Super C anyone?

[Waterjunky]

Anyone here own one or directly know someone who does? The wife and I are looking to upgrade from the AF 1150 cabover as it is a little tight with the kid. I saw one locally and really liked it. We are also looking at A pushers. We would be looking used but have a decent budget. We want a family friendly unit and not buying junk.
I like the engine access, seating position, and driver door of the super C. We also like the overhead bed for the kid. We are looking in the low to mid 30' range.

 

[satellitemike]

Good luck w your search, always loved the look and practicality of those!
Free bump.

 

[mjc]

I went and drove a used one today and will probably make an offer on it tomorrow. A jayco Seneca 34ss. 2007 Chevy 5500 duramax.

 

[TripleB]

Over the last 30 years I’ve owned and driven a lot of motor homes, class C, class A single axle, class A tag axle and Super C. Brand names, Winnebago, Monaco, Country Coach, Newell and Renegade.

We use our motor homes to show horses, put on about 40,000 miles a year and a lot of living in them.

IMHO for towing/driving the super C gets my vote. After driving any class A for 10 hours I felt spent upon arriving, the super C makes me feeling like driving a car, way more energy arriving.

Every motor home has plus and minus, the biggest down fall of the super C vs class A is turning radius. The HUGE plus for us is towing capacity, just remember a class A was built to be a motor home and an after thought to trailer, the super C was designed to be a truck first and a motor home later.

Bottom line, it’s going to depend on how you will use it, and what you want for living space.

 

[5oclocksomewhere]

Over the last 30 years I’ve owned and driven a lot of motor homes, class C, class A single axle, class A tag axle and Super C. Brand names, Winnebago, Monaco, Country Coach, Newell and Renegade.

We use our motor homes to show horses, put on about 40,000 miles a year and a lot of living in them.

IMHO for towing/driving the super C gets my vote. After driving any class A for 10 hours I felt spent upon arriving, the super C makes me feeling like driving a car, way more energy arriving.

Every motor home has plus and minus, the biggest down fall of the super C vs class A is turning radius. The HUGE plus for us is towing capacity, just remember a class A was built to be a motor home and an after thought to trailer, the super C was designed to be a truck first and a motor home later.

Bottom line, it’s going to depend on how you will use it, and what you want for living space.

What super C have you had and what size horse trailer do you pull with how many horses? Asking because we have been thinking about selling our 5th wheel RV and getting a 4 horse living quarters. We have a CM 3 horse slant bumper pull now that we would still keep for local events.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Can't afford one yet, but I've worked on and driven 2 Seneca coaches with Duramax setups. One was stock, the other has a Bullydog tune. The one with the tune gets better mileage, and drives like a car. That particular guy hauls a 3 axle enclosed, painted to match, about a 28ft. It handles the weight fine, but the overhang causes the hitch to drag if not careful...this guy isn't careful
The nice thing is, drivetrain parts are pretty available at GM dealers, not just RV or heavy places. Makes it a little better for stuff on the road.

 

[phuggit]

We have a 2019 Seneca HJ. We love it. Easy to drive, easy to maintain myself.

It's a motorhome so there is always something that needs repairing, but the chassis and engine have been solid.

 

[Done-it-again]

We have a 2019 Seneca HJ. We love it. Easy to drive, easy to maintain myself.

It's a motorhome so there is always something that needs repairing, but the chassis and engine have been solid.

We are interested in the Jayco and have checked them out over the last few weeks.

Did you buy new? If so what dealer. Prices seems to fluctuate pretty good.

 

[pwerwagn]

I have an 05 Gulfstream Super C on the C5500 Kodiak with the 8.1/allison. We love it. Of all the RV's we own/have owned, it gets used the most. Ours turns super sharp, tows trailers great, etc. Theres times we will drive it to dinner instead of one of the other vehicles, just because the kids say lets take the Moho.

My dad has an ~09 or so Supernova on the DT4200 IH chassis with the VT365, and he loves it as well. Hes had a bunch of Class A's, and this one is his fave so far.

