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[BajaMike]

This “Real ID” thing is a good idea. But the best “Real ID” is a passport. You can get one faster than many of the states “Real ID” drivers licenses. With a passport you can fly and travel anywhere in the world. With a ”Passport Card” you can travel anywhere in the U.S., Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean.
Join the real world.

 

[Angler]

I'll get my Real ID, when my current license expires in 2029.
Passport valid till 2033. No need to rush it.

 

[Backlash]

Had our idiot politicians NOT handed out driver's licenses to every Tom, Dick and Harry........this wouldn't even be an issue. But since they did, now WE have to resort to paying more money just to be issued a "Real ID." Nothing but another bad idea followed up by more taxpayer spending to fix the mess they created.......

What's next? A "Truly Real ID?"

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I just use my passport. But what gets me is I can't present my passport at the DMV to get a real ID, I have to bring a couple of old utility bills and a SS card. WTF?

Remember, this was all due to the the PATRIOT act from 20 years ago.

 

[CarolynandBob]

I do not understand why in 20 years states did not just require it when you renewed your license? I have had mine since 2016 when we became FL residents.

I have had a passport since I got out of the Navy in 88

 

[caribbean20]

I do not understand why in 20 years states did not just require it when you renewed your license? I have had mine since 2016 when we became FL residents.

I have had a passport since I got out of the Navy in 88

California being California.

 

[17 10 Flat]

I don't understand why people wait to the last minute. About 8 years ago looked at the DMV site for what we needed, gathered the documents went down and got our licenses. Our next renewal can be done by mail. Now we have a younger looking picture on our licenses.....
Sounds like someone going to the box office the day of a Taylor Swift concert and complaining there are no tickets.

 

[Backlash]

I don't understand why people wait to the last minute. About 8 years ago looked at the DMV site for what we needed, gathered the documents went down and got our licenses. Our next renewal can be done by mail. Now we have a younger looking picture on our licenses.....
Sounds like someone going to the box office the day of a Taylor Swift concert and complaining there are no tickets.

So, you line up early Mr. Swifty??

 

[angiebaby]

I just use my passport. But what gets me is I can't present my passport at the DMV to get a real ID, I have to bring a couple of old utility bills and a SS card. WTF?

Remember, this was all due to the the PATRIOT act from 20 years ago.

Are you sure? It's not difficult to counterfeit an SS card, so if that is allowed then the real ID is complete B.S. The Montana website lists a passport as acceptable, but does not mention an SS card. If you're going to get one, I'd verify exactly what is required before you go. I used my passport. This is from our MVD website.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

The fact is you don't need the Real ID if you don't travel via Commercial airline or have to access federal facilities. The media isn't making it sound that way but that is why it isn't mandated for all licenses.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Are you sure? It's not difficult to counterfeit an SS card, so if that is allowed then the real ID is complete B.S. The Montana website lists a passport as acceptable, but does not mention an SS card. If you're going to get one, I'd verify exactly what is required before you go. I used my passport. This is from our MVD website.

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My point being if I have a passport why do I need to otherwise "prove" who I am to the state?

 

[Orange Juice]

There are more than 200 types of mental illnesses. If you travel on the airlines, and haven’t gotten this done, please seek help.

 

[angiebaby]

I don't think you need to prove it otherwise. You can use your passport as an ID. You choose which you would like to use in order to fly: a real ID or a passport. You can also use your passport to get a real ID if you don't want to carry around the passport.

I thought the point of your post was that you couldn't use a passport to get the real ID, but you could use an SS card. My point was that I don't think that's correct.

But no. You don't need the Real ID to fly. A passport still works just fine.

edit: apparently different states have different requirements. That makes zero sense.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Are you sure? It's not difficult to counterfeit an SS card, so if that is allowed then the real ID is complete B.S. The Montana website lists a passport as acceptable, but does not mention an SS card. If you're going to get one, I'd verify exactly what is required before you go. I used my passport. This is from our MVD website.

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To your point, I have denied employment to a few over the last year, they have their "real ID" but when payroll company runs their social through the data base, which is now a requirement of the employer, it is fake! So you are absolutely correct!

