What is needed to install a RV 50 Amp receptacle at home?

[DaBank]

I would like to install a 50 amp receptacle for my motorhome at home. The panel is on the side of my 3 car garage and I would like the receptacle on the other side.
I would guest the run through the attic and down the wall would be about 40 to 50 foot.
What do I need to DIY this project?

 

[Singleton]

Can you breaker panel support it?
I was looking into adding AC (SD coastal) and adding a 50amp outlet.
Electrician came over and said my breaker panel is maxed out, would need to upgrade and expand current panel. Plus cost to run line from panel to location (apx 65’). Quote was 5k, just for that work.

 

[DaBank]

Here is my panel. Looks like it is full.

 

[DirtyWhiteDog]

1. A permit
2. An electrician licensed in 3 states.
3. Don't post it on RDP.

 

[DaBank]

Can you breaker panel support it?
I was looking into adding AC (SD coastal) and adding a 50amp outlet.
Electrician came over and said my breaker panel is maxed out, would need to upgrade and expand current panel. Plus cost to run line from panel to location (apx 65’). Quote was 5k, just for that work.

My panel looks maxed out.
My dryer is gas and my panel has 30 amp for the dryer. Maybe I can use that and just do a 30 amp for the rv?

 

[crzy2bealive]

1. A permit
2. An electrician licensed in 3 states.
3. Don't post it on RDP.

Yah definitely don't show it here

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[hallett21]

You have breaker space. You would need to use more tandems.

Just because a panel is full of breakers does not mean it’s maxed out. You need to do a load calculation to find out how much power you’re actually using.

For instance go ahead and add up all your breakers. It’ll add up to way more than your 200 main.

How proficient are you in working with electricity?


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[DaBank]

You have breaker space. You would need to use more tandems.

Just because a panel is full of breakers does not mean it’s maxed out. You need to do a load calculation to find out how much power you’re actually using.

For instance go ahead and add up all your breakers. It’ll add up to way more than your 200 main.

How proficient are you in working with electricity?


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I have done enough DIY to be dangerous...lol
I have Klein tools and testers and a Fluke meter.
I can install a receptacle right behind the panel if needed to make the job easier, I would just need to run a extension to the motorhome.

 

[JB in so cal]

Are you a television repair man with a ultimate set of tools? If so, I think you can do it!

 

[BasilHayden]

Definitely able, but highly recommended to get an electrician
Panel is fine though

 

[hallett21]

If it were me I would put a sub panel in the garage.

You’re already going through the effort of reworking the panel layout so you can get breaker space.

From there you can add a 50amp receptacle. Plus you have room for expansion down the road.

There’s a few moving parts to this and every time electrical advice is given it seems to turn into a shit show lol. I would hire an electrician.

We’d be at 1500-2k to set the panel and add the receptacle based upon what you’ve posted.


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[Dkahnjob]

Should be no problem. Use the Dryer circuit space and put a 50 in there and go from there.
Be sure to use the proper wire size and and run a ground wire. Your panel should be no problem.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

1. A permit
2. An electrician licensed in 3 states.
3. Don't post it on RDP.

Well played. Words to live by.

 

[fmo24]

A 50 amp rv plug is not like a 30 amp dryer plug/source. I’m not real savvy on electricity but it has two hots a common and a neutral???? My rv panel when plugged into shore power shows two legs. An electrician can explain better

 

[Cole Brewed]

Agree with @dirtywgitedog “3. Don't post it on RDP.” Or anywhere for that matter
&
Agree with @BasilHayden.” Definitely able, but highly recommended to get an electrician
Panel is fine though”

Do you want to run air or just keep batteries charged and maybe lights and refrigerator? 50 amp if yes to run the entire RV, 20amp to run the basics to prep to go......

However, if a skilled individual with more than basic common sense, could takl this.

Permits confirm you did the job correct if the inspector inspects it! And actually knows what he’s looking at or what to look for that may be incorrect. However might open a can of ..............

Open the main c/b on the panel to de-energize stay alive!

Through the attic and in the walls is clean and hidden usually requiring drywall repair Though an option may be to condelet out the back of the panel, run conduit (3/4 emt minimum ) up the wall, across the ceiling down the opposite wall and through with another condelet, out to a RV rec.