 

[bagged97taco]

I have an 05 Gulfstream Super C on the C5500 Kodiak with the 8.1/allison. We love it. Of all the RV's we own/have owned, it gets used the most. Ours turns super sharp, tows trailers great, etc. Theres times we will drive it to dinner instead of one of the other vehicles, just because the kids say lets take the Moho.

My dad has an ~09 or so Supernova on the DT4200 IH chassis with the VT365, and he loves it as well. Hes had a bunch of Class A's, and this one is his fave so far.

View attachment 848802

What do you get for mpg with the 8.1l.

 

[TripleB]

What super C have you had and what size horse trailer do you pull with how many horses? Asking because we have been thinking about selling our 5th wheel RV and getting a 4 horse living quarters. We have a CM 3 horse slant bumper pull now that we would still keep for local events.

We have a 45 ft Renegade Ikon, we dont pull any horses but pull a 30ft renegade stacker trailer, my daughter has a 4 horse living quarters that pulls great behind a one ton dually

 

[monkeyswrench]

We have a 45 ft Renegade Ikon, we dont pull any horses but pull a 30ft renegade stacker trailer, my daughter has a 4 horse living quarters that pulls great behind a one ton dually

Beautiful rig! I like the horse trailer too, but the Renegades are nice. I have a buddy with a 30ish ft single slide.

I take it they aren't too picky about the length out by you? You have to be pushing near 80ft...I got a warning once in Cali running 72ft...but that was Cali.

 

[TripleB]

By us? We trailer all over, Ohio, Florida, Texas, Nebraska never have had an issue

 

[monkeyswrench]

At one point, 65 was the legal limit for most states. Some have motor carrier and ag rules that allowed for overlength. I really think it comes down to the rig and purpose though. Team logos and themes draw more attention than a nicely detailed/more privately owned deal.

I've wanted to build a toter, but my open trailer is a shade over 50ft from hitch to tail. My stacker is only 38...both are goose. I need a bigger tow rig, if not for legalities, just for added peace of mind.

 

[phuggit]

We are interested in the Jayco and have checked them out over the last few weeks.

Did you buy new? If so what dealer. Prices seems to fluctuate pretty good.

Yes we purchased new. We bought it from Richardsons RV. We got a little better than 30% less than MSRP.

 

[Done-it-again]

Yes we purchased new. We bought it from Richardsons RV. We got a little better than 30% less than MSRP.

Thanks, visited the one in Riverside a few weeks ago.

Any warranty issues? I've heard a lot of them get water damage from the slide area with insufficient caulking. Causing slides to be rebuilding in a matter of years.

 

[hawgty55]

I want to try the super Cs next but man there pricey. There is a garage kept gulfstream like @pwerwagn above with an 8.1 guy wants 55k out here in Texas. Just cant see it worth that much compared do my classA diesel.

 

[pwerwagn]

What do you get for mpg with the 8.1l.

Depends what I'm doing with it. I can say, that when we stop at gas stations...I sometimes use more than my buddies with pushers, and sometimes use the same amount. Our "usual" trips (lake, silverton, etc), I tend to get about 7-7.5mpg, and thats with a trailer behind it (usually between 25 and 26Klbs total). And I DONT drive it for mileage, I let er eat as often as possible. It runs pretty good, It will run circles around the International my dad has, but he is about 4K heavier than me too.

 

[pwerwagn]

I want to try the super Cs next but man there pricey. There is a garage kept gulfstream like @pwerwagn above with an 8.1 guy wants 55k out here in Texas. Just cant see it worth that much compared do my classA diesel.

I agree with you. No way would I pay 55K for mine if it was pristine. There was a pristine 4wd converted duramax version on glamis dunes recently for like 70K, and it sold quick.

FWIW, I paid like 22K for mine with 41K miles. Was a theft recovery/salvage title. Its been a great coach though.

