How is the used boat market doing this season?

[Done-it-again]

Not true. We can loan on boats as far back as 30 years. Just because the RDP preferred boat lender can’t, doesn’t mean it can’t be done. This is why people should shop around.

I have 3 sources that can/will do a loan for a 20yr old custom boat. I can even go to 30 years in some cases (rates are not ideal). Production boats are business as usual.

On April 1, Flagstar stopped recreational lending altogether. There are other sources that still will.

To correct the rumors, you can still get a loan for a custom boat built between 2003-2011. Just last week we funded an 03 Daytona w 525/, 06 Cobra 230 w/496, and 06 Mach 26 w 600hp.

The catch is that you must put a min 10% down, 10-12yr term (15 on some boats), and rates are gonna be slightly higher.

Magic’s are a different beast altogether. The most you can get financed for is around 50k. Lenders go by NADA values. There is a big delta between NADA and market pricing on Magics. I expect Magic prices to drop quickly as a 100k Magic typically needs 50k down.

What are the rates have you seen? Lets say 150k.

 

[Englewood]

What are the rates have you seen? Let’s say 150k.

Depends heavily on year/make/model.

Best I’ve seen in last 30 days is 7.99. We are tied to the prime rate so it’s anyone’s guess what they will be doing going forward.

 

[RiverDave]

You mean a 17 year old 400 hour 496 magic isn’t worth 105k anymore lmao.

I do not get the magic boat pricing. Who would have known they kept or increased value 15-20 years later lol.

You sold them too. Lol

They are still selling for that price though

 

[Englewood]

You mean a 17 year old 400 hour 496 magic isn’t worth 105k anymore lmao.

I do not get the magic boat pricing. Who would have known they kept or increased value 15-20 years later lol.

You sold them too. Lol

What is on the market for 100k that compares to a Magic Deck? The one I owned for 5 years was a perfect boat in every way. I’m a huge Magic fan.

Even Yamaha jet boats at Bert’s are 80k.

 

[Tank]

Not entirely true. We can loan on boats as far back as 30 years. Just because the RDP preferred boat lender can’t, doesn’t mean it can’t be done. This is why people should ALWAYS shop around.

I have 3 sources that can/will do a loan for a 20yr old custom boat. I can even go to 30 years in some cases (rates are not ideal). Production boats are business as usual.

On April 1, Flagstar stopped recreational lending altogether. There are many other sources that still will.

To correct the rumors, you can still get a loan for a custom boat built between 2003-2011. Just last week we funded an 03 Daytona w 525/, 06 Cobra 230 w/496, and 06 Mach 26 w 600hp.

The catch is that you must put a min 10% down, 720+ credit, 10-12yr term (15 on some boats), and rates are gonna be slightly higher.

Magic’s are a different beast altogether. The most you can get financed for is around 50k. Lenders go by NADA values. There is a big delta between NADA and market pricing on Magics. I expect Magic prices to drop quickly as a 100k Magic typically needs 50k down.

That’s really good news. Can I put your link in the advertisement for my boat

I agree it’s not impossible if you shop around but also. It as easy as it was 5 years ago to get cash.

 

[Bpracing1127]

What is on the market for 100k that compares to a Magic Deck? The one I owned for 5 years was a perfect boat in every way. I’m a huge Magic fan.

Even Yamaha jet boats at Bert’s are 80k.

That’s the problem there isn’t anything

They are still selling for that price though

yep cuz a new boat is 200k so what choice does the used market have? Again used prices are mostly dictated off new prices. New prices are out of control and no longer affordable for most families.

 

[Tank]

That’s the problem there isn’t anything

yep cuz a new boat is 200k so what choice does the used market have? Again used prices are mostly dictated off new prices. New prices are out of control and no longer affordable for most families.

Just like cars, houses, etc etc. middle class being priced out of everything!!

 

[Englewood]

That’s really good news. Can I put your link in the advertisement for my boat

I agree it’s not impossible if you shop around but also. It as easy as it was 5 years ago to get cash.

Please

 

[Havasu blue label]

Nailed it.

The condition and motor/drive package is everything. A lot of non merc power stuff is sitting.

Multiple posts this week in the Hallett group from people looking for WTOB 255's and of course 240's.

