goods.

It's up to the importer what to do next. Eat it, pass it on in whole partial or make it up. Most often they mark. it up because they have to carry the extra money on the bill.

Most often the importer will mark up the tariff and it pass on.

Customs will not release the product to the importer unless the tariff is paid.

I have no idea what you mean by it was "ignored by the federal government".
Since they've been put on you cannot import without paying the tariff, there is no dodging or escaping it, unless you are smuggling goods.

I believe the administration has stated the Biden administration did not enforce the trade quotas in the trade agreement. Not that they didn’t enforce the tariffs.

Maybe that's it - I have not had a lot of time the past few weeks to read entire articles....Just bits and pieces...

Maybe I can catch up tomorrow while traveling...
 

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So then all the BLM fucks that are in jail get a pardon?

Where does it end?

If I advocate letting one group off a hook they deserve to be on because I don't like how another group was treated, then nobody gets held accountable for anything.
Anyone who assaults LEO should get the appropriate treatment...whatever that may be. If 2 different people commit the same crime, they should get the same treatment...whatever that may be. To offer up different treatment/punishment to 2 different people who commited the same crime in 2 different locations doesn't work. Either brush it off for everyone or lock everyone up for XX years.

If the punishment is different for folks who get convicted of the same degree of the same crime, then that establishes case law which will open a lot of doors that shouldn't be opened, but also make a lot of attorneys considerably richer than they are now.

None of this addresses poorly applied charges or poorly run legal defenses....which are a separate thing entirely.

It doesn't (shouldn't) matter whether you or I like or dislike how a group or person was treated....there is the law as it's written. Don't wanna get involved with the law?....don't fuck around. it really is that easy. I'm not debating whether or not who should have been convicted of what. If convicted, and one dindonuffin, then they have the opportunity to appeal, if they have enough money for the attorney.

If convicted, they should be given the same punishment.
 

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Maybe that's it - I have not had a lot of time the past few weeks to read entire articles....Just bits and pieces...

Maybe I can catch up tomorrow while traveling...

Have a good trip.

This subject is rough to follow, the press, independent reporters and politicians use non interchangeable terms interchangeably all the time.

Sometimes they do it to obfuscate what they are really doing, and sometimes they dont actually understand it themselves.
 

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Anyone who assaults LEO should get the appropriate treatment...whatever that may be. If 2 different people commit the same crime, they should get the same treatment...whatever that may be. To offer up different treatment/punishment to 2 different people who commited the same crime in 2 different locations doesn't work. Either brush it off for everyone or lock everyone up for XX years.

If the punishment is different for folks who get convicted of the same degree of the same crime, then that establishes case law which will open a lot of doors that shouldn't be opened, but also make a lot of attorneys considerably richer than they are now.

None of this addresses poorly applied charges or poorly run legal defenses....which are a separate thing entirely.

It doesn't (shouldn't) matter whether you or I like or dislike how a group or person was treated....there is the law as it's written. Don't wanna get involved with the law?....don't fuck around. it really is that easy. I'm not debating whether or not who should have been convicted of what. If convicted, and one dindonuffin, then they have the opportunity to appeal, if they have enough money for the attorney.

If convicted, they should be given the same punishment.
I'm pretty sure we're aligned.
 

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Unfortunately there are people that get away with criminal acts all day every day.

His view that if one gets away with a criminal act, no one should be held accountable for criminal acts doesn't make any sense to me.

But hey, if that is his view, that is the culture he deserves.


Exactly, one can certainly argue more should have been prosecuted both from BLM as well as from J6, but if one supports pardons for all of the J6 defendants who were prosecuted, it would only be logical to support pardons for any BLM rioter prosecuted.
Lazy and useless LEO (sometimes mandated by the top brass at the agency for which they work) and lazy and useless victims and observers are the reason people get away with crimes.

For everything wrong that someone gets away with and is observed doing so with no recourse, 10 more people will do the same thing....and it just snowballs from there. I support harsh punishment, but it needs to be distributed equally or else it holds no water.
 

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He made the following statement:

“I have repeatedly supported treating all of the J6 protestors the same as they treated any of the BLM/Antifa protestors. If they had locked up all the BLM/Antifa protestors, then I would have supported locking up all the J6 protestors. That is not at all what happened, and what we saw as a miscarriage of justice on a national level. Feel free to try and disprove that.”

He has repeatedly stated that BLM protesters that beat law enforcement were not charged and as he states above, therefore he is fine if others who beat law enforcement are not charged.

How else should one take this other than he is fine if individuals who beat law enforcement are not charged as he stated above. 🤷

He is stating above in black and white that he is fine if those who beat law enforcement are not charged.
Russia Russia Russia...