 

[phuggit]

Thanks, visited the one in Riverside a few weeks ago.

Any warranty issues? I've heard a lot of them get water damage from the slide area with insufficient caulking. Causing slides to be rebuilding in a matter of years.

We have 5k miles and so far there have been no issues with the slides. The refrigerator cabinet needed to be rebuilt to hold the weight of the residential fridge and there were a couple recalls on the engine and generator. It took them two days to fix the cabinet and the others were fixed in a day.

If you can wait until the 2021 models are released, you may get a better deal. That's what we did. Good luck.

 

[hawgty55]

@pwerwagn ive talked to him a couple times cause my buddy was interested. And i was thinking of it if he backed out but it would definitely have to start with a 3 for me to go from diesel to gas. Also this one only has 1 slide and 50 gal of water i believe?

But i have blue booked them and hold value well for an RV.

 

[SOD]

I'm pretty happy with this one. 2008 with 20k with the 8.1 and allison. Living room and bedroom slides. I'm far from a MH guru. I just like driving a truck versus the class A. Wet camping is obviously a piece of cake, but two people at KOH for 5 days pretty much takes care of the tanks.

 

[mjc]

I just finished the deal on a 2008 jayco seneca 34ss. will pick up in a week when back from vacation.

 

[Waterjunky]

I just finished the deal on a 2008 jayco seneca 34ss. will pick up in a week when back from vacation. View attachment 849254

This is somewhere near what I am looking for , probably a little newer though. Tank size is a real issue for me and the family as almost all of our camping is dry.

 

[v6toy4x]

It is all about the chassis, more gvwr, more motor more money, I have driven most and if I am choosing one to tow it would have the cummins ISL at a minimum, most are Freightliner M2-106 chassis with 26,000 gvwr-- no duramax, or ISB if you tow the hills.
If you want to tow heavy Dynamax is looking to option the XL with a DD13 allison 4000 on the Freightliner M2-112

 

[5oclocksomewhere]

We have a 45 ft Renegade Ikon, we dont pull any horses but pull a 30ft renegade stacker trailer, my daughter has a 4 horse living quarters that pulls great behind a one ton dually

Nice setup! We almost bought this one in 2012 but opted to buy the river house instead. Then I do a little web search yesterday and find it for sale again. I called the guy right away and he said it was an old add and that he sold it last year. Apparently it went to Maine. Damn it I missed it again! If anyone ever sees it up for sale again please let me know.

Peterbilt Class C Conversion RV Motorhome (2000)

For Sale: 2000 Peterbilt 379 Class C Custom Coach $85, 000. 00 Condition: Like New Fuel: Diesel Paint Color: Yellow Title Status: Clean

carscoms.com

 

[McKay]

Why do most all Super C's and C's have such a huge overhang? A lot more wheel base sure would make towing better and not to mention going off road a little.

 

[Activated]

We have always talked about a motor home when we retire...and I have always been interested in a Super C. I had some time today and was browsing the craigslist and found this. Don’t recall seeing this platform before.

New 2021 Dynamax Isata 5 36DS Cummins Diesel 4x4 Motorhome RV - rvs...

Brand New 2021 Isata 5 36DS 4x4! This 4x4 Motorhome Will Take You Where You Need To Go! Call or...

prescott.craigslist.org

 

[pwerwagn]

We have always talked about a motor home when we retire...and I have always been interested in a Super C. I had some time today and was browsing the craigslist and found this. Don’t recall seeing this platform before.

New 2021 Dynamax Isata 5 36DS Cummins Diesel 4x4 Motorhome RV - rvs...

Brand New 2021 Isata 5 36DS 4x4! This 4x4 Motorhome Will Take You Where You Need To Go! Call or...

prescott.craigslist.org

The Isata's are cool! If i remember right, certain models weigh dang near the GVW empty, but I forget which model that is.

 

[Performance Grips]

We have always talked about a motor home when we retire...and I have always been interested in a Super C. I had some time today and was browsing the craigslist and found this. Don’t recall seeing this platform before.

