Wireless Ethernet bridge

[djunkie]

I think this is what it's called. I've got this new toy here that I need to connect to the Internet. But it's not wi fi compatible. Is a bridge the device that plugs into it to make it wireless? I'm trying to avoid crawling under my house and running a 30 foot Ethernet cable. Am I looking at the right thing? If so are they hard to get working? Or should I just run the hard wire? I'm sending a video signal through it.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Why not just a wifi dealio that plugs into it?

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Wireless USB adapter

 

[djunkie]

Wireless USB adapter

I not sure if that would work with this. It's not a computer I'm trying to hook up. It's a dvr for a surveillance system.


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[was thatguy]

Bridging is the process.

Not sure what gadget you need to plug into your toy to enable it to connect to the router.

Shouldn't be anything fancy though. Like a USB wireless antenna dealio??

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

I not sure if that would work with this. It's not a computer I'm trying to hook up. It's a dvr for a surveillance system.


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Hmmm good question. I'm not geeky enough to answer it. Sounds like ur gonna have to get dirty though and hardwire it.

 

[djunkie]

Bridging is the process.

Not sure what gadget you need to plug into your toy to enable it to connect to the router.

Shouldn't be anything fancy though. Like a USB wireless antenna dealio??

It's gotta hook up to an Ethernet connector on the dvr. Can't be USB.


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[djunkie]

Hmmm good question. I'm not geeky enough to answer it. Sounds like ur gonna have to get dirty though and hardwire it.

Hard wiring it would probably be the best way. Save me the hassle of getting it to connect to my network. Just being lazy and don't feel like crawling under my house.


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[was thatguy]

I not sure if that would work with this. It's not a computer I'm trying to hook up. It's a dvr for a surveillance system.


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IMO, that should be hardwired anyway. It may not have a wireless hook up for a reason??

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

It's gotta hook up to an Ethernet connector on the dvr. Can't be USB.


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Maybe there is some sort of Ethernet to USB adapter of some sort?

 

[Ziggy]

Hard wiring it would probably be the best way. Save me the hassle of getting it to connect to my network. Just being lazy and don't feel like crawling under my house.


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I'd think if its your security camera system hardwiring would be the best route to take.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

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[djunkie]

IMO, that should be hardwired anyway. It may not have a wireless hook up for a reason??

It states in the instructions that it needs to be hard wired but I just figured they put that cause it doesn't have built in wi fi. Was thinking this deal would eliminate that. http://www.netgear.com/landing/wnce2001.aspx But may be a pain to get it all to connect and I'm not sure if I've got the computer skills to make it work. I'm better at drilling holes and crawling in tight spaces.


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[Ziggy]

http://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...=yhs-att-att_001&hsimp=yhs-att_001&hspart=att

Thats backwards from what he needs dumbass

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Thats backwards from what he needs dumbass

Didn't you see the 4 winkys? Besides, he could just get another female to female adapter to go between his device and a wireless USB adapter.

 

[was thatguy]

It states in the instructions that it needs to be hard wired but I just figured they put that cause it doesn't have built in wi fi. Was thinking this deal would eliminate that. http://www.netgear.com/landing/wnce2001.aspx But may be a pain to get it all to connect and I'm not sure if I've got the computer skills to make it work. I'm better at drilling holes and crawling in tight spaces.


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I know that after my initial wireless security system I will be hard pressed to do anything but hard wiring on anything to do with surveillance.
It's worth the crawl!!!!

I know what you are saying though! Under our house is "no mans land" as far as I'm concerned.
I bribe the junkie stepson with food and trinkets to run shit under the house....:thumbup:

 

[Ziggy]

Didn't you see the 4 winkys? Besides, he could just get another female to female adapter to go between his device and a wireless USB adapter.

I thought the winkys meant how easy it was for you to find the solution
But the female on female idea is pretty delicious sounding:thumbup:

 

[djunkie]

I'm thinking hard wired is the way to go. LOL

 

[was thatguy]

I
But the female on female idea is pretty delicious sounding:thumbup:

I wondered how long it would take......:thumbup:

The pervs should be along any post now.

