You're one of the first I've heard going from chlorine to salt, usually people get fed up with the maintenance of the chlorine generators. As far as Ozone, it works great in the water industry, but don't have a clue about home units.
I used to have a salt pool and loved it. When the new pool was built they almost told me they flat wouldn't build me a salt pool, don't know. The problem with the chlorine is that if you rely on the pucks then you build up too much CYA (stabilizer) and you have to drain the pool, which is where I am now.
Yes, I've had a salt pool and it actually held up in the summer months. I don't mind adding a little hypo if needed. I have a small pool, maybe 8k gallons.
Kinda what I'm thinking..... Especially when you can't measure or test it.
I'm far from an expert, but how does making your own chlorine solve this? Our friends with a salt water pool had drained there's twice in 3 years, never could seem to get it right, also had problems with the generator, so just switched to sodium hypochlorite. That's only been about a year so who knows. I've know people in other parts of the country that never changed their water in 20 years, but in Havasu it seems common to drain every few years. Not trying bad mouth the city water, because I know it tests safe, but maybe the chemical composition has an effect on this.
The reason Water Utilities use ozone like in a treatment plant is to reduce the amount of chlorine needed which will in turn reduce the amount of THM's which are considered cancer causing agents, and are now tested for and must be kept below certain levels.
The pure chlorine that the generator produces does not make Cyraunic Acid which is the stabilizer inherent in most all consumer chlorine. The CYA is important because it stabilizes the chlorine so the sun doesn't burn it off so fast. But, you start chasing your tail because when the CYA gets too high it inhibits the chlorine's ability, so you have to add more chlorine to sanitize correctly which adds more CYA, and then your only recourse is to drain the pool. The Ozone is a pure sanitizer as far as I can tell. Which is why I'm asking for info/opinions
I have a puck chlorinator and I thought that would be the answer, nope. Liquid or powder hypo works fine but you have to keep on top of it, salt generator is automatic.IF you are checking your pool water balance you would know you have to drain and refill every 3-4 years. So it really doesn't make any difference, you have to swap out the water no mater what!
You had a wise pool builder. Salt water pools are heavy on $$$ maintenence wise. A salt water pool is still using chlorine as a sanitizer, so..........why spend the additional bucks?
I have a liquid chlorine dispenser. It's a mini version of what they use in big commercial pools. It's a bit of labor to maintain it, but labor I can do, so it's free!
Hasa Liquidator, 8 Gallon, W/ "3/8" Upgrade
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Curious, why do you have to swap the water every 3-4 years? What level gets out of wack?IF you are checking your pool water balance you would know you have to drain and refill every 3-4 years. So it really doesn't make any difference, you have to swap out the water no mater what!
You had a wise pool builder. Salt water pools are heavy on $$$ maintenence wise. A salt water pool is still using chlorine as a sanitizer, so..........why spend the additional bucks?
I have a liquid chlorine dispenser. It's a mini version of what they use in big commercial pools. It's a bit of labor to maintain it, but labor I can do, so it's free!
Hasa Liquidator, 8 Gallon, W/ "3/8" Upgrade
Buy The Liquidator by Hasa Pool with 8 gallon capacity that includes the 3/8" upgrade. With the upgrade you'll get increase & controlled free chlorine.pstpoolsupplies.com
When you use Di or Tri chloride they have Cyuranic acid added to them as a stabilizer for the chlorine so the sun doesn't burn it off as fast. The more puck type chlorine you add the more CYA is added also. As the CYA gets higher it inhibits the effectiveness of the chlorine so you have to add more, which also adds more CYA. The only way to get rid of the CYA is to drain the pool. Lol, I'm shooting from my hip here because I'm certainly not an expert.... Which is why I was asking for advise
Thats what I figured......was curious if @rivermobster had another reason or issue. If you use nothing but liquid chlorine and stay away from pucks and other MISC additives it would seem the water can live foreverWhen you use Di or Tri chloride they have Cyuranic acid added to them as a stabilizer for the chlorine so the sun doesn't burn it off as fast. The more puck type chlorine you add the more CYA is added also. As the CYA gets higher it inhibits the effectiveness of the chlorine so you have to add more, which also adds more CYA. The only way to get rid of the CYA is to drain the pool. Lol, I'm shooting from my hip here because I'm certainly not an expert.... Which is why I was asking for advise
Spend a summer with a salt pool and you will know why. I’m fine with adding a pound of hypochlorite every two weeks. There is no comparison when you are in the pool every day.
I pay $100 a month but it's the best $100 I spend, all I do is enjoy the pool.