View attachment 881891

New 2021 Dynamax Isata 5 36DS Cummins Diesel 4x4 Motorhome RV - rvs...

Brand New 2021 Isata 5 36DS 4x4! This 4x4 Motorhome Will Take You Where You Need To Go! Call or...

prescott.craigslist.org

That thing is bad ass

 

[NorCalRiverRat]

Ours turns super sharp,

just thought I would mention in case the OP has regular class c on back burner.
my 31' e-450 class c turning radius is a joke. it's always can I make that turn because if I don't I'm screwed because I have a car on a dolly ! no backing up !

 

[Waterjunky]

That is a very cool rig, but as mentioned above, not really a super c by most definitions. Now the builders are slapping that label on anything over a 1 ton van as it has a marketing component, but still not really a super C. Just a 4wd standard class C.

 

[Activated]

That is a very cool rig, but as mentioned above, not really a super c by most definitions. Now the builders are slapping that label on anything over a 1 ton van as it has a marketing component, but still not really a super C. Just a 4wd standard class C.

I searched Super C but in their ad this is listed as a Class C.

Just noticed that.

 

[v6toy4x]

Dynamax Isata 5
Dodge 5500 4x4 optional 19,500 GVW 360HP&800ft lbs torque
They have 3 models 2 of which have very low CCC, the third is a brand new model 28SS aimed at off grid. iti s 30'-11" has around 2700lbs CCC, 800 watts solar 400AH lithium.

Nexus is just now unveiling the "REBEL" built on the international CV platform (oversized GM) 4x4 option 22,000 GVW
They alos have the TRIUMPH, WRAITH, GHOST al on the dura star but no 4x4 option and varying engine/trans ratings. The ghost has the same cummins as the dodge 5500 360/800 but with the allison 3000, which I would take over the aisin if this had 4x4.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Dynamax Isata 5
Dodge 5500 4x4 optional 19,500 GVW 360HP&800ft lbs torque
They have 3 models 2 of which have very low CCC, the third is a brand new model 28SS aimed at off grid. iti s 30'-11" has around 2700lbs CCC, 800 watts solar 400AH lithium.

Nexus is just now unveiling the "REBEL" built on the international CV platform (oversized GM) 4x4 option 22,000 GVW
They alos have the TRIUMPH, WRAITH, GHOST al on the dura star but no 4x4 option and varying engine/trans ratings. The ghost has the same cummins as the dodge 5500 360/800 but with the allison 3000, which I would take over the aisin if this had 4x4.

If looking at a Durastar platform, check into reviews of their current owners. I don't know if they revamped the egr cooler design, but some had issues. Like a 6 leaker Ford, it starts losing coolant and no trace. I did 2 this year, Bulletproof makes a replacement...8 bills maybe. You have to pull the exhaust and compounds off to replace. Not bad, just labor intensive...which equates to possible out of pocket if on the road or not tooled up to do it yourself. Motor and auto stick type trans works good though.

 

[Uncle Dave]

I just finished the deal on a 2008 jayco seneca 34ss. will pick up in a week when back from vacation. View attachment 849254

Nice ride - thats a LOT of chassis behind the axles...

UD

 

[cuz_im_CR]

I’ll be listing this one for sale. It’s a 33ft with single slide and a duramax. 50k


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[Beerme]

We love our Seneca. We've only owned it a year and half. 2008 with 40K. Owner kept all the receipts, regular service and replaced the radiator in 2018. Has been bulletproof for us.

 

[BTR]

View attachment 882175
I’ll be listing this one for sale. It’s a 33ft with single slide and a duramax. 50k


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PM me. I’m interested already.

 

[BHC Vic]

I just finished the deal on a 2008 jayco seneca 34ss. will pick up in a week when back from vacation. View attachment 849254

Is it rude if I ask what this cost then? Looks very similar to the 07 I’m looking at

 

[Done-it-again]

Is it rude if I ask what this cost then? Looks very similar to the 07 I’m looking at

Why would you want to know? those prices are long gone and I bet its the same price now and 4 yrs older....