Replace the unused dryer rec circuit breaker with a new 50 am 2 pole.if going this way remove the dryer rec. cap off and blank cover in laundry room. Identify the wires in the panel as to where they go. Or replace with a 50303050 quad circuit breaker and retain the dryer receptacle and power up a new Rv receptacle. Remember that the Rv wires are 8awg cu. minimum and lands on the 50, dryer is 10awg and lands on 30.

50 amp rv rec requires 2 hot, 1 neutral, 1 ground total of 4 wires.

****Note more than 80’ recommended 1” and up to 6awg wire. Still using 50 c/b.

Big box store has and will sell what you ask for, wholesale supply will sell you the correct material the first time! Maybe even give a pointer or two.

 

[81Sprint]

24 years IBEW your panel is maxed. You need a sub panel to be safe. I added 30 amp service with 8 awg 75' SO (Temp Power) cord in my garage where my panel is to stretch to my rv parking which is opposite side of house than where rv parking is to power my RV AC when i need to cool it down, but have a 110 outlet on that side to keep battery charged, fridge on, etc. Its not cheap, but electricity is one of those get what you pay for things.

 

[rrrr]

24 years IBEW your panel is maxed. You need a sub panel to be safe. I added 30 amp service with 8 awg 75' SO (Temp Power) cord in my garage where my panel is to stretch to my rv parking which is opposite side of house than where rv parking is to power my RV AC when i need to cool it down, but have a 110 outlet on that side to keep battery charged, fridge on, etc. Its not cheap, but electricity is one of those get what you pay for things.

If he removes the unused 2 pole 30 amp dryer breaker and replaces it with a 2 pole 50 amp breaker, the change to the connected load is the difference between the dryer load and the RV load.

The maximum circuit load is 80% of the breaker ratings, so going from a 24 amp dryer load to a 40 amp RV load results in an additional 16 amp load.

I don't think it's likely his panelboard can't support another 16 amps.

How can you declare the panel maxed if you don't know the connected load and apply the demand factors in Article 220?

 

[BajaMike]

Simple....electrician. Do it right the first time....or risk a fire. Does the motorhome really need 50 amps?

 

[DaBank]

Thank you to everyone that made a suggestion. I would like to be able able to run as much as I can in the motorhome. I have 4 ac units and actually need 100 amp to run everything at the same time. I have a 25k watt generator.

 

[BajaMike]

Thank you to everyone that made a suggestion. I would like to be able able to run as much as I can in the motorhome. I have 4 ac units and actually need 100 amp to run everything at the same time. I have a 25k watt generator.

Wow....4 AC units and 100 amps....big motorhome. Do any parks provide that much power? I’m looking to buying a motorhome....just wondering.

 

[CarolynandBob]

Wow....4 AC units and 100 amps....big motorhome. Do any parks provide that much power? I’m looking to buying a motorhome....just wondering.

I haven't' seen an rv park with 100 amp outlets. We have 3 a/c units and we can run everything with 50 amps.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

All I know is that at the conclusion of this thread someone will not be posting in here anymore... .

 

[Angler]

What is needed to install a RV 50 Amp receptacle at home?

A machinist....

 

[SJP]

Only on RDP..

 

[Bigbore500r]

All I know is that at the conclusion of this thread someone will not be posting in here anymore... .

Can somebody post the cliff notes of what happened with that? I missed it

 

[HBCraig]

Simple....electrician. Do it right the first time....or risk a fire. Does the motorhome really need 50 amps?

Most motorhomes are either 30 amp or 50 amp. RV parks have both.

 

[SoCalDave]

X2^^^

 

[SoCalDave]

Are you using the 50amp service for your range or is it gas?

 

[DaBank]

Are you using the 50amp service for your range or is it gas?

The range is electric.
I have 50amp for my spa.

 

[DaBank]

Wow....4 AC units and 100 amps....big motorhome. Do any parks provide that much power? I’m looking to buying a motorhome....just wondering.

I have not seen 100 amp at a park. My coach has a 25k turbocharged diesel generator, I can run everything the coach has to offer at the same time only on the generator.

 

[LuauLounge]

Run a line from your next door neighbors, less costly in the long run.

 

[crzy2bealive]

I would love to see a pic of this rv

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[DLow]

If he removes the unused 2 pole 30 amp dryer breaker and replaces it with a 2 pole 50 amp breaker, the change to the connected load is the difference between the dryer load and the RV load.