 

[530RL]

I do not understand why in 20 years states did not just require it when you renewed your license? I have had mine since 2016 when we became FL residents.

I have had a passport since I got out of the Navy in 88

In Arizona, your drivers license is good until you are 65. They basically do not expire for decades.

But you can also get a real ID at third party shops so I am not real sure how much “more secure” they are than a regular drivers license.

 

[bilz]

I don't have a passport because I don't intend on leaving the country. I got my real ID last year at a regular renewal time. I was hoping we'd get a POTUS to end all this dipshitery.

 

[boatpi]

Just a note on passport since myself and a few of her travel, the world is the passport card is good and most North America areas close to the United States but there are many countries that do not accept a passport card. It must be your passport.

In addition to that many foreign nations require your passport to be valid for six months prior to the expiration date.

And lastly, if you do travel now and then out of the country, I highly recommend you apply for a global entry. It’s good for I think 3 to 5 years and when re-entering the United States it’s retina ID rarely a question and you walk through immigration and customs as opposed to sometimes waiting for an hour or two

 

[mesquito_creek]

In Arizona, your drivers license is good until you are 65. They basically do not expire for decades.

Even though they don’t expire, they require you to update the photo every 10 years. If you have to go to the MVD ( like I have) then that is almost the same as expired.

 

[mesquito_creek]

I have the global entry / sentri card which is a real id. So no need to carry a passport book style id. The card is just as easy as my license, with all the advantages of expedited entry anywhere in the USA.

 

[j21black]

I've had my STAR for several years - I want to say since 2020 - It added maybe 2 minutes to the process the first time. And when I renewed my DL last year no added time.

I honestly don't see what the big deal is and why people think it is so difficult to obtain.

Having said that, I have a Passport as well just renewed last year - Only took 9 days to get it not using an expedited service so that quick was a bit of a surprise.

 

[oldman]

I had a TWIC card for years to get us into the ports, It's not as good a s a passport, but it did let me in the express lanes for homeland security checkpoints at the airports for domestic flights, It was a nice perk.

TWIC® | Transportation Security Administration

The Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC®) is required for workers who need access to secure areas of maritime facilities and vessels under the Maritime Transportation Security Act. TSA conducts a security threat assessment to determine eligibility and issues the credential...

www.tsa.gov

 

[530RL]

Even though they don’t expire, they require you to update the photo every 10 years. If you have to go to the MVD ( like I have) then that is almost the same as expired.

Wow, mine is 20 years old?

 

[mesquito_creek]

Wow, mine is 20 years old?

Maybe they “grandfathered” you in… LOL! Both my wife and I have had to retake photos, but we are only “senior citizens” at Valle Luna on Tuesdays where 55 years old qualifies as senior… correction, it’s every 12 years.

When will I need to update my photo? | Department of Transportation

You are required to update your photo every 12 years. At the end of 12 years, a notice will be sent to you requesting that you visit a driver license facility for a new photo and replacement driver license.

azdot.gov

You are required to update your photo every 12 years. At the end of 12 years, a notice will be sent to you requesting that you visit a driver license facility for a new photo and replacement driver license

 

[CLCookie]

If you don't have a real ID by now, you obviously don't travel by plane. A passport works, but it is bigger and I would rather not carry it around all of the time when I travel domestically.

Can't even believe this is a topic, I thought only Liberals were crying about this

 

[thmterry]

My current AZ real ID drivers license is only good for 8 years. My previous AZ dl was good forever it seemed.

 

[caribbean20]

I have the global entry / sentri card which is a real id. So no need to carry a passport book style id. The card is just as easy as my license, with all the advantages of expedited entry anywhere in the USA.

I did not know that, thanks for the info. My son has a CA drivers license and was one of the lazy ones. I’ll tell him to put Global Entry in his wallet.

Geez, the shit you learn here. Guess it’s not all about beer, boobs and HP after all

 

[Ziggy]

Just a note on passport since myself and a few of her travel, the world is the passport card is good and most North America areas close to the United States but there are many countries that do not accept a passport card. It must be your passport.