Boat prices are normalizing, the Covid craze is over. Just saw a nice 26 ICC Daytona for sale today. 496 with CMI's and 500 hours. Guy wants $69k. Seems like a good deal IMO.

Where

 

[Bowtiepower00]

I picked up a 24 Lavey 2 months ago, and have a neighbor looking for a 23-25’ WTOB under 50k, and for the most part there’s nothing out there except for the same overpriced boats that have been sitting for months.

In boats under 50k the well priced stuff with decent colors and merc power moves quick.

Tons of dreamers asking peak covid pricing for clapped out junk.

There aren’t enough clean older used boats to go around, since nobody can afford to build new. I could rerig my boat with a 520/XR ITS package, and put a new interior in it, and I’d still be tens of thousands under the cost of a new 25’ boat from any manufacturer.

 

[JD D05]

Which one is yours the Nordic?

Yes the Flame

 

[Mrs. Riley1]

I picked up a 24 Lavey 2 months ago, and have a neighbor looking for a 23-25’ WTOB under 50k, and for the most part there’s nothing out there except for the same overpriced boats that have been sitting for months.

In boats under 50k the well priced stuff with decent colors and merc power moves quick.

Tons of dreamers asking peak covid pricing for clapped out junk.

There aren’t enough clean older used boats to go around, since nobody can afford to build new. I could rerig my boat with a 520/XR ITS package, and put a new interior in it, and I’d still be tens of thousands under the cost of a new 25’ boat from any manufacturer.

I have a 24’ MCOB for sale in the classifieds.

 

[Bowtiepower00]

I have a 24’ MCOB for sale in the classifieds.

I showed it to him, they only want a walk through.

 

[Jay Dub]

That’s the problem there isn’t anything

yep cuz a new boat is 200k so what choice does the used market have? Again used prices are mostly dictated off new prices. New prices are out of control and no longer affordable for most families.

I agree. This is pricing so many families out of boating. our first boat was a new 20 foot crownline. 350 mag. It was around $28k all in with a trailer. This was in 1995

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I agree. This is pricing so many families out of boating. our first boat was a new 20 foot crownline. 350 mag. It was around $28k all in with a trailer. This was in 1995

On the flip side.. no one wants a new 20 foot family starter boat anymore either. Just like no one wants a $50k truck with cloth seats.

 

[JFMFG]

Yes the Flame

That thing is sweet

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Not entirely true. We can loan on boats as far back as 30 years. Just because the RDP preferred boat lender can’t, doesn’t mean it can’t be done. This is why people should ALWAYS shop around.

I have 3 sources that can/will do a loan for a 20yr old custom boat. I can even go to 30 years in some cases (rates are not ideal). Production boats are business as usual.

On April 1, Flagstar stopped recreational lending altogether. There are many other sources that still will.

To correct the rumors, you can still get a loan for a custom boat built between 2003-2011. Just last week we funded an 03 Daytona w 525/, 06 Cobra 230 w/496, and 06 Mach 26 w 600hp.

The catch is that you must put a min 10% down, 720+ credit, 10-12yr term (15 on some boats), and rates are gonna be slightly higher.

Magic’s are a different beast altogether. The most you can get financed for is around 50k. Lenders go by NADA values. There is a big delta between NADA and market pricing on Magics. I expect Magic prices to drop quickly as a 100k Magic typically needs 50k down.

Great post.

 

[Done-it-again]

Depends heavily on year/make/model.

Best I’ve seen in last 30 days is 7.99. We are tied to the prime rate so it’s anyone’s guess what they will be doing going forward.

Understand, they are more production boats around 2008-2012 Edgewater, Grady White, Sportsman

 

[CLdrinker]

Not entirely true. We can loan on boats as far back as 30 years. Just because the RDP preferred boat lender can’t, doesn’t mean it can’t be done. This is why people should ALWAYS shop around.

I have 3 sources that can/will do a loan for a 20yr old custom boat. I can even go to 30 years in some cases (rates are not ideal). Production boats are business as usual.

On April 1, Flagstar stopped recreational lending altogether. There are many other sources that still will.

To correct the rumors, you can still get a loan for a custom boat built between 2003-2011. Just last week we funded an 03 Daytona w 525/, 06 Cobra 230 w/496, and 06 Mach 26 w 600hp.

The catch is that you must put a min 10% down, 720+ credit, 10-12yr term (15 on some boats), and rates are gonna be slightly higher.