The maximum circuit load is 80% of the breaker ratings, so going from a 24 amp dryer load to a 40 amp RV load results in an additional 16 amp load.

I don't think it's likely his panelboard can't support another 16 amps.

How can you declare the panel maxed if you don't know the connected load and apply the demand factors in Article 220?

Why do you find it necessary to continually bring fact and truth into these threads? I mean, really?

OP... there are a ton of things I’m sure you can physically do... electrical is probably one of them. It really isn’t very difficult. But, a VETTED pro will do it right, be code compliant, timely, and often cheaper than you can do it yourself when you include your time into the cost. You will also get a few different opinions from RDP. Some are right, some are completely idiotic. Sounds like a nice coach. Good luck.

 

[rrrr]

I have not seen 100 amp at a park. My coach has a 25k turbocharged diesel generator, I can run everything the coach has to offer at the same time only on the generator.

So you're running the A/C, blender, BluRay entertainment center, red LED rope lights, video camera, and vibrating bed all at the same time?

 

[Big B Hova]

I'd go wireless 50amp solar sub panel.

 

[wallnutz]

I have not seen 100 amp at a park. My coach has a 25k turbocharged diesel generator, I can run everything the coach has to offer at the same time only on the generator.

Newell coach?

 

[Mandelon]

25,000 Watt Generator on the RV? Sounds like you could run the house off of the RV instead of the other way around.

 

[JDKRXW]

What do I need to DIY this project?

Simple; read DLow's post first and rrrr's post second.

 

[NicPaus]

Need to change your screen name from Frank DaBank to Frugal Frank.

 

[Waffles]

A 50 amp rv plug is not like a 30 amp dryer plug/source. I’m not real savvy on electricity but it has two hots a common and a neutral???? My rv panel when plugged into shore power shows two legs. An electrician can explain better

It's not but if he throws a 30amp service on there, all he would need is a 50amp to 30amp dogbone adapter like camco sells.

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[81Sprint]

If he removes the unused 2 pole 30 amp dryer breaker and replaces it with a 2 pole 50 amp breaker, the change to the connected load is the difference between the dryer load and the RV load.

The maximum circuit load is 80% of the breaker ratings, so going from a 24 amp dryer load to a 40 amp RV load results in an additional 16 amp load.

I don't think it's likely his panelboard can't support another 16 amps.

How can you declare the panel maxed if you don't know the connected load and apply the demand factors in Article 220?

I did not read where the dryer was not being used, if that's the case you would be correct.

 

[DaBank]

I did not read where the dryer was not being used, if that's the case you would be correct.

I will look into that adapter.
But would still like to run a dedicated 50amp.

 

[DaBank]

Newell coach?

Prevost

 

[HBCraig]

I was going to go with the dryer adapter dalio but my neighbor (electrician) advised me not to. I forget why exactly but he said DO NOT do it.

 

[HBCraig]

Prevost

A newer Prevost? I remember they didnt offer slide outs for years They do now and in their later model coaches

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I will look into that adapter.
But would still like to run a dedicated 50amp.

So the big difference between a 30 amp and 50 amp is that a 30 amp is only one 120 volt leg, whereas a 50 amp is two 120 volt legs. Plugging a 50 amp plug into an 30 amp adapter "kills" one of the 120 volt leg into coach.

Seriously, spend a grand and have an electrician do this.

 

[DaBank]

Need to change your screen name from Frank DaBank to Frugal Frank.

90% of the time I need up doing any preparation and/or finish work because people today just like to rush if not I usually have to go back and clean up their work.
I have not problem having a license electrician connect the wiring, I would prefer to run wire in the attic and install the receptacle on my stucco myself.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I was going to go with the dryer adapter dalio but my neighbor (electrician) advised me not to. I forget why exactly but he said DO NOT do it.

Because a dryer circuit is 220 volt.

 

[DaBank]

A newer Prevost? I remember they didnt offer slide outs for years They do now and in their later model coaches

2003 Marathon Non Slide.
Prevost has had factory/OEM slides since 2000 I believe.

 

[DaBank]

So you're running the A/C, blender, BluRay entertainment center, red LED rope lights, video camera, and vibrating bed all at the same time?

Almost
What requires the 100 amp is if all 4 CruiseAir units kick on at the same time. Plus it has fiber optic lighting that pulls alot of juice. These things have so many electronics that the wiring looks like space shuttle....lol