If I don't have to sign a contract I would love to.You could talk to my agent
There are some good deals coming.
This one just lowered the price $70K and it was already a fair deal for it's size.
If I don't have to sign a contract I would love to.You could talk to my agent
Dm meIf I don't have to sign a contract I would love to.
There are some good deals coming.
This one just lowered the price $70K and it was already a fair deal for it's size.
Sent.Dm me
That's what I am thinking but really didn't know for sure.
That's what I did with my Havasu house, then I offered $10,000 under asking, she excepted = Done deal, easy peasy.Does one really need a buyers agent? All the homes are online to look at. Call, make an appt and go look. Why do I need someone who know nothing about the home walking around with me with their hand out?
I did 100%.Did you notice the link that I quoted by any chance?
You might want to read the whole thing.
I did 100%.
I even sent it to the realtor and was told that is not accurate when it comes to agents who are part of the MLS.
This whole thread is retarded. If your only choice was the sea of half ass moonlighting licensed realtors I understand going it alone even without much commission savings. However, professionals exist…and they are easily 2.5% better than yourself…even in the most extreme circumstances.
I sent you a message, did you get it?Dm me
Great point! No I am certainly not saying that. My point is related to commissions savings (very little if any) and the underestimation of a professional’s ability and results. Instagram or a state license does not make a useful agent…don’t hire on that basis.State law is state law.
Now, can a business make their own policies? Of course they can!
It's Your Option to go along with them, or not.
Professional mechanics exist...
Yet, some people Choose to fix there own cars and build their own engines.
And, some people even fix their own boats!!!
Are you trying to insinuate, that only the chosen individual, is capable of learning how things work in this world?
And the rest of us are just lemmings that should follow blindly?![]()
Great point! No I am certainly not saying that. My point is related to commissions savings (very little if any) and the underestimation of a professional’s ability and results. Instagram or a state license does not make a useful agent…don’t hire on that basis.
Furthermore, this midset is a uniquely CA thing due to the nanny laws. It’s Ironic considering that the seller pays by either cutting the check or lower price in lieu of.
There is a distinct reason that wealthy families have a real estate advisor….and it’s not because they didn’t have time to DIY.
Some asshats on forums are finance graduates, financial advisors, residential and commercial realtors, residential and commercial contractors. Some asshats have done all of those things…lol.I posted the laws for AZ.
I would think CA would be different.
A financial advisor is one thing. It seems like most people on here have one! I do, and I'm certainly not a baller!
A real estate advisor? Probably a good idea if you're looking at buying a few shopping malls or commercial properties. But for a personal residence??
I think you're making a Much bigger deal about this, than it is.
Now granted, buying a personal residence is probably THE biggest financial decision Most of us will ever make! So being cautious is definitely a good thing.
Please take the RE class the agents take to get their license. Educate yourself. This way, you'll understand Exactly what you can, and can't do, yourself.
Asshats on forums, think they know everything!![]()
Out here on lake keowee SC it's 5 percent 2 1/2 eachIf you are looking in Havasu I wonder why no one has suggested to go to River Daves wife, they have their shit together and I am guessing her team knows more about the town and trends better than most. Not going to speak for them but I bet they are not afraid to negotiate for you and work with the commission. We have a family member selling a 2+ Mil house in Cali and the buyer and seller are each paying 2% of the commission. I personally have bought and sold over a dozen properties and my wife is my broker during these sales and we have never paid over 4% on purchase or sale. Just my opinion.
Some asshats on forums are finance graduates, financial advisors, residential and commercial realtors, residential and commercial contractors. Some asshats have done all of those things…lol.
You do you boo…
I wasn’t sure who you meant…no big deal.I was mainly referring to me...
But, whatever. Good luck!![]()
You passed the test. You should be showing him the Havasu listings. LolI was mainly referring to me...
But, whatever. Good luck!![]()
Rivermobster,
I am told that this is not correct unless I am working with someone not associated with MLS.
It is a realtor who is saying this.
They say I have to sign a buyer-broker agreement 100% or they can't show me anything.
