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OEM. Used to be a wix guy but not liking what I'm seeing from them lately.

Lots of Chinese made wix these days. No thanks. I'd sooner trust a roll of paper towels than a chicom filter, regardless of the name on it....
 
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Yeah....I always use the shit oil filters
 
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NAPA Gold for Chevelle.
WIX XP for Sierra
AC Delco PF-52 Classic for S10
FoMoCo for Focus
Honda OEM for Accord
Mercury for Boat engine

All the above are still USA made (at last purchase).
 

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raycor, baldwin, k&n, and wix racing/gold
 

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The OP video uses visual inspection to reach conclusions, which isn't a reliable way to determine actual performance.

It's much more important to see the specs on the pressure drop across a filter, cross section permeability of the media, area of the filter media expressed in square inches, particle capture ability expressed in microns, capture efficiency expressed in percentages, and the Beta rating.

These specs are sometimes difficult to find. They aren't printed on the filter box, and the manufacturer's website may not publish them. Wix has good information on their website. This link gives info on the Wix 51515, a common unit for most early Ford applications.

http://m.wixfilters.com/Search/PartDetail?PartID=193964 &Source=WESR

This video gives definitions of the standards and provides helpful information.

 
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OEM. Used to be a wix guy but not liking what I'm seeing from them lately.

Lots of Chinese made wix these days. No thanks. I'd sooner trust a roll of paper towels than a chicom filter, regardless of the name on it....

The Wix cartridge filters are Cheenwa.

Every canister is still MADE IN THE USA. Wix Affina.

Fram Ultra and the new Fram HP series are also very good filters.

The new Fram HP filters are better than the Wix racing filters.

Most every other filter brand is made by Champion Labs. Royal Purple and K & N for example.
 

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The Wix cartridge filters are Cheenwa.

Every canister is still MADE IN THE USA. Wix Affina.

Fram Ultra and the new Fram HP series are also very good filters.

The new Fram HP filters are better than the Wix racing filters.

Most every other filter brand is made by Champion Labs. Royal Purple and K & N for example.


You are correct. Now that I think about it all of the chicom marked wix filters I have seen have been cartridges.
 

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He only really reviewed 3 filters.

Bosch=Purolator
Wix=Napa Gold
and Fram.

I typically run Wix or Wix XP for everything.
 

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That's why Fram are only "A dollar 3-80"

now use OEM, Bosch (VW) or Wix
 

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The OP video uses visual inspection to reach conclusions, which isn't a reliable way to determine actual performance.

It's much more important to see the specs on the pressure drop across a filter, cross section permeability of the media, area of the filter media expressed in square inches, particle capture ability expressed in microns, capture efficiency expressed in percentages, and the Beta rating.

These specs are sometimes difficult to find. They aren't printed on the filter box, and the manufacturer's website may not publish them. Wix has good information on their website. This link gives info on the Wix 51515, a common unit for most early Ford applications.

http://m.wixfilters.com/Search/PartDetail?PartID=193964 &Source=WESR

This video gives definitions of the standards and provides helpful information.

I agree! You need the data!
 

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I've been using the WIX 51620 since I bought this boat. The WIX web site lists Mercruiser HP425 through HP800 under applications.
 

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Ended up buying a filter cutter recently. bought mine on Amazon, looks like the same one but came out a dollar or two cheaper when final.

I am cutting fuel filters and such for the boat. Using a cut off wheel would have been ......... Exciting.
 

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after having engine failure on my 5.4 3v I only use motorcraft filters and oil now on that car. theres a ton of ford techs out there that swear by em and i dont really feel like building another engine. i will say now with quite a bit of mileage on it I could pull a valve cover and it still looks brand new in there.
 

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after having engine failure on my 5.4 3v I only use motorcraft filters and oil now on that car. theres a ton of ford techs out there that swear by em and i dont really feel like building another engine. i will say now with quite a bit of mileage on it I could pull a valve cover and it still looks brand new in there.

Exactly. Motorcraft filters are very good.
 

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For the uninformed, the race filters actually filter less.. That is how they allow more flow. Not a big deal as long as you change the oil and filter often. Not needed in a non race application though.

