School me on dump trailers?

[whiteworks]

Seems like everyone is a manufacturer now and I’m smelling some bullshit. I’m guessing all these trailers are coming out of Mexico and all these “dealers” are hustling them off. Everyone I’ve spoken to is broken English and offering a title and vin but not registering them. So tax and registration isn’t included.

I don’t need the best one on the planet but I also don’t want a piece of shit. I think 10’ long with 4’ high sides would be fine. Battery is also fine.

Pic for conversation.

 

[Ultra...Good]

Make sure axles are rated to carry the load and box is sized accordingly for your use.

The one in the picture can carry a bunch of yard waste, but fill it up with gravel........

 

[Deckin Around]

Sky trailers = best bang for the buck

 

[NicPaus]

That's a POS.

I have 2 Carson 7x12 and 1 PJ 5x8. 1 I bought new in 03 and the other 2 I think 07.
I owned a 7x16 and 7x10 Carson previously.

7x12 is the perfect size ad removable wood sides. Most come with shitty tires.

A good one new is around 11-16k plus fees.

 

[hallett21]

Stick with brands like.

Carson
PJ
Big Tex
Innovative

My 12x7.5x3 innovative with 7k axles and 14k scissor lift has been bulletproof.

 

[NicPaus]

Stick with 1 that is rated 9,999 lbs or less unless you have a Class A. You can get the bigger axles. I prefer scissor hoist I have never not had mine lift even with 6 tons in it. Hoist is Rated for 18k pounds. Some claim the new telescopic lifts are the best but the portion in front would be in my way when I put things flat across the top.

 

[whiteworks]

Make sure axles are rated to carry the load and box is sized accordingly for your use.

The one in the picture can carry a bunch of yard waste, but fill it up with gravel........

It has two 5200lbs axels and is rated for 12k gvrw seems like that would handle a little more than yard waist, no?

 

[whiteworks]

Stick with 1 that is rated 9,999 lbs or less unless you have a Class A. You can get the bigger axles. I prefer scissor hoist I have never not had mine lift even with 6 tons in it. Hoist is Rated for 18k pounds. Some claim the new telescopic lifts are the best but the portion in front would be in my way when I put things flat across the top.

Explain the 9999 or less rule, why would I need a class A?

 

[whiteworks]

I think I’m okay with a harbor freight version, it’s something I’ll use a few times a year is my guess. The older I get the less shit I want to lift

 

[NicPaus]

Explain the 9999 or less rule, why would I need a class A?

If the trailer is rated for 10k or more you need a class A. Commercial truck enforcement and chp like to sit at the dumps waiting.

Not axles are created equal and cheaper trailers are lighter gauge steel. I went down that rabbit hole 20 years ago. Cheap ones were 3k. I paid for $4300 plus tax license on the Carson. It is not $11,700 plus fees new.

 

[Ultra...Good]

It has two 5200lbs axels and is rated for 12k gvrw seems like that would handle a little more than yard waist, no?

2 @ 5200 = 10400. 1600 on the tongue?

Yard waste is a relative term. Weight by volume changes the variable. 5tons of gravel or 5 tons of tree branches......

Just saying to think twice and buy once. I've never owned a D trailer but a few trucks. Low side's with removable boards helped a bunch.

 

[whiteworks]

If the trailer is rated for 10k or more you need a class A. Commercial truck enforcement and chp like to sit at the dumps waiting.

Not axles are created equal and cheaper trailers are lighter gauge steel. I went down that rabbit hole 20 years ago. Cheap ones were 3k. I paid for $4300 plus tax license on the Carson. It is not $11,700 plus fees new.

Quick search came up with this, maybe I’m reading it wrong?

A dump trailer rated over 9,999 pounds GVWR and towed by a vehicle with a combined GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more requires a Class A CDL. If the tow vehicle's GCWR is not specified by the manufacturer, a Class A CDL is required if the combined weight of the tow rig and trailer/load exceeds 26,000 pounds AND the trailer's GVWR is more than 10,000 pounds

 

[NicPaus]

Yep you want gvwr on trailer 9,999 or less and your tow vehicle less than 16k gvwr.

But if the trailer is over 10k you need class A regardless.

 

[v6toy4x]

As stated the 9,900 is one thing the other is a "scissor lift" is the way to go, the cheap dumps wont lift high enough to dump without a little reverse brake job, the scissors gets it done without any "finess" JMO

Definitely get what you pay for

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

I have had my PJ for 2 years now and it's been awesome. Never have had an issue except a few tires that needed to be replaced after picking up nails at the dump. If I could go back I would have looked around for something that's better priced like a Texas Pride or Big Tex.

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[Melloyellovector]

If buying new, you can get most manufactures to de rate it for registration. Just keep in mind where dumping. Yorba Linda loves to write tickets
i prefer 14ft, 20ft ( as in lumber and 4k material for new builds ) material can be mounted on top and not need red flags. But small enough to fit in driveways, and get as wide as your wallet can afford.
no one has ever said man I wish I didn’t have this much room in my dump trailer. Trash = time and money.

 

[DLC]

I’ve had a Carson for 20 years think it’s a 6x12 bought it for 2 k ! It’s its rated for 7 k lbs - yes it’s light duty !

My wife said I would be a Fool not to buy it for $2 k at the time….
mine is rated for 2 tons 4,000lbs in the box ( there was a sticker on it when I bought it ) my thinking is make 2 trips & don’t over load it !