This whole thread is retarded. If your only choice was the sea of half ass moonlighting licensed realtors I understand going it alone even without much commission savings. However, professionals exist…and they are easily 2.5% better than yourself…even in the most extreme circumstances.
Consider that secret spilled!The irony is everybody thinks this NAR settlement now puts them in the driver seat and they’re gonna save all this money. What nobody’s talking about is the fact that commissions have actually gone up since the settlement lol
100%,They say it’s a neutral market in Havasu. But the reality is. If you’re a buyer, seller is more than likely still paying both sides of commissions.
Then your going to beat them up on price.
Seeing some houses dropping prices by 10-20%. Some even selling for less than same house sold for two years ago.
It’s a buyers market!
All great information. Thanks for clarifying.Actually no, you need to know a lot more. You have cherry picked one item out of a full article that needs to be read in its entirety to fully grasp what is being said. Below is that article. And here are the facts.
Actually no, you need to know a lot more. You have cherry picked one item out of a full article that needs to be read in its entirety to fully grasp what is being said. Below is that article. And here are the facts.
This is NATIONWIDE not state specific. For ALL Realtor Brokerages.
Due the recent National Association of Realtors (NAR) settlement ALL Realtors nationwide as of 8/1/2024, must now have a Buyer Broker Agreement in place BEFORE any door can be opened. This includes doing any video tours.
The only exception to this requirement are as follows;
If you work with a real estate agent who NOT a REALTOR. (Like hiring a handyman for a licensed contractor job) There are a few around but really is that who you want to use to purchase one of your largest financial investments through?
If you attend an open house. The Seller’s Realtor will be at the open house showing the home on behalf of the Seller. You may attend without a Realtor and without a Buyer Broker Agreement. That Realtor may tell you about the home. HOWEVER, the moment you become further interested in that home and wish to write a contract you WILL have to sign a Buyer Broker Agreement BEFORE any negotiations can occur.
For Sale By Owner. No Realtor, no BBA required.
Get used to the Buyer Broker Agreement because it is the new nationwide standard that ALL Realtors are bound to. If there is an unscrupulous Realtor who shows you a home without a Buyer Broker Agreement they jeopardize not only their compensation but also they can lose their settlement protections from NAR. Honestly, would you want to trust negotiations with your financial investment to a Realtor who does not adhere to the standards, code and ethics that NAR sets forth to protect consumers?
You are correct this is NOT state law - but we are mandated by NAR and our Broker that if we do not have a Buyer Broker Agreement in place BEFORE we show a home we will not be paid and our Broker could fire us. Hence, all Realtors will be adhering to the guidelines.
That said there are some things that you can do to make signing a Buyer Broker Agreement more palatable.
You may set it up to be for just one property.
Or shorten the duration to 1 day, 1 week or 1 month.
You may also request to cancel a BBA if you decide your Realtor is not working out.
Lastly, right now 99.9% of Seller’s are still picking up the tab for the Buyer’s Broker. But instead of knowing what the Seller is offering ahead of time, we now have to negotiate the Buyer Agent compensation as part of the purchase contract. That Addendum is called a Seller Compensation Agreement. So though you are entering into a Buyer Broker Agreement that discusses you, as the Buyer, will compensate the Buyer’s Broker - it also states that you give permission the Buyer’s Broker to accept their compensation from the Seller in lieu of the Buyer as per terms of the negotiated purchase contract. So it is the same result that we are used to, just a different way to document the path to compensation.
Please educate yourself with the full story and understand the details before you advise others. But don’t just take my word for it, or the National Association of Realtors or the Arizona Department of Real Estate (see article below). Call your trusted Realtors and ask them. We are all in this together and it is a change many of us are not thrilled about but we have to bide by the requirements of the settlement that NAR accepted on our behalf.
Don’t hate the messenger this wasn’t my idea. But it is important that you all understand the new normal and what the expectations are moving forward with a future real estate purchases with your favorite trusted Realtors. Check out these sources below for further details and clarification.
https://azre.gov/consumer-advisory-buyer-broker-agreements
https://www.nar.realtor/the-facts/nar-settlement-faqs#consumer
If you read all my posts...
You'll see that the only advice I am giving is for people to educate themselves! Yeah?