Micron rating for the 51060R is 65. It is 21 for the standard 51060 and 51060XP.

I run the 51060XP on my boat.
 
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For the uninformed, the race filters actually filter less.. That is how they allow more flow. Not a big deal as long as you change the oil and filter often. Not needed in a non race application though.

Micron rating for the 51060R is 65. It is 21 for the standard 51060 and 51060XP.

I run the 51060XP on my boat.
Yes but on a boat where you don't have to deal a shit ton of debris in the air around you and like you said change oil very frequently and also run a high volume oil pump they are the cats meaow!
 

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Yes but on a boat where you don't have to deal a shit ton of debris in the air around you and like you said change oil very frequently and also run a high volume oil pump they are the cats meaow!

Debris in the air should not really translate to debris in the oil. Any modern boat engine under 600 HP or so does not really NEED a race filter. If you have a custom engine build, or a lot of power, sure.

In short, I would not go throw a race filter on my 496 HO and run it for 50-100 hours. You don't really gain anything.
 

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For the uninformed, the race filters actually filter less.. That is how they allow more flow. Not a big deal as long as you change the oil and filter often. Not needed in a non race application though.

Micron rating for the 51060R is 65. It is 21 for the standard 51060 and 51060XP.

I run the 51060XP on my boat.

Interesting that the 51620 that WIX recommends for the Mercruiser HP engines is rated at 31 microns. I guess it flows a little more than the 51060 but still filters better than the 51060R. Also both 51620 and 51060 both have the same Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM.
 

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Interesting that the 51620 that WIX recommends for the Mercruiser HP engines is rated at 31 microns. I guess it flows a little more than the 51060 but still filters better than the 51060R. Also both 51620 and 51060 both have the same Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM.

A person could go nuts picking an oil filter :)
 

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For the uninformed, the race filters actually filter less.. That is how they allow more flow. Not a big deal as long as you change the oil and filter often. Not needed in a non race application though.

Micron rating for the 51060R is 65. It is 21 for the standard 51060 and 51060XP.

I run the 51060XP on my boat.

I just used a picture but I run the Wix 51222R which is the replacement for the Fram HP6. Both are high volume and not anything you’d see on a stock Mercruiser application. I have 110lbs plus of pressure cold with the dry sump using Brad Penn green 50wt.


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I just used a picture but I run the Wix 51222R which is the replacement for the Fram HP6. Both are high volume and not anything you’d see on a stock Mercruiser application. I have 110lbs plus of pressure cold with the dry sump using Brad Penn green 50wt.


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Go back to the Fram HP. They redesigned them in 17. Better media, stronger case, end caps, and bypass.
 

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Debris in the air should not really translate to debris in the oil. Any modern boat engine under 600 HP or so does not really NEED a race filter. If you have a custom engine build, or a lot of power, sure.

In short, I would not go throw a race filter on my 496 HO and run it for 50-100 hours. You don't really gain anything.

Always about the application and intended use.

I run the 51060XP on my 496 also.
 

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Go back to the Fram HP. They redesigned them in 17. Better media, stronger case, end caps, and bypass.

Interesting. [emoji106]


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Last time I ran a Fram filter I ended up with noisy lifters and a shit load of debris in my oil from the filter deterioration after one season of use. Never again ..
 

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Debris in the air should not really translate to debris in the oil. Any modern boat engine under 600 HP or so does not really NEED a race filter. If you have a custom engine build, or a lot of power, sure.

In short, I would not go throw a race filter on my 496 HO and run it for 50-100 hours. You don't really gain anything.
Race filters are made for high flow and also need to be changed much more frequently. What I meant using on a boat is you are less likely to be habitually in a filthy environment. The water usually takes that sort of issue away.
However it is still important to change the filter frequently because of the breakdown of engine components such as main bearings etc... And being a race driver you already know this.
A race filter is only designed to filter out the bigger shit and let a higher volume of oil to pass along. Thus having to change the filter more frequently and adding longevity to the bottom end while constantly opening up the valve covers for adjustment and contaminating the engine.
 

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I run the WIX5122r or the framHP6 like like outdrive one, usually comes down to which one i can find in Parker.
 
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