In addition to that many foreign nations require your passport to be valid for six months prior to the expiration date.

And lastly, if you do travel now and then out of the country, I highly recommend you apply for a global entry. It’s good for I think 3 to 5 years and when re-entering the United States it’s retina ID rarely a question and you walk through immigration and customs as opposed to sometimes waiting for an hour or two

This was the year of renewals for us. We'd done the real ID deal years ago with normal renewal so we were good there.
We did our passports & global entry renewals all on-line. Amazingly simple & quick. I had my new passport less than 10 days later, wifes came a week later.

 

[Bobby V]

In Arizona, your drivers license is good until you are 65.

Same here in CA. I turn 65 in July. I got my renewal info in the mail 3 weeks ago. Renewed my Real ID online and got my new DL in the mail last week. Same info / picture as before on it. It’s good for another 5 years.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

If you don't have a real ID by now, you obviously don't travel by plane. A passport works, but it is bigger and I would rather not carry it around all of the time when I travel domestically.

Can't even believe this is a topic, I thought only Liberals were crying about this

Well for one, here in Oregon, the "real ID" costs more so I see it as just another money grab. I already have a passport that you can't even feel its in your back pocket when you carry it. So there is that

 

[River Dirt 2]

I did not know that, thanks for the info. My son has a CA drivers license and was one of the lazy ones. I’ll tell him to put Global Entry in his wallet.

Geez, the shit you learn here. Guess it’s not all about beer, boobs and HP after all

Once you have Global Entry you don’t need to carry the card.

 

[Bigbore500r]

I don't understand why people wait to the last minute. About 8 years ago looked at the DMV site for what we needed, gathered the documents went down and got our licenses. Our next renewal can be done by mail. Now we have a younger looking picture on our licenses.....
Sounds like someone going to the box office the day of a Taylor Swift concert and complaining there are no tickets.

Swiftie - noted

 

[Sleek-Jet]

If you don't have a real ID by now, you obviously don't travel by plane. A passport works, but it is bigger and I would rather not carry it around all of the time when I travel domestically.

Can't even believe this is a topic, I thought only Liberals were crying about this

I fly 8-12 times a year, passport is in my carry on "go bag" with all the other shit I travel with these days,.LOL. Really isn't inconvenient.

 

[Racey]

I don't think you need to prove it otherwise. You can use your passport as an ID. You choose which you would like to use in order to fly: a real ID or a passport. You can also use your passport to get a real ID if you don't want to carry around the passport.

I thought the point of your post was that you couldn't use a passport to get the real ID, but you could use an SS card. My point was that I don't think that's correct.

But no. You don't need the Real ID to fly. A passport still works just fine.

edit: apparently different states have different requirements. That makes zero sense.

It's a total cluster fuck, i went through 3 license expirations before finally getting one last year...

In nevada you have to use all of the following:

passport or federal photo id
Social security card, or 1099 with your full SS showing
2 bills with your address from either a bank or utility company...

They hand out licenses to illegals like popcorn out here and registering to vote is 100% on the honor system with no verification.

 

[boatpi]

And with Global Entry you almost always get TSA pre.

 

[Ziggy]

Same here in CA. I turn 65 in July. I got my renewal info in the mail 3 weeks ago. Renewed my Real ID online and got my new DL in the mail last week. Same info / picture as before on it. It’s good for another 5 years.

My wifes renewal(already has Real ID) said she needed to go in person to Dmv to renew. Getting an appointment was a stupid long wait so on a whim she tried to renew online and it went through no problem. New DL in mailbox within a week.

 

[2Driver]

Had our idiot politicians NOT handed out driver's licenses to every Juan........this wouldn't even be an issue.

Fixed

 

[FROGMAN524]

Had our idiot politicians NOT handed out driver's licenses to every Tom, Dick and Harry........this wouldn't even be an issue. But since they did, now WE have to resort to paying more money just to be issued a "Real ID." Nothing but another bad idea followed up by more taxpayer spending to fix the mess they created.......