Magic’s are a different beast altogether. The most you can get financed for is around 50k. Lenders go by NADA values. There is a big delta between NADA and market pricing on Magics. I expect Magic prices to drop quickly as a 100k Magic typically needs 50k down.

Do you do RV loans? I contacted a guy from Instagram that advertised 6.99% for 20. He was full of shit because when the loan last called me she said That hadn’t been possible in a long to me.

Best quote I got was 10% down 9% interest for 15yrs. I about shit my pants. I don’t want anything that bad.

 

[Englewood]

Do you do RV loans? I contacted a guy from Instagram that advertised 6.99% for 20. He was full of shit because when the loan last called me she said That hadn’t been possible in a long to me.

Best quote I got was 10% down 9% interest for 15yrs. I about shit my pants. I don’t want anything that bad.

Yes. But I’m not here to steal business from RDP’s guy. Just providing info.

60 days ago 6.99 was possible. Each time the fed raises rates it gets higher and higher. I used to advertise that rates started at 6.99 but the last 45 days have changed that. I waited a month on my own purchase as we were busy and it cost me a whole point!

It’s hard to tell someone with an 800 score that they have to pay 8%+ but that is what it costs now. We don’t make any more money with higher rates.

I was getting 6.99 all day long in February. Not gonna happen now.

When you see “rates start at x%” that is for a new purchase + 800 score. Most dealers are quoting 10%+.

When mortgages are 6.5%+, recreational vehicles are gonna be much higher.

 

[Done-it-again]

10% ? damn...

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yes. But I’m not here to steal business from RDP’s guy. Just providing info.

60 days ago 6.99 was possible. Each time the fed raises rates it gets higher and higher. I used to advertise that rates started at 6.99 but the last 45 days have changed that. I waited a month on my own purchase as we were busy and it cost me a whole point!

It’s hard to tell someone with an 800 score that they have to pay 8%+ but that is what it costs now. We don’t make any more money with higher rates.

I was getting 6.99 all day long in February. Not gonna happen now.

When you see “rates start at x%” that is for a new purchase + 800 score. Most dealers are quoting 10%+.

When mortgages are 6.5%+, recreational vehicles are gonna be much higher.

Good. Waiting patiently for the sales to start

 

[JD D05]

That thing is sweet

It's a great boat. Has very low hours, a ton of money over the last year in brake pump, bunks, and dialed in by Barrett. Some people don't care but in today's prices it has a 25k stereo.

 

[Englewood]

10% ? damn...

All I can say is have your financing in order before going to the dealer. If not, you will be paying significantly more using their sources.

 

[Done-it-again]

All I can say is have your financing in order before going to the dealer. If not, you will be paying significantly more using their sources.

No kidding, typically financing is done out side of dealers for recreation toys. As for vehicles, little different.

 

[CLdrinker]

Yes. But I’m not here to steal business from RDP’s guy. Just providing info.

60 days ago 6.99 was possible. Each time the fed raises rates it gets higher and higher. I used to advertise that rates started at 6.99 but the last 45 days have changed that. I waited a month on my own purchase as we were busy and it cost me a whole point!

It’s hard to tell someone with an 800 score that they have to pay 8%+ but that is what it costs now. We don’t make any more money with higher rates.

I was getting 6.99 all day long in February. Not gonna happen now.

When you see “rates start at x%” that is for a new purchase + 800 score. Most dealers are quoting 10%+.

When mortgages are 6.5%+, recreational vehicles are gonna be much higher.

Exactly 800 credit score people usually are financially responsible enough to either wait out the rate storm. Or dial back there budget to something they pay cash for. My cash tree is plucked dry so I will be renting as needed.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

^^^ THIS ^^^
Our current boat we purchased in 2017. It's probably gone up 50% in value since then. Crazy Times we live in now!!! I'm expecting a major market swing soon.

I look at it like housing right now...financing is super expensive...so people are not selling what they have, and also not buying bigger/better/nicer. Idk if its going to swing that much...unless the job losses really start increasing.... that is when you may see a swing...I don't see it unless that happens.

 

[Bpracing1127]

I look at it like housing right now...financing is super expensive...so people are not selling what they have, and also not buying bigger/better/nicer. Idk if its going to swing that much...unless the job losses really start increasing.... that is when you may see a swing...I don't see it unless that happens.

