Micro Ants

[Mandelon]

Lately we have these tiny black ants around the house. I spray all the time and they won't give up. They are super small and black. Slightly stinky when I squish em.

I had a napkin on my desk with some bacon grease left on it. Guess what I now also have all over my desk? Little crawlers running up my arms when I am not paying attention now.

Any tips that work?

 

[Pivot]

We have them also! Tiny bastards. I dont remember seeing them before

 

[4Waters]

Termador

 

[Justfishing]

Are they attracted to a bait like terro?

Also find out where they are coming from. If it from outside you spray a barrier around the house to push them away from the house.

Diamataeous earth is a fine powder. It's structure is such that it damages an insects extoskeleton and causes it to get dehydrated and die. It is not poison and is not harmful to people or animals. In fact some people ingest it

A couple things about it. First like any dust you don't want to inhale it, use a dust mask. It is a little messy to use. A little goes a long way. If you place it at the edge of the carpet and baseboard it creates a barrie. Work it into the Gap and it will get to the subfloor so it will be there for a long time.

 

[Ouderkirk]

Amdro Ant Block works on practially every kind of ant.

The take it back to the nest and they are gone in 12 hours.

 

[buck35]

These sound like the tiny sugar ants I fought for years, and none of the baits or traps did shit. When I have a moment to check I'll see what I used to Annialte them with.

 

[SBMech]

Bastard ants is what I call them.

Spray the outside of your foundation with ant killer, then use the Diamataeous earth Justfishing recommended. It worked for me.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Yup.....DE......or Mexican style......flour....lol

 

[RichL]

They showed up here as well this year.

 

[3queens]

Corn syrup and roach/ant powder found everywhere
Warm up corn syrup mix in powder like pancake mix pour in small or bottom 1/4 of red cup place in various places
They take it back to nest and
That's all folks

 

[Chili Palmer]

This is the shit. It's available at Home Depot. Lately all of our construction trailers come equipped with ants when they show up at the jobsite. A liberal spritzing around the inside and outer edges of the trailers take care of them for the duration of the job 6-12 months.

 

[JDub24]

They are rover ants. Need to put out a bait trap from Termador like mentioned above. It will take a couple of days but then they will be gone. I get them every year. They are searching for water more than anything. Food is just an extra.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yep we have had them here too. Had the bug guy do some work on the inside of the house one day, they have not been back since.

They are really weird.. one minute nothing and you come back 10 mins later there is a line of 30 of them coming out from behind a random switch plate on the wall.

 

[OutCole'd]

Flame thrower

 

[C-2]

Sevin Dust, most hardware places carry it.

It's the old "flea powder" you remember as a kid. Stuff works great, I use it ON my chickens, dogs, cats, I run a small line of it around my dog food bin or dog water bowl, and around all entry ways (sliders, windows etc). Super simple, cheap and works better than any spray.

It's a Phos-Chek line of death for ants, lol.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Lately we have these tiny black ants around the house. I spray all the time and they won't give up. They are super small and black. Slightly stinky when I squish em.

I had a napkin on my desk with some bacon grease left on it. Guess what I now also have all over my desk? Little crawlers running up my arms when I am not paying attention now.

Any tips that work?

Fire. Fire is the only thing that works.

 

[Go-Fly]

Sugar water and Borax in water bottle caps around the outside of the house. Need to fill and clean weekly. Takes a few months to kill off all the groups in your house and the neighbors on both sides of you.

 

[HavaToon]

Termador

This will kill them fast and for years to come. Nasty stuff but incredibly effective.

termidor sc termiticide, only works on termites and ants. You used to be able to get it on amazon.

Use Cy-Kick CS Pest Control Insecticide for everything else. These two together will completely eliminate your bug/insect problems.

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[Mandelon]

Thanks! Now I have a mission for tomorrow. Sick of these little fuckers. I have sprayed around the house many times, but I think they must already be in the walls!

Also noticed I have termites living inside my front door again. Ugh!