12 ft long box is ideal you can load it up and not really overload it. A 14 box would be over loaded all the time even at 9999 rated lbs

I’ve demoed all my patio & walk concrete around the pool, neighbors driveway, and quite a few kitchens & bathrooms

Not to mention my commercial work demo ! It’s easy to tow and not a pain in the butt ! Mine has 6 ft tall sides! Plan to get 6 yds of mulch for my yard and also, plan to make a dump run !

I have 27 queen palm trees and trim them every 8-9 months and it works great for all that

I didn’t realize how much I would use it, it’s been an ideal work horse

 

[NicPaus]

Carson quit selling the light duty 7k ones. I asked Kevin why. Because people always overloaded them and blamed the problems on them. They are easily overloaded with dirt or concrete.

I have mentioned it before. But I let my insurance agent borrow it to gut the plaster in his old house. He told me what it cost to dump like $400 back then and I said no way that's 7 tons. He replied yeah it took my Tahoe half a block to stop and when it dumped it lifted the back of it off the ground. Over the years I blew out both those 5200lb axles and replaced them with 7k axles.
My old 16' had 8k oil bath axles and I added 4' sides so they were 6'. My F450 struggled hauling that thing loaded.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Also keep in mind trailer weight empty. My big Tex is 4k empty, plus 10k load, combined 14k +
not many trucks will tow or stop that happily

 

[DLC]

Carson quit selling the light duty 7k ones. I asked Kevin why. Because people always overloaded them and blamed the problems on them. They are easily overloaded with dirt or concrete.

I have mentioned it before. But I let my insurance agent borrow it to gut the plaster in his old house. He told me what it cost to dump like $400 back then and I said no way that's 7 tons. He replied yeah it took my Tahoe half a block to stop and when it dumped it lifted the back of it off the ground. Over the years I blew out both those 5200lb axles and replaced them with 7k axles.
My old 16' had 8k oil bath axles and I added 4' sides so they were 6'. My F450 struggled hauling that thing loaded.

that’s some serious weight !
Id rather make 2 trips and not have a potential issue

 

[NicPaus]

that’s some serious weight !
Id rather make 2 trips and not have a potential issue

I switched to 14 ply tires. That helped a lot.
When I first got 1 I was digging a basement right down the street from Chandler landfill. I would mound it as full as possible with dirt. This was when it was deep. I went to go down into the landfill and the water truck had just made a pass. The fuse blew on my trailer brakes and I locked up all 6 wheels in my dually and slid a few hundred feet to the bottom. Back then it was so steep that numerous times the loader would have to push me up and out after I dumped. The landfill guy would always tell me you are like 10 Tons way overloaded. It was $40 a load and I was trying to get my money's worth. Those loads now at CWS would be $600 a load. $60 a Ton for dirt.

I ran into the Chandler manager recently at Home depot and reminded him of those times. They moved Chandlers by Loveco and operated as a transfer station once the landfill was full. The landfill made more money each day with 3 employees compared to when they had a 100 and were selling sand rock and had a batch plant with a fleet of mixer trucks. Some days over 300 trucks dumping.

I recently drove by Loveco and it's a empty lot as well.

 

[Kenboat]

Check out B-Wise trailer from PA , the Ultimate Dump gate converts to a ramp for loading equipment.

 

[Bakotrash]

Seems like everyone is a manufacturer now and I’m smelling some bullshit. I’m guessing all these trailers are coming out of Mexico and all these “dealers” are hustling them off. Everyone I’ve spoken to is broken English and offering a title and vin but not registering them. So tax and registration isn’t included.

I don’t need the best one on the planet but I also don’t want a piece of shit. I think 10’ long with 4’ high sides would be fine. Battery is also fine.

Pic for conversation.

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That looks like a Polestar. I recently bought a 8x12x2 Polestar with 6k axles from a dealer in Williams, AZ............there are dealers on every block it seems these days, but this guy had it in stock. Not the best quality, but it was only like $6400 or something. I am not a contractor, just needed it for some concrete demo and landscape material for a couple houses I got. There are much nicer trailers out there, but for the price and what I am using it for it will be fine. I also got it with ramps so I can haul a golf cart if need be. Also, thankfully the GVW was 9998 so the permanent registration was only like $52 or something. If it is over 10k it costs like $700 in AZ.

 

[Dr Rob]

Stick with brands like.

Carson
PJ
Big Tex
Innovative

My 12x7.5x3 innovative with 7k axles and 14k scissor lift has been bulletproof.

I have a 14000 GVW Load Trail that has been bulletproof also. I haul nothing but heavy roadbase.

 

[McKay]

I've had a few dump trailers. I prefer shorter sides, 24-30" is perfect. I owned one with 4' sides and it was a pain in the ass loading it especially with a tracotor or mini excavator. Often times I like to scoop material out of mine with a mini ex and it would be extremly difficult with 4' sides. Now if you are mostly hauling yard and green waste then possibly 4' sides would be the way to go. My current one is a Walton 7x14 24" sides with 7000lb axles and a 20K scissor. It will dump 6 tons no problem, but not 7 tons. Towing it with a regular pickup is sketchy, 450 no problem at all.

 

[ltbaney1]

I think I’m okay with a harbor freight version, it’s something I’ll use a few times a year is my guess. The older I get the less shit I want to lift

im going to go against the grain here, but if you are only going to use it 2-3 times a year just rent one. when i tore all the tile and cabinets out my house when i bought it, i rented a dump trailer from home depot for a couple hundred for 2 days. dont have to store or maintain the thing. a buddy bought a dump trailer a few years ago for occasional use, every time he goes to use it, the battery is dead or it has some other problem.

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