 

[djunkie]

Gonna be hard to sneak my girlfriends in the house now with these mounted everywhere.

 

[was thatguy]

I'm thinking hard wired is the way to go. LOL

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I've been reading all kinds of blogs on this but for a different situation.
(connectivity problems with AT&T's ABSOLUTE POS router designated for Uverse)


If they are saying that connectivity is a problem wirelessly I would tend to believe them.

Probably has a lot to do with the switching on and off (motion sensors) nature of the surveillance DVR?

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

I thought the winkys meant how easy it was for you to find the solution
But the female on female idea is pretty delicious sounding:thumbup:

Yup... but when there is female to female involved, I'm thinking some HARDwiring should take place as well. Talk about drilling holes and crawling in tight spaces.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Stop being a lazy ass and hard wire that bitch. Think about how many times your phone/iPad hiccups when you're using wifi.

 

[djunkie]

I've been reading all kinds of blogs on this but for a different situation.
(connectivity problems with AT&T's ABSOLUTE POS router designated for Uverse)


If they are saying that connectivity is a problem wirelessly I would tend to believe them.

Probably has a lot to do with the switching on and off (motion sensors) nature of the surveillance DVR?

Could be. I'm sure there's a way to get it to work wirelessly. But hard wiring may be less of a headache since I've only got about a 30' run, 2 holes to drill in the floor, and a short crawl in the dirt.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Could be. I'm sure there's a way to get it to work wirelessly. But hard wiring may be less of a headache since I've only got about a 30' run, 2 holes to drill in the floor, and a short crawl in the dirt.

Sounds like a roll to Home Depot and the liquor store for some cheap labor and a six pack.

 

[djunkie]

Sounds like a roll to Home Depot and the liquor store for some cheap labor and a six pack.

This thing is gonna take me a week to install and setup. Do a little each day I guess. Gonna be all over this house running cable for it.

 

[Racey]

I think this is what it's called. I've got this new toy here that I need to connect to the Internet. But it's not wi fi compatible. Is a bridge the device that plugs into it to make it wireless? I'm trying to avoid crawling under my house and running a 30 foot Ethernet cable. Am I looking at the right thing? If so are they hard to get working? Or should I just run the hard wire? I'm sending a video signal through it.

Two routers running dd-wrt firmware set to bridging mode.

 

[was thatguy]

Two routers running dd-wrt firmware set to bridging mode.

I've been reading that some devices simply wont bridge, like certain game boxes or whatever.
Have you run into that sort of thing?

 

[Racey]

I've been reading that some devices simply wont bridge, like certain game boxes or whatever.
Have you run into that sort of thing?

The bridge just extends ethernet, you plug one end of your network into the the LAN side of one router set to bridged mode, you plug the remote device(s) into the LAN ports of another router set to bridge (and configured to connect to the other bridge router), the other devices do not know they are being transported across a bridge on the network, it is of no consequence to them, they simply think they are plugged into a switch just like any other hard wired device.

Most of the time when you have routers set to a bridge mode no other devices can connect to them wirelessly they are locked in a closed and private connection, the newer firmwares may allow the routers to work normally simultaneously, I'm not 100% positive on that, but if you just set the two routers up to bridge to each other, they will work with any device on the wired network. I have hooked up many wireless bridged networks over the years.

Edit: It appears the new dd-wrt will allow you to simply client connect to an existing router wirelessly, leaving it open to regular wifi connections as well. Meaning only the second router will have one of it's radios set into a bridge mode. Although i highly recommend running dd-wrt on both ends. You can pick up the linksys wrt54g routers on amazon for like $50 each, and then load dd-wrt on them.



http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge

A video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDl_kkiXl7Y

 

[mjc]

This thing is gonna take me a week to install and setup. Do a little each day I guess. Gonna be all over this house running cable for it.

Where are you at I might be able to get my son to come wire it fit you, he did mine for me..

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[spectra3279]

I think this is what it's called. I've got this new toy here that I need to connect to the Internet. But it's not wi fi compatible. Is a bridge the device that plugs into it to make it wireless? I'm trying to avoid crawling under my house and running a 30 foot Ethernet cable. Am I looking at the right thing? If so are they hard to get working? Or should I just run the hard wire? I'm sending a video signal through it.

