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I had an Absolute disaster entrusting these folks to work on my boat. I am not really into writing reviews on business. I usually just don’t give them my busines ever again, but this experience had to be shared so it did not happen again to other folks.

According to some positive reviews of this shop, I made the decision to bring my boat to them to help with a problem with an Ilmor having a few Cylinders not sparking. On May 23rd I contacted the shop and set up an appointment for June 7th ,Thursday thinking midweek might be a little bit slower and after Memorial Day. I drove from OC out to my house, which is on the CA side (Havasu landing) on Wed, June 6th. Woke on the 7th at 0500 and hit the road towards Havasu City. Arrived at Absolute at 0755 just as they were opening their doors. Gave them my name and for 10 mins they could find no paperwork of my appointment which caused some concern seeing I just towed the boat 90mins from the CA side, but they located a daily printed schedule they had just my name and phone number on it.

Aaron, owner and lead mechanic asked me what was going on with the motor which I explained to him some of the steps already taken to remedy the problem and found the main problem is the motor had 4 cylinders that do not spark. I already took the lead and had Ilmor send me a brand new set of coil packs and had them sitting in the boat when I dropped it off. Aaron was very nice and said “we will get right on it”. I left and drove back the CA side to wait it out for the next few days. After an entire day went by and I heard nothing, I finally called the shop to see how it was going. Aaron told me he had a mechanic call in sick and he need to hold on to the boat over the weekend and really dive into It beginning Monday of the following week. I told him go ahead and do what you got to do. During that conversation Aaron told me he might need a few more parts and I immediately offered to contact Ilmor and get them ordered. As soon as I hung up with him, I contacted Ilmor ordered the parts and had them next day shipped directly to his shop. On Tuesday (June 12) I called the shop to confirm the parts made it there. Cheryl (wife, co-owner) confirmed parts made it there and the boat was being worked on. I asked Cheryl to have Aaron call me at the end of the day to give me any info he could. End of day passed and no call, no worries probably was busy. I called mid day next day and spoke with Cheryl on how things were going and she said Aaron got a little busy but would be working on my boat later that afternoon and again I asked for him to give me a call at the end of the day. No call was made again. I called the following, now which was one week the boat had been there and again got the response that shop was busy but rapping up a few things and starting on my boat. I let the end of the week and weekend pass to give them some time to work.

I called Monday morning and asked what the progress was and cheryl said Aaron had just finished a boat that gave unexpected problems and was starting on my that afternoon. I told her I understood, but would like Aaron to give me a call at the end of day. End of day came again and no call. I called the following day and told cheryl I didn’t recive a phone call and asked if any work was started on the boat, she said no. I told her I had family coming out to the lake that weekend and the whole trip was dependent on the boat running and I was out of time. I told her I was going to reach out to a couple of shops to see if they could pick up the slack seeing they we overwhelmed with work at the time. She said she understood and recommended a few shops. All the shops declined to take on the repair and said they too were busy and didn’t want to let the boat sit for weeks without any work started.

I called cheryl at Absolute back and told her my trip and plans were resting in their hands. She assured me the boat would be repaired and my trip would still on. I called back the following day (now two full weeks at the shop) to get any progress and cheryl said Aaron was starting on it. I again asked if Aaron could give me a call at end of day, but no call ever came. Now the following day comes, which is one day before the family is scheduled to leave and I have no indication whether the boat is going to be running. Finally I receive a call from cheryl and she informs me Aaron was not able to correct the problem and need an additional part and if I could call Ilmor and check to have it over nighted to them. Of course I called Ilmor and no way that was a possibility. That same day I called Aaron to confirm which part was neeed and got no answer, but his voicemail asks to text him if he doesn’t answer. I sent three different text messages through out the day with no response. I ended up having to cancel my trip and again the following day text Aaron asking for the specifics to order the needed part but got no response. Now it’s almost 3 weeks sitting there with no progress.

I now decided I need to pick up the boat and move on to another shop to get the boat running before the summer is half way over. I had my father-in law head out to pick it up. I contacted the shop and spoke to cheryl on a Friday at 1030am to inform her the boat will be picked up the next day, Saturday, a busines day. She told me they would not be able to accommodate that because they were closing the shop Saturday, but she offered to have the boat set in the driveway of their house for pick up. I agree and payed them 3.5 hours of labor ($400ish). She called me back and said Saturday would not work now because the boat needed it’s engine hatch and back seat re-installed. Reminder, it’s 1030am on a Friday and she told me they were leaving out of town for the weekend. I told her after all I had been through I needed the boat put back together and ready for pick up. She agreed.