 

[4Waters]

Thanks! Now I have a mission for tomorrow. Sick of these little fuckers. I have sprayed around the house many times, but I think they must already be in the walls!

Also noticed I have termites living inside my front door again. Ugh!

Termador will take care of the termites as well, it's not a fix for a large termite problem but it is good for that small area however if they are in your door they are most likely in the walls as well. Good luck.

 

[River Runnin]

Peppermint oil & water in a spray bottle, and Borax power works also.

 

[Taboma]

Termador

For year I successfully used a product (Bayer Advanced Termite and Carpenter Ant concentrate) containing Beta Cyluthrin - 2.5%.
It's available at Home Depot for around $20 for 32 Oz. Works amazing, but the other day I had these same fuckin tiny ants find a weakness and slip in. Only a few scouts apparently, I found some milling outside in an area I've neglected and wiped them out.
For now it seems after getting the ones that slipped in, we're not seeing anymore.

You suggested Termador, I'm assuming Termador SC. I bought a 20 oz bottle a couple of years ago on Amazon and to date haven't used any. The reason why is this --- I'm conflicted !!!
The Bayer with B-Cyluthrin kills the shit out of all ants, scorpions, just about anything that crawls or walks on the ground. But, according to the Termador fans, it emits an odor so acts as a repellent, so in time the ants avoid it rather than dying from it.
OK, so they avoid it --- cool, if I can keep them away from the exterior of my home, what's the problem ? Also I can walk almost anywhere in my area surrounding the house and not find a single ant (Well except these few bastard ants that side stepped my defenses).
I want to use the Termador, I guess legally I can use it directly around my footings, up a foot and out a foot. But, it's not going to repel the ants, only EVENTUALLY kill them.
My thought was, use my Bayer around the house footings and up the exterior walls a foot or so, will kill and repel, then use the Termador as a primary line of defense out further, hoping to kill more before they reach the house.
Directions and FAQ states I can't do that, also essentially states used in that manner and for ants it will only last 6 weeks --- WTF, my cheap HD stuff lasts for months.
So my Termador sits unused, because I'm not sure how to use it effectively.

So how are you using it effectively for ants ???

 

[Big B Hova]

I have had these micro ants off and on all summer. Super dry conditions is making them look for water. Keep popping up in my bathroom sinks and shower. Ive sprayed as well, and that seems to piss them off and make more of them in the house lol

 

[HavaToon]

For year I successfully used a product (Bayer Advanced Termite and Carpenter Ant concentrate) containing Beta Cyluthrin - 2.5%.
It's available at Home Depot for around $20 for 32 Oz. Works amazing, but the other day I had these same fuckin tiny ants find a weakness and slip in. Only a few scouts apparently, I found some milling outside in an area I've neglected and wiped them out.
For now it seems after getting the ones that slipped in, we're not seeing anymore.

You suggested Termador, I'm assuming Termador SC. I bought a 20 oz bottle a couple of years ago on Amazon and to date haven't used any. The reason why is this --- I'm conflicted !!!
The Bayer with B-Cyluthrin kills the shit out of all ants, scorpions, just about anything that crawls or walks on the ground. But, according to the Termador fans, it emits an odor so acts as a repellent, so in time the ants avoid it rather than dying from it.
OK, so they avoid it --- cool, if I can keep them away from the exterior of my home, what's the problem ? Also I can walk almost anywhere in my area surrounding the house and not find a single ant (Well except these few bastard ants that side stepped my defenses).
I want to use the Termador, I guess legally I can use it directly around my footings, up a foot and out a foot. But, it's not going to repel the ants, only EVENTUALLY kill them.
My thought was, use my Bayer around the house footings and up the exterior walls a foot or so, will kill and repel, then use the Termador as a primary line of defense out further, hoping to kill more before they reach the house.
Directions and FAQ states I can't do that, also essentially states used in that manner and for ants it will only last 6 weeks --- WTF, my cheap HD stuff lasts for months.
So my Termador sits unused, because I'm not sure how to use it effectively.