Hey smart guy, didn't you link a thread about J6? Did you forget to add the posts in there where I talk about any who actually assaulted Law Enforcement should be locked up?

How convenient.

Russia Russia Russia...
 

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The BLM group that went too far should be prosecuted and jailed.

The Jan 6 group that went too far should be prosecuted and jailed.

Letting either group go free is a travesty not "repaired" by whatever treatment happed or didn't to the other.

Participate in fuckery and you should go to jail.
This is only hard for TDS-Oracle to understand. He also misses the part about how the J6'ers were actually locked up, while the overwhelming majority of those BLM/Antifa fucks were never even charged.

The guy is just trolling, plain and simple.
 

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This is only hard for TDS-Oracle to understand. He also misses the part about how the J6'ers were actually locked up, while the overwhelming majority of those BLM/Antifa fucks were never even charged.

The guy is just trolling, plain and simple.

I have neither TDS or TAS.

Nonsense I have a thread with Regor where I asked him and this group about this issue because I wanted to hear the local perspective and I said what happened to those guys is BS. Being deprived of due process is BS and those that suffered that should be let go.

That said some of these guys should not be let go and you know thats true.

I've demonstrated several pros and cons on the Donald in various threads, some you have agreed with me on.
 
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And news flash dude, I've actually rebuilt a few brake calipers over my time working on vehicles. It was about as brainless an activity as swapping out a fuse. But for some reason you like to come across in her all holier then thou.
Great. Where did you get the parts? Who do you think figured out what parts work and put together and cataloged that kit? Who reverse engineered what didn't exist or was unavailable so that it became available? Where do you suppose the parts were sourced? Who sourced them? I could write a book on all the various manners in which I've seen this "brainless activity" fucked up. I could write another book on why not to swap a fuse without lots of testing to determine why it failed in the first place....but again, ignorance is bliss.

Carry on.
 

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Great. Where did you get the parts? Who do you think figured out what parts work and put together and cataloged that kit? Who reverse engineered what didn't exist or was unavailable so that it became available? Where do you suppose the parts were sourced? Who sourced them? I could write a book on all the various manners in which I've seen this "brainless activity" fucked up. I could write another book on why not to swap a fuse without lots of testing to determine why it failed in the first place....but again, ignorance is bliss.

Carry on.
Wait. You mean the brainless activity I observed and actually did was only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to completing a task on the regular? That's crazy talk.

Since you asked, it was as easy as knowing what brake caliper I had, sourcing the parts needed through one of those 3" thick books at Napa, matching part numbers and cross referencing them against what I had/needed and what they had in stock, then maybe 20 minutes of actual work. So you see. I completely understand everything there is to know about your business. And I gotta tell yah... Not all brake caliper rebuilders are dipshits, and not all dipshits are brake caliper rebuilders....but you seem to combine those traits...

Funny how that works isn't it.
 

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Great. Where did you get the parts? Who do you think figured out what parts work and put together and cataloged that kit? Who reverse engineered what didn't exist or was unavailable so that it became available? Where do you suppose the parts were sourced? Who sourced them?
The guy at Auto Zone. I just looked at the local stores inventory online and they have all the components to do the brakes on all 3 of my vehicles, including caliper kits.


I could write a book on all the various manners in which I've seen this "brainless activity" fucked up. I could write another book on why not to swap a fuse without lots of testing to determine why it failed in the first place....but again, ignorance is bliss.

Carry on.
Pro tip: no one reads books anymore.
There is this thing called you tube where at least 5000 professionals in any given trade post “how to” videos…usually with all the little nuances that one might encounter.

What is the name of your channel?
 

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The guy at Auto Zone. I just looked at the local stores inventory online and they have all the components to do the brakes on all 3 of my vehicles, including caliper kits.



Pro tip: no one reads books anymore.
There is this thing called you tube where at least 5000 professionals in any given trade post “how to” videos…usually with all the little nuances that one might encounter.

What is the name of your channel?
Ah....so you buy your bottom of the barrel parts from autozone, get your news from memes and your technical know how from the "professionals" on youtube.

I've heard enough. You should run for president...you're clearly qualified to make the best decisions.

I don't have a youtube channel or a facebook or a instawhatever....I prefer my clientele to be better than those who play on their phone all day.
 

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I have neither TDS or TAS.

Nonsense I have a thread with Regor where I asked him and this group about this issue because I wanted to hear the local perspective and I said what happened to those guys is BS. Being deprived of due process is BS and those that suffered that should be let go.

That said some of these guys should not be let go and you know thats true.

I've demonstrated several pros and cons on the Donald in various threads, some you have agreed with me on.
Pretty sure you have attributed my post as it referring to you. It was in response to your post to the Oracle.

You have always seems pretty straight down the middle.
 
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