Yes you can get some routers that will
Connect wirlessly to other routers. Then you can plug in your dvr to it.
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[djunkie]

Where are you at I might be able to get my son to come wire it fit you, he did mine for me..

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I'm in no rush. I can do it. There's plenty of room under the house and in the attic. Just gonna take me some time.

 

[djunkie]

Yes you can get some routers that will
Connect wirlessly to other routers. Then you can plug in your dvr to it.
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I'm just gonna run the cable. If I didn't have a crawl space under the house then I'd probably do the wireless deal. This way I know I'll never have connectivity issues either.

 

[was thatguy]

The bridge just extends ethernet, you plug one end of your network into the the LAN side of one router set to bridged mode, you plug the remote device(s) into the LAN ports of another router set to bridge (and configured to connect to the other bridge router), the other devices do not know they are being transported across a bridge on the network, it is of no consequence to them, they simply think they are plugged into a switch just like any other hard wired device.

Most of the time when you have routers set to a bridge mode no other devices can connect to them wirelessly they are locked in a closed and private connection, the newer firmwares may allow the routers to work normally simultaneously, I'm not 100% positive on that, but if you just set the two routers up to bridge to each other, they will work with any device on the wired network. I have hooked up many wireless bridged networks over the years.

Edit: It appears the new dd-wrt will allow you to simply client connect to an existing router wirelessly, leaving it open to regular wifi connections as well. Meaning only the second router will have one of it's radios set into a bridge mode. Although i highly recommend running dd-wrt on both ends. You can pick up the linksys wrt54g routers on amazon for like $50 each, and then load dd-wrt on them.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Standard_bridge_large.jpg

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge

A video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDl_kkiXl7Y

Got it.

My deal is trying to use the uverse router/ modem as modem only, and hard wiring a wireless router to it so I can use the primary router setting, with the modem as a gateway only and have open access beyond the POS ATT servers.
The ONLY uverse modem is the Motorola NVG510 tweaked for ATT and has NO bridge mode.

Here is a link, see what you make of this mess???

http://www.ron-berman.com/2011/11/24/motorola-nvg510-help-page-for-att-u-verse-users/

 

[djunkie]

What's the difference between Cat 5 and Cat 6 cable?

 

[C-2]

Got it.

My deal is trying to use the uverse router/ modem as modem only, and hard wiring a wireless router to it so I can use the primary router setting, with the modem as a gateway only and have open access beyond the POS ATT servers.
The ONLY uverse modem is the Motorola NVG510 tweaked for ATT and has NO bridge mode.

Here is a link, see what you make of this mess???

http://www.ron-berman.com/2011/11/24/motorola-nvg510-help-page-for-att-u-verse-users/

Might I suggest getting a Mac? :eek

 

[C-2]

What's the difference between Cat 5 and Cat 6 cable?

Cat 6 allows more bandwith to pass thru, 1gbps. But, none of your other equipment will, so stick to cat5.

 

[djunkie]

Cat 6 allows more bandwith to pass thru, 1gbps. But, none of your other equipment will, so stick to cat5.

Gotcha. Lowes has a 50' cat 6. I'll just order a 50' cat 5 online somewhere then.

 

[was thatguy]

Might I suggest getting a Mac? :eek

We have a Mac.

The problem is the ATT Uverse, and the modified modem that Motorola provides for it (NVG510). It sucks the bag.

ONLY connects to the ATT servers. I don't know enough about it to explain it correctly, but it is a hot mess.

I'll start another thread on it soon, I have my guru investigating the on line data on it and the work arounds right now.

 

[C-2]

Gotcha. Lowes has a 50' cat 6. I'll just order a 50' cat 5 online somewhere then.

It's backwards compatible so if they have it on the shelf at lowes, it will work fine.

 

[C-2]

We have a Mac.

I know that

 

[C-2]

We have a Mac.

The problem is the ATT Uverse, and the modified modem that Motorola provides for it (NVG510). It sucks the bag.