Seriously? Even in the worst times it may cost me $20 in chems. And you can't keep the water right if you do it once a week, you're going to get spikes and valleys in the water quality. Again, I'm no expert but just speaking from experience. But I do understand the part about letting someone else worry about it, I'm just not that guy.
Ya. thanks.... I was reluctant to ask here because I didn't want to get into the Ford vs Chevy deal and that's pretty much what it's come down to. No matter what your deal is the water chem is the answer. I'll just do what I think is right.The simplest explanation is one that all of us will understand...
Why do you wipe your boat down when you pull it out the water? Why do you dry your car off after you wash it in the driveway?
Water spots. What are water spots anyway? Water evaporates, so the water does not cause the spots. The minerals in the water, that stay behind are what leaves the spots. So what happens when the water in your pool evaporates? The minerals (same shit that leaves the water spots on your boat and car) start building up in your pool. A certian amount is inevitable, but there is a limit to this mineral content.
1st problem: Notice how danG said the only time he lowers his water is to have the calcium blasted off? I used to have a nasty white line on my blue tile, before I learned about water balance. Did i have to blast/scrub it off? Nope. Once I got the water balance correct, it just melted back into the pool, and I haven't seen it in YEARS. Too much mineral content in your pool water jacks up your tile, and eats away at the chrome. No bueno.
2nd problem: Excessive mineral content causes your chemicals not to work! You have to add twice as much chlorine as you would need too if the water balance is right, and it jacks with the PH too.
Plus it makes the water feel creepy. Some people call it soft. I call it slimy. There is Nothing better than jumping into a properly balanced pool! You can open your eyes under water and there is NO burn. And the water will be crystal clear. Water balance is Everything.
The CYA (chlorine stabilizer) is another problem too, depending on how you sanitize your pool. But that's whole different novel I'm not in the mood to write about tonight!
Best thing to do is get a REAL test kit, not one of the cheeseball kits they sell at the pool store. Taylor Technologies makes nothing BUT test kits. And their instructions will set you straight.
I've had a pool in my back yard for 30 years now. I wish I woulda learned about water balance 30 freakin years ago!!! I had a pool guy show me how to test the PH and Chlorine when i got my first pool and tell me "that all there is to it!" Most pool guys are f'n clueless.
I learned just a few years ago how to PROPERLY take care of my pool. Better late than never I guess! Amazon sells their kits and regents too...
If you Really wanna dig into it, and I'm sure YOU will, here ya go! lol Happy reading bud!
Lol, I'm a simple guy
The simplest explanation is one that all of us will understand...
Why do you wipe your boat down when you pull it out the water? Why do you dry your car off after you wash it in the driveway?
Water spots. What are water spots anyway? Water evaporates, so the water does not cause the spots. The minerals in the water, that stay behind are what leaves the spots. So what happens when the water in your pool evaporates? The minerals (same shit that leaves the water spots on your boat and car) start building up in your pool. A certian amount is inevitable, but there is a limit to this mineral content.
1st problem: Notice how danG said the only time he lowers his water is to have the calcium blasted off? I used to have a nasty white line on my blue tile, before I learned about water balance. Did i have to blast/scrub it off? Nope. Once I got the water balance correct, it just melted back into the pool, and I haven't seen it in YEARS. Too much mineral content in your pool water jacks up your tile, and eats away at the chrome. No bueno.
2nd problem: Excessive mineral content causes your chemicals not to work! You have to add twice as much chlorine as you would need too if the water balance is right, and it jacks with the PH too.
Plus it makes the water feel creepy. Some people call it soft. I call it slimy. There is Nothing better than jumping into a properly balanced pool! You can open your eyes under water and there is NO burn. And the water will be crystal clear. Water balance is Everything.
The CYA (chlorine stabilizer) is another problem too, depending on how you sanitize your pool. But that's whole different novel I'm not in the mood to write about tonight!
Best thing to do is get a REAL test kit, not one of the cheeseball kits they sell at the pool store. Taylor Technologies makes nothing BUT test kits. And their instructions will set you straight.
I've had a pool in my back yard for 30 years now. I wish I woulda learned about water balance 30 freakin years ago!!! I had a pool guy show me how to test the PH and Chlorine when i got my first pool and tell me "that all there is to it!" Most pool guys are f'n clueless.
I learned just a few years ago how to PROPERLY take care of my pool. Better late than never I guess! Amazon sells their kits and regents too...
If you Really wanna dig into it, and I'm sure YOU will, here ya go! lol Happy reading bud!
Not to the tune of dumping the pool empty every 4 years!Yep. I have a big pine tree next to my pool. I use the maintenance levels of it.
So if you wash your, you don't bother to dry it off? Lucky you!