My father-in law arrives at their home to pick up the boat. He calls me and says in the entire decade he has know me he has never seen any of my boats ever look as dirty as mine did now. He described the boat and trailer looking as if it was “off roaded”. He also took a look around and the back seat was just placed in the boat and all the hardware securing it was no where to be found and there was two different types of fluid all over the motor and in the engine compartment.

So to cap off a long story, I spent a bunch of money, time and effort to be completely let down. I am fully understanding that unforeseen problems come up, but the lack of communication is unacceptable. These folks at Absolute are very nice people but are extremely lacking in communicating with their customers and time management. I have seen good reviews of this shop, but my experience with keep me from every using them again and compelled me to share and warn others of them.
 

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I've used Absolute for years. Nothing but great service. Sorry your experience wasn't a good one. Cheryl and Aaron have always been nothing but the best.
 

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Man how frustrating. Sorry to hear about the boat and I would imagine it would be harder to find a illmore tech to get it done vs a Merc motor.

With all the business these shops get, I can see customer service going out the window once and awhile. Just slammed all day everyday. If that’s the case tell the truth and say you don’t have time for it. Leaving the boat like that to pick up is bullshit.

What ended up being the issue?


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The problem is Aaron and Cheryl don't know how to say "no." It's actually a problem with a lot of shops out here..

Someone will call and they will say "We are booked out" but then the person will tell them about a family vacation coming up, and then the shop owners will try to squeeze them in and think "Well I'll just look at it after hours". Trying to help the person out.

Unfortunately then you have a couple things go wrong, and a couple more guys squeeze in, and then asshole RiverDave comes by and needs his shit fixed like right now because we are on the way to the lake.. LOL (joking)

But ultimately what happens is they burn the midnight oil and do the best they can, and someone ends up getting let down. In this particular case they would have been better off just to say "We are too busy to take the job right now, but if you come back in 3 weeks."

As for the condition of the trailer.. The boats don't go anywhere, so I don't know how it could look "offroaded." They just go in the shop / out of the shop.. Or towed straight from the shop to Aaron's house in the case of the late pickup.

I am a bit surprised to hear the backseat wasn't re-installed.

Overall Aaron and Aerial have never let me down when I have had them do things for me. There's a ton of people on RDP that have the same positive experiences..

Can't win them all I suppose. :(



I'm sorry to read about the OP's experience.

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I went by the shop a few weeks ago. Boats were parked all over the alley and streets. Where do they keep them at night. No way they all fit inside the shop. Outside in the lot?
 

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I can’t tell you how many customers try to tell my they are having a once in a lifetime family reunion on their boat and have to have it right now. Lol like you didn’t know you were planing this once in a lifetime trip months before you needed your boat repaired?
 

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Exact opposite experience for me with Absolute, exceptional service in every way. I wouldn’t think of going anywhere else.
 

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Sucks for your experiences, but Dave is right. There’s more work then people can handle during peak season and the small shops suffer Incases like this.


I’ve called Aaron on a Friday with a broken boat, they got my boat in that night and out in the morning. They gave me 2-3 options and his work was flawless.


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Every shop is crazy busy. To top it off, you have an Ilmor that could pose problems. I have not heard one story in the last two seasons where their boat was done quickly and on time...well, I got mine done fast, but I show up and talk their ears off so my shop gets me done fast.
 

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Totally agree with RD about shops being busy and not saying no but the OP didn't just drop a bomb on Aaron, he had made an appointment for this specific work well before his planned trip.
It's very unfortunate all around but it easy to see how it can, does and will happen with more than just one shop.
 

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I have the same experience with EVERY shop I have dealt with in Havasu. Tired of it. Started wrenching on things myself as much as possible.

If you aren't in the "Kustom" club, good luck getting anything done in a timely manner.

And last week, when I drove down Acoma, there was dozens of boats all lines up in streets and alleys. No-one is hurting in Havasu right now for boat work, thats for sure. I guarantee these boats sit out at night.
 

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I can’t tell you how many customers try to tell my they are having a once in a lifetime family reunion on their boat and have to have it right now. Lol like you didn’t know you were planing this once in a lifetime trip months before you needed your boat repaired?

Well, you beat me to it...

I know nothing about Absolute whatsoever. But I know plenty about customers who want their stuff worked on just before they go on vacation.

This mentality amazes me every time.