What's next? A "Truly Real ID?"

You mean every Jose, Julio and Juan

 

[wzuber]

Had our idiot politicians NOT handed out driver's licenses to every Tom, Dick and Harry........this wouldn't even be an issue. But since they did, now WE have to resort to paying more money just to be issued a "Real ID." Nothing but another bad idea followed up by more taxpayer spending to fix the mess they created.......

What's next? A "Truly Real ID?"

Right? And after that it will be a " we swear this is the last real I'd you ever need ID" Trust us"
I just completed my real ID application process @ west covina dmv. Cost $36.00
It took 1 hr. To get in line ( approx. 100 peeps ahead of me.) and complete the whole process. All required docs uploaded to DMV site prior to arrival. I was there for a salvage title ( aka revival) process for my truck anyway so kill 2 birds n 1 shot. No appointment but loaded all my docs online over the weekend. The appointment system online was inoperable. Probably full up with the deadline. They were very well organized and on it. In less then 10 min. I went from 100 peeps outside to inside and all docs verifiied. Waited inside maybe 30 min. Until my # was called. 15ish minutes to process all docs...birth certificate & 2 utility bills, pay the nice lady and scram out to the next process. That went quickly too. Again 1 hr. From the time I contacted an intake personell, showed him my docs, explained my dealio was an insurance buy back and they were to have already sent the docs etc. In approx a month ago. Again, waited maybe 30ish minutes until my # was called and that process too was completed w/in 1 hrs total time. Now I just need to get a smog cert & DMV certified safety inspection this afternoon at Baja auto repair in pomona and I will be complete with returning my GMC 2500HD back into service. Then I can sell my 2004 chevy 2500 HD LB7 and get on with life.
I'm very pleased with the W.C. DMV and how well run they are there. I hope they're the model for the remainder of the DMV system. We'll all have 1 less thing to hate the govt for.

 

[Albert]

You can also use your global entry

 

[Orange Juice]

Same here in CA. I turn 65 in July. I got my renewal info in the mail 3 weeks ago. Renewed my Real ID online and got my new DL in the mail last week. Same info / picture as before on it. It’s good for another 5 years.

Will they make you take the driving test again? Is there a boat trailer endorsement as well?

 

[stephenkatsea]

I had a TWIC card for years to get us into the ports, It's not as good a s a passport, but it did let me in the express lanes for homeland security checkpoints at the airports for domestic flights, It was a nice perk.

TWIC® | Transportation Security Administration

The Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC®) is required for workers who need access to secure areas of maritime facilities and vessels under the Maritime Transportation Security Act. TSA conducts a security threat assessment to determine eligibility and issues the credential...

www.tsa.gov

TWIC cards are/were a joke. What we used to call a back ground investigation didn’t happen. It was a friggin’ joke. Appears it was/is intended to allow non US citizen truck drivers to drive on some U.S. docks. A division of TSA? Follow the money. You’ll find IndentaGO and Idemia. Some portions of those corps aren’t even US owned.

 

[oldman]

TWIC cards are/were a joke. What we used to call a back ground investigation didn’t happen. It was a friggin’ joke. Appears it was/is intended to allow non US citizen truck drivers to drive on some U.S. docks. A division of TSA? Follow the money. You’ll find IndentaGO and Idemia. Some portions of those corps aren’t even US owned.

We had been going in and out of the Long Beach port forever, never stopped us, Then They started giving us grief about access, we countered with Do you want lights? and that worked awhile, then they stopped us completely, we all ended up in down town Long beach getting cards.

My first comment was to ask if all those truck drivers had been vetted? We were assured they were, I highly doubted it.

It goes right along with the clean energy trucks they drive 300 yards outside the port then let the hammered old rigs actually deliver good to shipping docks. But the ports are green.

All I know was as long as I had it I didn't get the TSA shakedown at the airport.
I know now you can Pre qualify? IDK, my dad flies international regularly and he touted about it.