Yep the thing that has to happen is new prices have to drop first. As there isn’t a seller looking to rebuy so to speak. Once new prices drop the used market will drop

 

[traquer]

There's some decent deals for 21' boats I saw around the US, but most had small power. 454mag or 496 is what I'm looking for and haven't found one yet well priced. Also I'd like to see service records or at least a major drive service if it's over 300 hours (bellows, cables, even gimble ring possibly). Gotta factor all that in.

Also every boat I've ever bought, even if it was "turnkey" needed about $3k right off the bat to fix things or upgrade them to my liking, so I factor that in as well. Case in point, found pretty cool boat the other day but the guy added a bimini that was totally clashing in color. My GF would kill me if I ran that so it'd have to be replaced. Lots of little things, few boats are as nice as the seller claims

 

[Yldboyz]

With rates and fuel on the rise... I'm curious to see if used boat sales are more competitive during the next few months. Our industry is booming but yet I hear a lot of people saying that they're already spread too thin.

 

[Goodtime$]

You already know the answer. New boat prices have doubled for deckboats in the last 8 years That’s how they stay in business - Fewer clients, smaller staff, higher margins.

Hard to disagree. The customer is driving the prices up with wanting more shit
Alcantara
Digital dash
Outboards
All come with a higher price

But our mini market is trending since 2004 I feel from high volume to lower volume and higher dollar
Less 21 skiers and more 28 decks.

Biden did not help.
Carb did not help.

2004 magic 28 deck $105k - I can sit in it today and drive it

28 fundeck base is $256k and I have to wait for it. It’s much nicer but we are all impatient now.

Back to the grind. Covid gold used boat prices are still flying. I’m a village idiot

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Hard to disagree. The customer is driving the prices up with wanting more shit
Alcantara
Digital dash
Outboards
All come with a higher price

But our mini market is trending since 2004 I feel from high volume to lower volume and higher dollar
Less 21 skiers and more 28 decks.

Biden did not help.
Carb did not help.

2004 magic 28 deck $105k - I can sit in it today and drive it

28 fundeck base is $256k and I have to wait for it. It’s much nicer but we are all impatient now.

Back to the grind. Covid gold used boat prices are still flying. I’m a village idiot

I know you are grinding, but you still fill a hole in the market.

 

[RaceTec]

Back to the grind. Covid gold used boat prices are still flying. I’m a village idiot

The only new boat that I would buy would be from @Goodtime$ Someone needs to pull the trigger and build one of his center consoles, I think he has the 35' molds? I can't afford new right now so that is why he just rebuilt the jet for my Spectra, can't afford new, rebuild a classic!

 

[CLdrinker]

Hard to disagree. The customer is driving the prices up with wanting more shit
Alcantara
Digital dash
Outboards
All come with a higher price

But our mini market is trending since 2004 I feel from high volume to lower volume and higher dollar
Less 21 skiers and more 28 decks.

Biden did not help.
Carb did not help.

2004 magic 28 deck $105k - I can sit in it today and drive it

28 fundeck base is $256k and I have to wait for it. It’s much nicer but we are all impatient now.

Back to the grind. Covid gold used boat prices are still flying. I’m a village idiot

What’s your 21 skier with a small block B1 going for?

 

[Goodtime$]

What’s your 21 skier with a small block B1 going for?

$68k range w 6.2 mag loaded

 

[goshen82]

Been looking for a 27 or bigger cat for months now. I need an open bow and can’t really find anything. Unless you’re gonna spend over 250k not much out there worth buying.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Maybe it's just the boats I have been looking at, but I have been seeing way more inventory and some decent boats. If my truck wasn't about to get lemon lawed, I'd buy that blue and flame HTM that I believe Alex used to own. I wanted that boat last year when it came up for sale, and here it is and I don't have a truck!

 

[RiverDave]

Not entirely true. We can loan on boats as far back as 30 years. Just because the RDP preferred boat lender can’t, doesn’t mean it can’t be done. This is why people should ALWAYS shop around.

I have 3 sources that can/will do a loan for a 20yr old custom boat. I can even go to 30 years in some cases (rates are not ideal). Production boats are business as usual.

On April 1, Flagstar stopped recreational lending altogether. There are many other sources that still will.