So how are you using it effectively for ants ???

Simply spray termidor like any other bug spray, outside only. That’s how I use it. I spray the stem wall and put about 6-12”. I had the micro blank ants and within 1 week they were gone, it’s been over a year and they have never come back.


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[Taboma]

Simply spray termidor like any other bug spray, outside only. That’s how I use it. I spray the stem wall and put about 6-12”. I had the micro blank ants and within 1 week they were gone, it’s been over a year and they have never come back.


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I was set to do the house perimeter this morning, until I read on the Termidor FAQ pages that sprayed around the foundation and up the wall a foot for ants is effective for 6 weeks --- hell the Bayer shit that's 1/3 the price lasts for several months.
However most of the reviews I read seemed to last much longer as you stated. I'll give it a try, thanks

 

[bobbytheboozer]

Burn the house down and start over.

 

[Taboma]

Burn the house down and start over.

Well no thanks, been there done that, I'll battle the ants !!

 

[Old Texan]

Well no thanks, been there done that, I'll battle the ants !!

Crazy Ants?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasberry_crazy_ant

 

[Taboma]

Crazy Ants?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasberry_crazy_ant

Nah, hell no, don't need any of your "Crazy" Texas ants here in CA, lol
I dunno what they're called, same tiny black ones a few of us here in So Cal are enduring right now.
I never see them but maybe once or twice a year, in fact it's probably been three years since they last visited me.
Like others have said, they don't seem to care about the food, just hang around the bathroom and shower.

We've got some variety of Crazy (Fuckin) ant in Havasu, at least that's what everybody calls them. Crazy in the way that there's no pattern or trail, they all seem to be going in random directions and constantly changing direction. Fast too, I mean really hard to smash, it's like they're on meth.
Here in So Cal I just mostly do battle with the Argentine ants.

 

[Old Texan]

Nah, hell no, don't need any of your "Crazy" Texas ants here in CA, lol
I dunno what they're called, same tiny black ones a few of us here in So Cal are enduring right now.
I never see them but maybe once or twice a year, in fact it's probably been three years since they last visited me.
Like others have said, they don't seem to care about the food, just hang around the bathroom and shower.

We've got some variety of Crazy (Fuckin) ant in Havasu, at least that's what everybody calls them. Crazy in the way that there's no pattern or trail, they all seem to be going in random directions and constantly changing direction. Fast too, I mean really hard to smash, it's like they're on meth.
Here in So Cal I just mostly do battle with the Argentine ants.

Just hope and pray Fire Ants never make it that far......They are a huge problem and can be deadly on top of it all.

 

[Taboma]

Just hope and pray Fire Ants never make it that far......They are a huge problem and can be deadly on top of it all.

They were discovered in the late 90's in areas of Orange County, later in other counties as well. An aggressive campaign to eradicate them was conducted, with some success --- some, not all. So yup, they're here too, just not HERE at my place --- yea !!

 

[jet496]

Terro is the best long term solution & if you keep putting them down until they're gone, you'll kill them all.

Home Defense from Home Depot is a good short term solution, but the colony survives & just reroutes to other things. They keep coming back for the Terro, which is only Borax, until they're all dead.

Terro & Home Defense spray, with battery operated sprayer, are all I use.

 

[Taboma]

Terro is the best long term solution & if you keep putting them down until they're gone, you'll kill them all.

Home Defense from Home Depot is a good short term solution, but the colony survives & just reroutes to other things. They keep coming back for the Terro, which is only Borax, until they're all dead.

Terro & Home Defense spray, with battery operated sprayer, are all I use.

