anchors box vs slide??

[BBQ BILL]

Newbie first post slept under rds pool table once or twice. Wanted to get some feedback on what type of anchor to get for a 21 ft boat.

 

[dbx64]

Hi, it's my first post too! As for the box and slide anchor goes. It really depends on how deep and where you're trying to tie up the boat. If you're near a sandbar/shore, the slide anchor will be much better. However, if you're in the middle of the river the box anchor will surely do better. Also, the big giant screws like to tie a dog with also work extremely well.

Hope this helps.

 

[RiverDave]

Bill, slide anchor and box anchor are 2 different types of deals..

They are both made by "slide anchor"

Slide Anchor is commonly referred to as a "sand spike." Box anchor is a traditional anchor except it's folding and they hold exceptionally well for their size, and require no chain.

Typical setup would be a box anchor off the bow into the river.. Sand Spike/Slide anchor off the transom in shallower water, or on the shore with a line to the transom. This is how 95% of the boats are anchored up in Parker on a shore line.

RD

 

[mbrown2]

it would be tough to anchor a slide anchor in more than 8' of water....but go ahead and try it...

 

[Outnumbered]

I have always had both. In fact, I like to have two spikes for tricky or windy situations. Beaching in side winds or current I like to use one spike off the bow and one off the stearn on a diagonal.

 

[BajaMike]

I know the the two anchors and I have both....and you need both. But I always thought the "brand" name was confusing..Who needs and anchor that "Slides".

But both are great and I think any river boater needs both!

:thumbsup

 

[McRib]

It is my understanding that slide anchor is the name of the company that makes the box anchor and there version of the sand spike as there are 3 or more diff versions of the sand spike. The only other type of anchor I know of is the danforth type anchor which is the weird v shaped thing that is the most common amongst boaters. Obviously I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure my info is correct.

 

[McRib]

To answer ur question get the small box anchor and the small sand spike. That's all u will need for the 21 footer. Ur only delema should be polished or galvanized.

 

[gigamurph]

To answer ur question get the small box anchor and the small sand spike. That's all u will need for the 21 footer. Ur only delema should be polished or galvanized.

Not to dispute Mr. HWlaser23's advice, but I have a 17ft. and I went with one step larger on both Box and Slide Anchor than really needed for my app. Guarenteed to hold (and it has) in whatever current or bottom ya set it in and the added "size" also guarentees it will hold when you're the first one anchored and all of your "Johnny-Come-Lately", late riser friends want to tie off on your set.

Of course, if ya don't have the room to stow it, ya gotta go w/what you can.

JMO.

 

[djhartley2003]

I have both The box anchor and and shore spike and they work great. I would like to have a second anchor just in case. I found this picture and I'm not sure who makes it or where to go so I can see one but it looks like it might be a cool second anchor. Any body know anything about these anchor's.

 

[RiverDave]

I believe Dana marine products makes those anchors.. (the triangle folding ones).

RD

 

[TPC]

I have both The box anchor and and shore spike and they work great. I would like to have a second anchor just in case. I found this picture and I'm not sure who makes it or where to go so I can see one but it looks like it might be a cool second anchor. Any body know anything about these anchor's.
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I believe Dana marine products makes those anchors.. (the triangle folding ones).

RD

Yes, that's the Dana, built off a Swedish patent according to the owner of slide anchor. I think his name is Greg or Craig, I can't remember.

Gregs design, the box anchor, comes in three sizes, the biggest being the best overall, the medium for up to 22' boats but some situations that's a stretch, the smallest great for your aft anchor at the sand bar.

You don't need a chain with them, but anchored south of the launch ramp at Emerald Cove, 6' of heavy chain works much better on the mid-size box anchor with the past boats I've owned since it's intro.

Greg told me his original idea was for the spike to be stabbed in the middle of the box anchor. But then he figured that the box anchors claws, if placed right on his design, do all the work anyway.

Seems all anchors will give you some slip & drift at first. My experiences with the box is it's the best thing going, ya just have to tune it with chain, or get the bigger version until ya get the best bite.

The farther out your bow line to the box anchor the better they work. Within reason.
Another cool thing about them is you simply get right above the box anchor for easy removal.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

ya just have to tune it with chain, or get the bigger version until ya get the best bite.

The farther out your bow line to the box anchor the better they work. Within reason.
Another cool thing about them is you simply get right above the box anchor for easy removal.

I agree with the chain and also going up a size..

 

[oldschool]

Get a Danik Hook from them also, it's a whole lot easier than tieing knots.

 

[TPC]

Get a Danik Hook from them also, it's a whole lot easier than tieing knots.