To correct the rumors, you can still get a loan for a custom boat built between 2003-2011. Just last week we funded an 03 Daytona w 525/, 06 Cobra 230 w/496, and 06 Mach 26 w 600hp.

The catch is that you must put a min 10% down, 720+ credit, 10-12yr term (15 on some boats), and rates are gonna be slightly higher.

Magic’s are a different beast altogether. The most you can get financed for is around 50k. Lenders go by NADA values. There is a big delta between NADA and market pricing on Magics. I expect Magic prices to drop quickly as a 100k Magic typically needs 50k down.

While I will freely admit Jody from Hamilton marine is a close personal friend and business associate of mine.. I’m not sure where that comment came from? Or what is driving it.

I picked up a 24 Lavey 2 months ago, and have a neighbor looking for a 23-25’ WTOB under 50k, and for the most part there’s nothing out there except for the same overpriced boats that have been sitting for months.

In boats under 50k the well priced stuff with decent colors and merc power moves quick.

Tons of dreamers asking peak covid pricing for clapped out junk.

There aren’t enough clean older used boats to go around, since nobody can afford to build new. I could rerig my boat with a 520/XR ITS package, and put a new interior in it, and I’d still be tens of thousands under the cost of a new 25’ boat from any manufacturer.

If he’s willing to step up to low 60’s I have a 270 that is a 10/10

 

[Bowtiepower00]

While I will freely admit Jody from Hamilton marine is a close personal friend and business associate of mine.. I’m not sure where that comment came from? Or what is driving it.




If he’s willing to step up to low 60’s I have a 270 that is a 10/10

270 will be too long on a trailer to fit in his garage. He would stretch the budget a little for the perfect boat, but must be a walk through and under 27-28’ on a trailer.

 

[Englewood]

While I will freely admit Jody from Hamilton marine is a close personal friend and business associate of mine.. I’m not sure where that comment came from? Or what is driving it.

I can see how it could come off that way without knowing the tone. My goal was to tell people to shop around, regardless of who they use. Wasn't personal.

 

[JayBreww]

A

While I will freely admit Jody from Hamilton marine is a close personal friend and business associate of mine.. I’m not sure where that comment came from? Or what is driving it.




If he’s willing to step up to low 60’s I have a 270 that is a 10/10

Didnt you say a few months ago you arnt a flipper?! Lol

 

[C-Ya]

Just some food for thought from a Parker guy……..

I know living in Florida has screwed my thinking, but you guys are more interested in looks and top speed over luxury.

You want to impress others……… go into a tight anchorage and move your 25’ boat around with a bow thruster.

To hell with throwing out an anchor, I can assure you, the dash mounted windlass (power anchor) will be your new best friend.

Electronics? Is this a concern to any of you? Charts? Transducers for seeing bottom?

You guys realize you can load waypoints into your autopilot, and have your boat take you from Havasu Springs to Havasu City, all while only holding a handheld remote for course correction?

You guys with twins……… Joystick with GPS. Mic Drop

Would you like to anchor your boat in 3 seconds? 10 times faster than a windlass. In less than 10ft of water, you will love a powerpole. Sure they look dorky. But they are the cats meow. Especially a twin powerpole setup. Lock it in place.

Hardtops? Boy have these come a long way. Many have power, retractable shades. Just push a button. Built in speakers.

Where I live, you must have a head to maintain your wife’s dignity. If you have this……. Get the best. Full electric head, with holding tank, filled from fresh water tank.

On board, built in shower. You need a water tank for this. The one built in on my Worldcat is perfect.

I don’t think I have ever read a post on this site with somebody talking about their VHF Radio, Autopilot, Radar, Garmin, Trolling motor, lithium boat batteries, scuppers, Epirb, MMSI number, DSC, AIS, Etc

If I were to spend 250k on my Havasu boat, it would have no problem also going to Catalina too. May as well get the most bang for your buck? Ocean going Havasu Boat.

I should probably mention……. I left a bar earlier tonight where they had the Florida Panther Game. They beat Toronto for the 2nd time in Toronto. It was WILD. I might be a little intoxicated! Lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Just some food for thought from a Parker guy……..

I know living in Florida has screwed my thinking, but you guys are more interested in looks and top speed over luxury.

You want to impress others……… go into a tight anchorage and move your 25’ boat around with a bow thruster.