When this threaded popped up we were just starting to see a few here and there inside. I'm tenacious about keeping a barrier around the house perimeter and we've only had two small interior attacks in about 7 years, so not bad.
Well one colony found their way past my "Wall" which once discovered I quickly closed off. So this left the colony trapped in the wall of my house.
For the next several days we fought a few here and there, no big deal. Came home Saturday afternoon and found they'd finally found the kitchen --- my wife's HOLY GROUND, now the shit was going to get real Plus it became obvious there wasn't just a few scouts who'd defeated my exterior defenses but more like a colony. Got them killed and cleaned up in the kitchen and I remember I had some Terro I'd bought and hadn't tried down in the shop.
Fetched the Terro bait stations and a bottle of Terro but didn't want to attract them to the kitchen. Sunday morning my wife finds a lot of them using the baseboard for a freeway through our spare bedroom/office --- now was Terro testing time.
Put two trays and some dots of the liquid on two pieces of cardboard up against the baseboard ant freeway. DAMN, these fuckers were hungry and within a few seconds were swarming the shit. By swarming, I mean, what we thought was a small colony now took on the appearance of "The crawling black death", holy shit, it was freaky there were so many.
For a few hours the feeding frenzy continued, but by later afternoon things had calmed dramatically, still a few running back and forth and a mess of what appeared to be dead ones in and around the bait stations. By evening one or two still traveling back and forth, but mostly a lot of dead appearing ones left on the cardboard and on top of the baseboard. BUT, it was obvious we were winning
I checked them yesterday morning, HOLY SHIT !! Not one ant to be seen anywhere in the house, none around the baseboard or bait stations --- and not only that, they'd cleaned up after themselves I mean not one dead ant could be found, they'd hauled off all evidence they'd even been there. The cardboard was clean and there were no dead ants left stuck in the bait stations either.
Never seen anything like it --- but hot damn, that shit works and works fast.
So like Go Fly mentioned, the sugar water and borax, which is all this Terro is, really is amazing if you've got sugar loving ants.

Thanks for the tip guys

Today the Termador SC gets laid down, must build a bigger wall !!!

 

[termiteguy]

For all diy guys out there do everyone a favor and use termidor sc and other like products at the label rate.all of the products are designed to kill at that rate.More is not better termidor is a non repellnt product at the label rate any more turns it into a repellnt which is not good not to mention the run off goes into the water ways. Anyhow I hate ants too

 

[rvrrun]

Terro is the best long term solution & if you keep putting them down until they're gone, you'll kill them all.

Home Defense from Home Depot is a good short term solution, but the colony survives & just reroutes to other things. They keep coming back for the Terro, which is only Borax, until they're all dead.

Terro & Home Defense spray, with battery operated sprayer, are all I use.

That’s what I’ve been using, and it usually does a great job, but these little bastards are relentless this year.

 

[84miller]

HOME DEFENSE. I have continued to use it every three months. Start with the inside of your house and spray around all base boards. Go to the outside and spray the base parameter around the house. I have lived at the beach for over 20 years, ants are a problem, I have had none since sticking with my routine. I have a mobile at parker dam, same routine. Only thing I get inside the mobile is the tiny black knats that are attacked to the light when the door is opened at night. They die before morning.

 

[Taboma]

For all diy guys out there do everyone a favor and use termidor sc and other like products at the label rate.all of the products are designed to kill at that rate.More is not better termidor is a non repellnt product at the label rate any more turns it into a repellnt which is not good not to mention the run off goes into the water ways. Anyhow I hate ants too

Serious question or really a discussion if you don't mind.

If I'm rather prudent with a couple of spring and summer foundation perimeter applications of Bayer Termite and Carpenter Ant Concentrate (B-Cyluthren) although I've read it's also a repellent we have zero ants in the house. Where ever it gets sprayed the ants either die or disappear. Last year I got an interior infestation when one branch of a fern rested against the stucco --- damn, their scouts are good. This year's problem, again I was late in making the rounds again, so they found a way past, but the Terro worked wonders.