Doesn't she drive Indy Cars?

 

[HALLETT BOY]

I think when ever business gets slow ,someone comes on these forums and starts asking about box anchors ...maybe the owner ????:headscratch:

 

[RiverDave]

I think when ever business gets slow ,someone comes on these forums and starts asking about box anchors ...maybe the owner ????:headscratch:

BBQ Bill definately isn't the owner of slide anchor.. LOL Just a guy that likes to BBQ, and have beers. I went to a bon jovi concert with him a few months back incidentally.

RD

 

[TPC]

I think when ever business gets slow ,someone comes on these forums and starts asking about box anchors ...maybe the owner ????:headscratch:

 

[ekbearly]

I have both the box anchor and the Dana anchor. They both are great. The Dana one seems to hold even better. The smaller spikes in it grip immediately allowing the larger ones to slowly grab hold of the bottom.

 

[TPC]

Hi, it's my first post too! As for the box and slide anchor goes. It really depends on how deep and where you're trying to tie up the boat. If you're near a sandbar/shore, the slide anchor will be much better. However, if you're in the middle of the river the box anchor will surely do better. Also, the big giant screws like to tie a dog with also work extremely well.

Hope this helps.

Is your name Craig or Greg?

 

[oldschool]

Doesn't she drive Indy Cars?

and dem dar Nascars tu.

 

[76 Hondo]

BBQ Bill definately isn't the owner of slide anchor.. LOL Just a guy that likes to BBQ, and have beers. I went to a bon jovi concert with him a few months back incidentally.

RD

I went to a Bon Jovi concert with him? WTF

 

[Seamonkeys]

Not to dispute Mr. HWlaser23's advice, but I have a 17ft. and I went with one step larger on both Box and Slide Anchor than really needed for my app. Guarenteed to hold (and it has) in whatever current or bottom ya set it in and the added "size" also guarentees it will hold when you're the first one anchored and all of your "Johnny-Come-Lately", late riser friends want to tie off on your set.

Of course, if ya don't have the room to stow it, ya gotta go w/what you can.

JMO.

I agree. I have a 21 foot boat and the small box anchor wasn't enough. Thankfully, the noce people at Spanky's allowed me to return it and get the next larger size.

 

[McRib]

I was confused for a bit there. I looked at slideanchors web site and realized there are 4 diff sizes. Baby small large and extra large. (When I bought mine they had 2 sizes. Small and large). Baby is for PWC's small is for 18 to 30fters large is for up to 40fters and extra large is for house boats and n e thing over 40ft. I have a 23ft boat and have had the small box anchor for 5 years I've used it havasu mead and Parker and once in the ocean. It's never failed in n e way on me. I believe all of u that say uv had to go bigger but I can't understand y. My boat weighs like 4k and the small box which ain't so small btw holds me in current or stagnant water. My "small" box anchor in it's ready position is about 1 ft square maybe slightly bigger. I can't believe that's not enough for some of the 17 and 18 footers out there. To each there own. Ur the capt of ur tub and it's all about what works for u

 

[TPC]

I've had them get away from me, but probably any anchor would have it the same situation.

The strong winds, the bobbing of the boat in the killer rollers, the current of the river working, the level of the river rising and falling it can add up.

It seems from my beach chair observations when a MFSOB of a windstorm suddenly hits,, the water speed from the Parker dams release slows way down.
Perhaps it's to help boaters, damfino.

Tieing the aft line to a palm tree (in addition to the spike) has saved many a boaters ass on the Emerald & Echo lodge beaches.

At night I sleep easy knowing the boat is on the trailer.

 

[milkmoney]

I've had them get away from me, but probably any anchor would have it the same situation.

The strong winds, the bobbing of the boat in the killer rollers, the current of the river working, the level of the river rising and falling it can add up.

It seems from my beach chair observations when a MFSOB of a windstorm suddenly hits,, the water speed from the Parker dams release slows way down.
Perhaps it's to help boaters, damfino.

Tieing the aft line to a palm tree (in addition to the spike) has saved many a boaters ass on the Emerald & Echo lodge beaches.

At night I sleep easy knowing the boat is on the trailer.

i have left my boat in the water one time over night and didnt sleep good, so i am with ya, that its on the trailer at the end of the day, plus fighting over the area to get a spot on that crowded beach aint worth it..

 

[hapetrals]

Get a Danik Hook from them also, it's a whole lot easier than tieing knots.

agree about the hook.arty2: we own 2 of them docking at roadrunner and had one fall in the water, paid a kid $$ to dive and get it back for us.