TSA -PFF

 

[stephenkatsea]

Follow the money. In a true security clearance, that is not the case. At least it wasn’t. Who knows now? But, there are many misconceptions when it comes to security clearances etc. As previously mentioned, TWICs were available at that building in downtown Long Beach. TWIC stands for Transportation Worker Identification Card.

 

[rivermobster]

If you don't have a real ID by now, you obviously don't travel by plane. A passport works, but it is bigger and I would rather not carry it around all of the time when I travel domestically.

Can't even believe this is a topic, I thought only Liberals were crying about this

Seems to me ..

You're the one crying cause a passport is Just to big and heavy to carry around?

Oh the horror!

@JUSTWANNARACE is right. It's nothing but a money grab. Fuck that real id, and the plane that it flew in on!

 

[DLC]

Had our idiot politicians NOT handed out driver's licenses to every Tom, Dick and Harry........this wouldn't even be an issue. But since they did, now WE have to resort to paying more money just to be issued a "Real ID." Nothing but another bad idea followed up by more taxpayer spending to fix the mess they created.......

What's next? A "Truly Real ID?"

Why wouldn’t the come up with a Semi Real ID for all the non authorized….

Ive lived at the same house and same info since my 1st DL in 1986 ….

Now I need a water bill to prove who I am ….

Dont forget Needles DMV - walk in walk out !

 

[DLC]

You mean every Jose, Julio and Juan

Jose A, Jose B & Jose C !

 

[Bajastu]

I fly a ton for work and hauling around a passport for domestic flights seems stupid. I’ve had a real ID ever since they came out. Along with my TSA precheck, flights are easy.

The only thing I did different when my TSA precheck was up for renewal was to get a Sentri card. That includes global entry and a known traveler number. It’s the best of both worlds including driving through a Sentri lane comming back from Mexico. FYI the TJ airport along with the CBX is the cats meow to travel anywhere south of the border. The cost of the flights is three times cheaper using Aero Mexico and Volaris. The Sentri card makes comming back a breeze.

I’ll be in South Korea and Thailand this month and that’s where a passport is needed. Not for domestic flights.

I’ve had Real IDs in CA and AZ. By far AZ was the easiest process.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

I fly a ton for work and hauling around a passport for domestic flights seems stupid. I’ve had a real ID ever since they came out. Along with my TSA precheck, flights are easy.

The only thing I did different when my TSA precheck was up for renewal was to get a Sentri card. That includes global entry and a known traveler number. It’s the best of both worlds including driving through a Sentri lane comming back from Mexico. FYI the TJ airport along with the CBX is the cats meow to travel anywhere south of the border. The cost of the flights is three times cheaper using Aero Mexico and Volaris. The Sentri card makes comming back a breeze.

I’ll be in South Korea and Thailand this month and that’s where a passport is needed. Not for domestic flights.

I’ve had Real IDs in CA and AZ. By far AZ was the easiest process.

Explain to me why I all of a sudden have to have a real ID to fly domestic and my current ID won't work as it has for many years? What is the difference? No one has been able to give me a straight answer. And don't tell me it is more secure and federally recognized because that is the only answers I've got, even from the dmv. If that is the answer see post 14. If it's so much different and better then why do I still need a passport to fly internationally? Shouldn't this "federally recognized" "real ID" be sufficient? Yes I will end up getting one when I have to renew but it makes zero sense! JMO

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Explain to me why I all of a sudden have to have a real ID to fly domestic and my current ID won't work as it has for many years? What is the difference? No one has been able to give me a straight answer. And don't tell me it is more secure and federally recognized because that is the only answers I've got, even from the dmv. If that is the answer see post 14. If it's so much different and better then why do I still need a passport to fly internationally? Shouldn't this "federally recognized" "real ID" be sufficient? Yes I will end up getting one when I have to renew but it makes zero sense! JMO

This sure as hell isn't panning out. Which is the reason for enactment. See post 14.

As I said in post 29 Just another money grab!!

 

[rivermobster]

This sure as hell isn't panning out. Which is the reason for enactment. See post 14.

As I said in post 29 Just another money grab!!

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2005!

Let's not rush into anything eh???