To hell with throwing out an anchor, I can assure you, the dash mounted windlass (power anchor) will be your new best friend.

Electronics? Is this a concern to any of you? Charts? Transducers for seeing bottom?

You guys realize you can load waypoints into your autopilot, and have your boat take you from Havasu Springs to Havasu City, all while only holding a handheld remote for course correction?

You guys with twins……… Joystick with GPS. Mic Drop

Would you like to anchor your boat in 3 seconds? 10 times faster than a windlass. In less than 10ft of water, you will love a powerpole. Sure they look dorky. But they are the cats meow. Especially a twin powerpole setup. Lock it in place.

Hardtops? Boy have these come a long way. Many have power, retractable shades. Just push a button. Built in speakers.

Where I live, you must have a head to maintain your wife’s dignity. If you have this……. Get the best. Full electric head, with holding tank, filled from fresh water tank.

On board, built in shower. You need a water tank for this. The one built in on my Worldcat is perfect.

I don’t think I have ever read a post on this site with somebody talking about their VHF Radio, Autopilot, Radar, Garmin, Trolling motor, lithium boat batteries, scuppers, Epirb, MMSI number, DSC, AIS, Etc

If I were to spend 250k on my Havasu boat, it would have no problem also going to Catalina too. May as well get the most bang for your buck? Ocean going Havasu Boat.

I should probably mention……. I left a bar earlier tonight where they had the Florida Panther Game. They beat Toronto for the 2nd time in Toronto. It was WILD. I might be a little intoxicated! Lol

You are right you haven't. No one that boats in Havasu cares about any of that stuff. All boats in Havasu are are floating stereos and coolers... with occasional pushes of the throttle to the end of their travel.

In Havasu the loudest stereo and biggest engine(s) impresses others

Why would we need tens of thousands of electronics for a 40 minute ride to Topock, or a 20 minute no wake idle to find a spot in the Channel?

And lets face it.. compared to Florida, Havasu is the place most of us went to be poor.

Your boat is great, but for boating in Havasu, a Deep V or CC with all the electronics, heads, joysticks, bow thrusters, is meaningless if I can't easily access the the front of the boat to get on and off.

 

[traquer]

Just some food for thought from a Parker guy……..

I know living in Florida has screwed my thinking, but you guys are more interested in looks and top speed over luxury.

You want to impress others……… go into a tight anchorage and move your 25’ boat around with a bow thruster.

To hell with throwing out an anchor, I can assure you, the dash mounted windlass (power anchor) will be your new best friend.

Electronics? Is this a concern to any of you? Charts? Transducers for seeing bottom?

You guys realize you can load waypoints into your autopilot, and have your boat take you from Havasu Springs to Havasu City, all while only holding a handheld remote for course correction?

You guys with twins……… Joystick with GPS. Mic Drop

Would you like to anchor your boat in 3 seconds? 10 times faster than a windlass. In less than 10ft of water, you will love a powerpole. Sure they look dorky. But they are the cats meow. Especially a twin powerpole setup. Lock it in place.

Hardtops? Boy have these come a long way. Many have power, retractable shades. Just push a button. Built in speakers.

Where I live, you must have a head to maintain your wife’s dignity. If you have this……. Get the best. Full electric head, with holding tank, filled from fresh water tank.

On board, built in shower. You need a water tank for this. The one built in on my Worldcat is perfect.

I don’t think I have ever read a post on this site with somebody talking about their VHF Radio, Autopilot, Radar, Garmin, Trolling motor, lithium boat batteries, scuppers, Epirb, MMSI number, DSC, AIS, Etc

If I were to spend 250k on my Havasu boat, it would have no problem also going to Catalina too. May as well get the most bang for your buck? Ocean going Havasu Boat.

I should probably mention……. I left a bar earlier tonight where they had the Florida Panther Game. They beat Toronto for the 2nd time in Toronto. It was WILD. I might be a little intoxicated! Lol

Hey my last Havasu boat had a depth-finder, that was some high-tech shit I feel ya!

 

[Tank]

Just some food for thought from a Parker guy……..

I know living in Florida has screwed my thinking, but you guys are more interested in looks and top speed over luxury.

You want to impress others……… go into a tight anchorage and move your 25’ boat around with a bow thruster.