ONLY connects to the ATT servers. I don't know enough about it to explain it correctly, but it is a hot mess.

I'll start another thread on it soon, I have my guru investigating the on line data on it and the work arounds right now.

You know, in light of the people flocking to what they believe is "fiber", the cable companies will give you an outstanding deal for a cable modem. I pay less than $50 for a 100mb download. No worries ever, the line will have a hiccup once or twice per year. Chasing connectivity issues, and the down time....adds up.

 

[was thatguy]

You know, in light of the people flocking to what they believe is "fiber", the cable companies will give you an outstanding deal for a cable modem. I pay less than $50 for a 100mb download. No worries ever, the line will have a hiccup once or twice per year. Chasing connectivity issues, and the down time....adds up.

I wasn't sure if you were being a wise guy or not! Guess so!

We did NOT want Uverse, we had our ATT DSL cruising finally with an ADT bypass line and whole home filter at the junction outside.
Then the bastards MADE us switch. Sent the POS modem by fedex and everything.
We are screwed. can't even get cable where we live.

The screwed up part is the modems only target the 2 ATT domain servers.
It reminds me of being on AOL and thinking you were on the web.

There is an issue with the answering protocol timing out arbitrarily on the server end.
Pages load incomplete or hang, with complete drops lasting a few seconds all the time.

There are workarounds to target Yahoo or google or any other domain servers (I think they are called DLHP's or something like that??)
but I get lost trying to read them.
It is way beyond my knowledge.

 

[djunkie]

It's backwards compatible so if they have it on the shelf at lowes, it will work fine.

Ohhhh k. So it's fine to use Cat 6 if no Cat 5 is available. Gotcha again. I think. LOL

 

[Racey]

Might I suggest getting a Mac? :eek

Not a PC/Mac issue, it's a hardware issue with the modem provided by the ISP, doesn't matter if you are running Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac, or anything else......


Was Thatguy, does that ATT modem have a DMZ configuration, that works similarly to a bridged setup, it will allow a public IP to pass through to the router.

djunkie, the only differnce between cat5 5e and 6 are the higher the numbers the better the cable is for signal interference, in laymens terms it allows higher transmission rates with less errors as the cable has added features to protect against noise, but like someone above said, it really doesn't matter currently as the old plain cat5 still has the ability to surpass the speed of your internet connection.

 

[Nordie]

Did you go with defender? looks like their cameras. Dont forget a battery backup. If someone cuts your power you get 20 minutes extra recording.

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[C-2]

Not a PC/Mac issue, it's a hardware issue with the modem provided by the ISP, doesn't matter if you are running Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac, or anything else......

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Come on Racey, you know me better than that, lol. thatguy loves his MAC's, and apparently, so does everybody else. Apple devices, for the first time ever, will outsell Microsoft devices (collectively includes, iPads, pods and phones, as well as PC's, as a whole, Macs alone not outselling pc's, but...:eek.).

I'm actually 1/4 of the way thru the Cisco Networking Academy working towards a CCNA and then on to CISSP, and almost done with my EnCe training :thumbup:

The easiest route here really is to run a cat5 cable.

 

[djunkie]

Did you go with defender? looks like their cameras. Dont forget a battery backup. If someone cuts your power you get 20 minutes extra recording.

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It's a cheap Q-See system from Costco. Had decent reviews so i said why not. It's more of a novelty. But it will be nice to get video of people moving around the house. Not sure if I can add battery backup to it.

 

[BigQ]

Sounds like you are just going to run the copper, but you can also run ethernet over the house electric wires or if you have coax (used for cable tv) you can use an adapter for that too. It will be cheaper to just run the cable though.

 

[headshothills]

Yes you should be able to use a wireless router in bridge mode.

Bridge mode basically converts the wireless part of the router I to a wifi extension to the primarily router without handing out DHCP addresses and performing routing functions as the same time it allows you normally 4 LAN ports in the back. You actually have to log into the router and set it to bridge mode and configure it to connect to your primary wireless connect with SSID and Password. Once that's done you can connect wireless devices to it or hard wire and it will extend your Internet to the devices connected to it.


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