I’m not sure I see it that way because your post said “all you need to know” and it wasn’t exactly accurate.
RD
It was accurate, in relation to the discussion of the "new laws" that started back in October 24. Basically, the OP's original question. Yeah?
Now, was it accurate in relation to "everything you need to know about buying a house"?
Not no, but fuck no!
I figured folks could figure that out for themselves? Maybe? Maybe not!
But I've said over and over again...
Educate Yourself on what You need to know.
It takes a village. Financing. Escrow. Title insurance. Agents. Brokers. The list goes on and on.
The class I took was a six month class. Long and sometimes teadious.
But well worth it.![]()
The real estate classes prepare you for the business about as much as high school prepares you for the real world.Now, was it accurate in relation to "everything you need to know about buying a house"?
Not no, but fuck no!
I figured folks could figure that out for themselves? Maybe? Maybe not!
But I've said over and over again...
Educate Yourself on what You need to know.
It takes a village. Financing. Escrow. Title insurance. Agents. Brokers. The list goes on and on.
The class I took was a six month class. Long and sometimes teadious.
But well worth it.![]()
What class did you take that is six months? That is lo no get than it takes to get an RE license? lol
That’s not to say that just because someone takes an re class they are gonna know anything.. it takes years of deals and precarious situations under knowledgeable people before someone gets good at it.. and even then some people have ethics and others don’t etc.
RD
The real estate classes prepare you for the business about as much as high school prepares you for the real world.
Budget 10% to sell your house. Budget, not actual cost. Figure 3% each agent so that's 6% and figure 4% to please the bullshit the buyer will request.What is an acceptable % for the seller to pay at closing for a 500k price range home?
Budget 10% to sell your house. Budget, not actual cost. Figure 3% each agent so that's 6% and figure 4% to please the bullshit the buyer will request.
The new rules would have you paying the difference between what the sellers are paying and your agreement with your buyer’s agent.I actually had a realtor in the past NOT show me a home listing that matched my requirements for who knows why.
I found out the sellers were only offering a 1% or 2% commission to the buying agent.
I bet this new law is to prevent this exact scenario where the realtor skips low paying listings.
I actually had a realtor in the past NOT show me a home listing that matched my requirements for who knows why.
I found out the sellers were only offering a 1% or 2% commission to the buying agent.
I bet this new law is to prevent this exact scenario where the realtor skips low paying listings.
My thought is (by NOT showing the buyer compensation in the listing a realtor cannot choose to skip showing it based on a low %) like in the past.I’m not the expert on it, but I’m not sure how this new settlement would affect that scenario.
That said like I say often on here.. You needed a better realtor. lol
RD
LOL! River Dave's entire real estate team uses the required Buyer Broker agreement - as does every other Realtor nationwide.My thought is (by NOT showing the buyer compensation in the listing a realtor cannot choose to skip showing it based on a low %) like in the past.
That said, I am looking for one. Do you know any that don't require a buyer-broker agreement?
My thought is (by NOT showing the buyer compensation in the listing a realtor cannot choose to skip showing it based on a low %) like in the past.
That said, I am looking for one. Do you know any that don't require a buyer-broker agreement?
Must be something in the buyer agreement on how agent gets compensated. I’m not sure how that is determined before any negotiations take place with a seller. Kind of ass backwards if you ask me. If it works that way.If the seller doesn't pay the commission the buyer does.
If seller says they will not pay. Find another house. There is over 500 to chose from.
I have not heard of any cases where the seller doesn't end up paying the commission like it used to be.
I have not seen how it's worded or written but can ask.Must be something in the buyer agreement on how agent gets compensated. I’m not sure how that is determined before any negotiations take place with a seller. Kind of ass backwards if you ask me. If it works that way.![]()
I have not seen how it's worded or written but can ask.
Probably says Buyer will pay the commission amount of X percent if the seller does not.
I know I have been to a few open houses where I had to sign a form to enter. Forgot what it stated.
Must be something in the buyer agreement on how agent gets compensated. I’m not sure how that is determined before any negotiations take place with a seller. Kind of ass backwards if you ask me. If it works that way.![]()