To hell with throwing out an anchor, I can assure you, the dash mounted windlass (power anchor) will be your new best friend.

Electronics? Is this a concern to any of you? Charts? Transducers for seeing bottom?

You guys realize you can load waypoints into your autopilot, and have your boat take you from Havasu Springs to Havasu City, all while only holding a handheld remote for course correction?

You guys with twins……… Joystick with GPS. Mic Drop

Would you like to anchor your boat in 3 seconds? 10 times faster than a windlass. In less than 10ft of water, you will love a powerpole. Sure they look dorky. But they are the cats meow. Especially a twin powerpole setup. Lock it in place.

Hardtops? Boy have these come a long way. Many have power, retractable shades. Just push a button. Built in speakers.

Where I live, you must have a head to maintain your wife’s dignity. If you have this……. Get the best. Full electric head, with holding tank, filled from fresh water tank.

On board, built in shower. You need a water tank for this. The one built in on my Worldcat is perfect.

I don’t think I have ever read a post on this site with somebody talking about their VHF Radio, Autopilot, Radar, Garmin, Trolling motor, lithium boat batteries, scuppers, Epirb, MMSI number, DSC, AIS, Etc

If I were to spend 250k on my Havasu boat, it would have no problem also going to Catalina too. May as well get the most bang for your buck? Ocean going Havasu Boat.

I should probably mention……. I left a bar earlier tonight where they had the Florida Panther Game. They beat Toronto for the 2nd time in Toronto. It was WILD. I might be a little intoxicated! Lol

Nah, fuck all that. Lol

NOTHING will replace this for me.

 

[Orange Juice]

Yep the thing that has to happen is new prices have to drop first. As there isn’t a seller looking to rebuy so to speak. Once new prices drop the used market will drop

How much you think new prices are going to drop over the next 2 years?

 

[Bpracing1127]

How much you think new prices are going to drop over the next 2 years?

Not a clue, but with rates where they are sales I’m sure are down?

 

[hallett21]

Just some food for thought from a Parker guy……..

I know living in Florida has screwed my thinking, but you guys are more interested in looks and top speed over luxury.

You want to impress others……… go into a tight anchorage and move your 25’ boat around with a bow thruster.

To hell with throwing out an anchor, I can assure you, the dash mounted windlass (power anchor) will be your new best friend.

Electronics? Is this a concern to any of you? Charts? Transducers for seeing bottom?

You guys realize you can load waypoints into your autopilot, and have your boat take you from Havasu Springs to Havasu City, all while only holding a handheld remote for course correction?

You guys with twins……… Joystick with GPS. Mic Drop

Would you like to anchor your boat in 3 seconds? 10 times faster than a windlass. In less than 10ft of water, you will love a powerpole. Sure they look dorky. But they are the cats meow. Especially a twin powerpole setup. Lock it in place.

Hardtops? Boy have these come a long way. Many have power, retractable shades. Just push a button. Built in speakers.

Where I live, you must have a head to maintain your wife’s dignity. If you have this……. Get the best. Full electric head, with holding tank, filled from fresh water tank.

On board, built in shower. You need a water tank for this. The one built in on my Worldcat is perfect.

I don’t think I have ever read a post on this site with somebody talking about their VHF Radio, Autopilot, Radar, Garmin, Trolling motor, lithium boat batteries, scuppers, Epirb, MMSI number, DSC, AIS, Etc

If I were to spend 250k on my Havasu boat, it would have no problem also going to Catalina too. May as well get the most bang for your buck? Ocean going Havasu Boat.

I should probably mention……. I left a bar earlier tonight where they had the Florida Panther Game. They beat Toronto for the 2nd time in Toronto. It was WILD. I might be a little intoxicated! Lol

I think you just compared an RV to a Lambo SUV. Sure they cost the same. But that’s it

 

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How much you think new prices are going to drop over the next 2 years?

Not a lot. No way getting they are ever getting back to 2019 prices. I think these custom boat MFGs will be able to find 20-30 customers a year still.

Mass produced toons could see a drop like RVs and trailers.

 

[Havasu blue label]

While I will freely admit Jody from Hamilton marine is a close personal friend and business associate of mine.. I’m not sure where that comment came from? Or what is driving it.




If he’s willing to step up to low 60’s I have a 270 that is a 10/10

It was not offensive just giving us guys there still loans available for boats and toys