 

[gigamurph]

I was confused for a bit there. I looked at slideanchors web site and realized there are 4 diff sizes. Baby small large and extra large. (When I bought mine they had 2 sizes. Small and large). Baby is for PWC's small is for 18 to 30fters large is for up to 40fters and extra large is for house boats and n e thing over 40ft. I have a 23ft boat and have had the small box anchor for 5 years I've used it havasu mead and Parker and once in the ocean. It's never failed in n e way on me. I believe all of u that say uv had to go bigger but I can't understand y. My boat weighs like 4k and the small box which ain't so small btw holds me in current or stagnant water. My "small" box anchor in it's ready position is about 1 ft square maybe slightly bigger. I can't believe that's not enough for some of the 17 and 18 footers out there. To each there own. Ur the capt of ur tub and it's all about what works for u

It's like I said earlier; it's not about just anchorin' your boat. It's also about all your "late riser friends" who tie off on your set too. Too each their own but I've always been a "Boy Scout" and like to prepared and I don't like the feel of havin' to tell peops that they can't tie off on my set if I can help it. I've had as many as 4-5 boats tied off on my "medium" w/no problems. :thumbsup

 

[McRib]

It's like I said earlier; it's not about just anchorin' your boat. It's also about all your "late riser friends" who tie off on your set too. Too each their own but I've always been a "Boy Scout" and like to prepared and I don't like the feel of havin' to tell peops that they can't tie off on my set if I can help it. I've had as many as 4-5 boats tied off on my "medium" w/no problems. :thumbsup

Yeah I hear u on the Johnny come latelys. I've got plenty of those types of friends. My "small" box will hold 3 23ft boats or less in tandem in a current at the sandbar on havi. In steamboat I've had 7 on my 1 anchor with all of us side tied. Nowadays if I become more than a flotilla of 4 I'll make someone throw there's for the just in case factor

 

[jetboatmatt]

I have a 24 footer and it holds it fine!! The trick is to put about 20 feet or so of line in front. It will not budge!! Been in front of Riverlodge in high water with a wind storm held the whole time. I was watching it every second just in case. Two sand spikes at lower sand bar work great!!! Danic hook is awesome worth the money!!! goodluck!!

 

[milkmoney]

Yeah I hear u on the Johnny come latelys. I've got plenty of those types of friends. My "small" box will hold 3 23ft boats or less in tandem in a current at the sandbar on havi. In steamboat I've had 7 on my 1 anchor with all of us side tied. Nowadays if I become more than a flotilla of 4 I'll make someone throw there's for the just in case factor

hey i am always early or on time.dickhead

 

[McRib]

hey i am always early or on time.dickhead

lol u and ur guilty conscience

quit

 

[milkmoney]

lol u and ur guilty conscience

quit
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lori thinks that is funny, river rookie, hey where is capt'n dumbass

 

[McRib]

lori thinks that is funny, river rookie, hey where is capt'n dumbass

shes in the livin room eatin dinner. u goin out this weekend right???

 

[milkmoney]

shes in the livin room eatin dinner. u goin out this weekend right???

ya..

 

[Nord]

Where is the most reasonable place to buy a box style anchor?

 

[milkmoney]

Where is the most reasonable place to buy a box style anchor?

i think most places are priced real close, for what i have seen. out in the parker/ havasu area..if its in cali, not sure.

 

[McRib]

Where is the most reasonable place to buy a box style anchor?

U can buy direct from there web site I believe. West marine sells them also as well as most boat mfg service delta.

 

[NdaWind]

I use both spike and box anchors instead of chain you can geta a short bungee to tie to your box anchor then tie your anchor line to the other end of the bungee. This allows for the boat to ride up and down with the boat wakes without pulling up the anchor. A nice side effect especially where the water rises and lowers overnight you can put it out far enough to keep the prop off the bottom at low water levels, at high water levels you can grab the shore line(sand spike) rope and pull it back to shore for loading up and such.

 

[oldschool]

I use both spike and box anchors instead of chain you can geta a short bungee to tie to your box anchor then tie your anchor line to the other end of the bungee. This allows for the boat to ride up and down with the boat wakes without pulling up the anchor. A nice side effect especially where the water rises and lowers overnight you can put it out far enough to keep the prop off the bottom at low water levels, at high water levels you can grab the shore line(sand spike) rope and pull it back to shore for loading up and such.

Do you use an "Anchor Buddy"? They work pretty slick.

 

[NdaWind]

When my dad was alive we sailed a lot up and down CA coast and would use an anchor buddy all the time. I haven't used one at the river as they are more for deep water where you need lots of scope