 

[BHC Vic]

Why would you want to know? those prices are long gone and I bet its the same price now and 4 yrs older....

Because if it’s the same price I’m not going to buy right now. I’ll just stop looking and wait till after elections.

 

[Done-it-again]

Because if it’s the same price I’m not going to buy right now. I’ll just stop looking and wait till after elections.

I get it, but it its like boats new ones are more and so used ones are more.

Did you hear the CEO of BofA no longer predicting a recession. Its a gamble, at the same time you could be losing out on making memories as the can will keep getting kicked down the road.

 

[BHC Vic]

I get it, but it its like boats new ones are more and so used ones are more.

Did you hear the CEO of BofA no longer predicting a recession. Its a gamble, at the same time you could be losing out on making memories as the can will keep getting kicked down the road.

Im asking because if he paid 80ish I wouldn’t mind paying 65ish. If he paid 60 or lower I don’t think I can offer 65 and I for sure can’t come close to 83. I’m still pretty new in all this so I’m just trying to find some sort of gauge because from class a to class c people are all over the place. Like Dave saying this 07 class C is getting close to his number. I don’t understand it not even a little

 

[Done-it-again]

Im asking because if he paid 80ish I wouldn’t mind paying 65ish. If he paid 60 or lower I don’t think I can offer 65 and I for sure can’t come close to 83. I’m still pretty new in all this so I’m just trying to find some sort of gauge because from class a to class c people are all over the place. Like Dave saying this 07 class C is getting close to his number. I don’t understand it not even a little

I get it.... I'm looking at class A DP now, and a super C as well ( wife likes more than i do). as it will be easier to travel with our current situation.

I like the thrill of the hunt for the best price possible, but more times than not it takes a long time and a year or so has past.

Have you seen the one in person yet? If so send him your offer, he can say no or counter.

I'm selling a home plot in Texas right now and I know I have it it listed 10-15k high... I'm expecting someone to low ball it, I can either say yes or counter.

 

[BHC Vic]

I get it.... I'm looking at class A DP now, and a super C as well ( wife likes more than i do). as it will be easier to travel with our current situation.

I like the thrill of the hunt for the best price possible, but more times than not it takes a long time and a year or so has past.

Have you seen the one in person yet? If so send him your offer, he can say no or counter.

I'm selling a home plot in Texas right now and I know I have it it listed 10-15k high... I'm expecting someone to low ball it, I can either say yes or counter.

I saw it in person Saturday. It’s actually much cleaner than the pictures show. That’s kind of rare too I’ve noticed. He did tell me right off the bat he knows he’s on the high side but he said he wanted to start high because it’s easy to go down and he didn’t want to leave too much on the table. Nice guy

Check out this 2007 Jayco SENECA HD 36 FS shared from the RVTrader iOS App.
https://hr4kf.app.goo.gl/DbZGA

 

[mjc]

Is it rude if I ask what this cost then? Looks very similar to the 07 I’m looking at

I got it just before covid for 57k i think. Had 73k mile and just rolled 100k today.

 

[BHC Vic]

I got it just before covid for 57k i think. Had 73k mile and just rolled 100k today.

Thank you. The one I like is a little under 50k miles and in great shape. At 65k I wouldn’t feel like I lost but I’m pretty far from his asking. I guess all I can do is try and see what happens.

 

[Done-it-again]

Thank you. The one I like is a little under 50k miles and in great shape. At 65k I wouldn’t feel like I lost but I’m pretty far from his asking. I guess all I can do is try and see what happens.

just ask if he will entertain 65k, he's probably closer to 70-72 but it you never know.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Downside I see is there is more noise with a front engine, the user interface of even the $500,000+ Super Cs is that of a delivery truck and because of the drive shaft there is no pull through storage.