The Bayer product is about a 1/4 of the cost of Termidor SC. When I'm spraying it around my foundation I tend to like the idea of the repellent aspect --- the idea being, to keep them out of the house. On almost 3/4 of an acre, half being an organic avocado grove, there's no way in hell I'm going to kill all the ants anyway.
Normally, I'll also lay down a secondary perimeter band out several feet, figuring two walls being better than one.
That's where I'd prefer to use the Termidor SC that I've bought and never used. In other words, kill them at a distance, let the Termidor SC have the time to work it's magic, meanwhile the ants who decide to continue get repelled back by the Bayer.
But the directions of the Termidor clearly state I can only use it immediately surrounding my foundation.
Seems to me, since the Termidor won't immediately kill them, they'll be in my house --- which is what I don't want.

So my Termidor SC dilemma is where to use it that will be effective, or more effective than the Bayer I've been using for a long time and still keep the bastards out of my house. One other thing, the Bayer kills the shit out of spiders and scorpions, does the Termidor SC ?

 

[termiteguy]

Serious question or really a discussion if you don't mind.

If I'm rather prudent with a couple of spring and summer foundation perimeter applications of Bayer Termite and Carpenter Ant Concentrate (B-Cyluthren) although I've read it's also a repellent we have zero ants in the house. Where ever it gets sprayed the ants either die or disappear. Last year I got an interior infestation when one branch of a fern rested against the stucco --- damn, their scouts are good. This year's problem, again I was late in making the rounds again, so they found a way past, but the Terro worked wonders.

The Bayer product is about a 1/4 of the cost of Termidor SC. When I'm spraying it around my foundation I tend to like the idea of the repellent aspect --- the idea being, to keep them out of the house. On almost 3/4 of an acre, half being an organic avocado grove, there's no way in hell I'm going to kill all the ants anyway.
Normally, I'll also lay down a secondary perimeter band out several feet, figuring two walls being better than one.
That's where I'd prefer to use the Termidor SC that I've bought and never used. In other words, kill them at a distance, let the Termidor SC have the time to work it's magic, meanwhile the ants who decide to continue get repelled back by the Bayer.
But the directions of the Termidor clearly state I can only use it immediately surrounding my foundation.
Seems to me, since the Termidor won't immediately kill them, they'll be in my house --- which is what I don't want.

So my Termidor SC dilemma is where to use it that will be effective, or more effective than the Bayer I've been using for a long time and still keep the bastards out of my house. One other thing, the Bayer kills the shit out of spiders and scorpions, does the Termidor SC ?

termidor is nonrepelant which mean the ant can not detect it allowing them to pickup the product and spread it around the colony not kill on contact a ant colony is not going to let all the members out at once maybe 10% at once. So that big trail you find is a huge colony. A treatment once every 6 months should do the trick good luck

 

[Taboma]

termidor is nonrepelant which mean the ant can not detect it allowing them to pickup the product and spread it around the colony not kill on contact a ant colony is not going to let all the members out at once maybe 10% at once. So that big trail you find is a huge colony. A treatment once every 6 months should do the trick good luck

I understand the concept of the non-repellent Termidor SC. The Argentine ants we have around here, although I've read how in So Cal it's some multi-county super colony, seem to have numerous smaller colonies around the property.
The objective is to keep them outside and not in the house, most likely like any of your customers want.
I don't know how long it's going to take the Termidor to wipe out a colony or numerous various colonies (Front, side, back etc) and how many are going to make their way indoors before it wipes them out ?

In your experience --- do they tend to migrate indoors prior to it being effective at killing the colony or colonies ?
I'm not sure telling my ant hating wife --- Just be patient dear, is going to work, ha ha
Do you know why this product can't be used as a perimeter defense further out from the foundation ?

 

[termiteguy]

It will only take a day or 2 to see results you can use the product any where you want I can't! We have to follow the label give try you can still use you other products in between treatments.we have customers on service that treat every other month to help maintain pest I treat my house once a year with termidor and in between

 

[Chili Palmer]

If you do find a fire ant colony in your backyard just melt down all your Coors Light and Bud Light cans and fill it up. Let it cool down then dig it up and wash it off. Now you have a trophy from all the fire ants you eliminated from this world.