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Inside every good tool box you can find the solution to your problem. Go get your hands dirty instead of complaining about people trying to help you. I don’t know what you do for a living nor do I care, karmas a bitch. Those people stuck there necks out to accommodate you and you shit on them. Service is there lively hood. Do you think they feel good about the situation? This is the absolute worst time of the year to ask for boat service anywhere in North America. Next time do it your self or be a little more understanding and patent. This is on you, not them you had a deadline to make. You should have asked some very specific questions pertaining to the time frame. And if you didn’t feel comfortable about it you should have moved on. Stop being a keyboard jockey screwing with peoples business. I don’t know these people and have no real dog in the fight. But I know what it’s like to bust my ass for people who don’t appreciate a thing.



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Inside every good tool box you can find the solution to your problem. Go get your hands dirty instead of complaining about people trying to help you. I don’t know what you do for a living nor do I care, karmas a bitch. Those people stuck there necks out to accommodate you and you shit on them. Service is there lively hood. Do you think they feel good about the situation? This is the absolute worst time of the year to ask for boat service anywhere in North America. Next time do it your self or be a little more understanding and patent. This is on you, not them you had a deadline to make. You should have asked some very specific questions pertaining to the time frame. And if you didn’t feel comfortable about it you should have moved on. Stop being a keyboard jockey screwing with peoples business. I don’t know these people and have no real dog in the fight. But I know what it’s like to bust my ass for people who don’t appreciate a thing.



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I could agree with you.... but .... he made the appointment to get work done, and the business never returned phone calls, and 3 WEEKS go by with basically nothing done ... ?

Sorry, but I’m thinking the business could have done better. My brother had work done with them about 5 years ago... although the work was done in a timely manner.... they never called him, with an update when they said they would. ... NEVER. I have seen this complaint before as well. I think they should set aside some time to make phone calls or email to customer to update the status of their boats. It’s not rocket science to provide updates.
 

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I’ve only used them once. Easter trip last year had a slow water leak into the boat and a oil leak from out drive. Absolute was the first shop to pick up in the morning. They had it done the next day. Saved our trip. I’d recommend them and/or use them again in a heartbeat.
 

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maxed out marine busted a service out fast with little notice, all over the phone picked it up and everything
 

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Absolute has always gone out of their way to accommodate myself and my customers. Aaron is a genuinely nice guy. I’m sure like Dave said he hardly ever says no. I can see the snowball effect happening when you schedule a boat for x amount if time. Then it needs more parts. Then you have to re schedule the time when you’re already over booked. Then you need more parts. Then another boat needs more time. Before you know you’re two weeks behind and you have ten people you’re trying to save their vacations for at the same time. There just isn’t anyone to hire, any where to store boats inside, and enough time in the day to satisfy everyone. But yes, Aaron needs to say no more often. Or tell a customer like yourself, it wasn’t what you thought it was, more parts need to be ordered. You’ll have to bring it back in a couple weeks when I have time to look at it again. Idk. Not telling Aaron how to run his business.

Sorry you had a crappy experience.




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I have the same experience with EVERY shop I have dealt with in Havasu. Tired of it. Started wrenching on things myself as much as possible.

If you aren't in the "Kustom" club, good luck getting anything done in a timely manner.

And last week, when I drove down Acoma, there was dozens of boats all lines up in streets and alleys. No-one is hurting in Havasu right now for boat work, thats for sure. I guarantee these boats sit out at night.

Most shops will put them inside, or inside of a locked gate. I don't know of any respected shops that just leave them out on the street?

RD
 

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I can’t say I have a negative experience with them. Any time I needed a service done, they’d schedule me that morning and it would be done later that day. They even went as far as to put new tires on the trailer as they needed them.

My only issue would be, I had an issue with my tuning (or so I thought). I had it there several times to try and figure out what it was, but was always given a clean bill of health (but far from it).

I eventually took it to another shop and the problem was discovered literally within seconds of firing it up.

So I can’t say I’ve had any negative experiences with them. Overall they were always timely and always answered when I called. I understand that some people can diagnose problems differently or quicker than others so I’m not sure if I’d constitute it as a negative.

Sorry to read about your bad experience but this is peak season right now. Your best bet is to call Alexi at boostpower as he seems to be a IImor guru these days!




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Well, you beat me to it...

I know nothing about Absolute whatsoever. But I know plenty about customers who want their stuff worked on just before they go on vacation.

This mentality amazes me every time.

o_O

I have to agree a lot of folks wait until the last possible minute to get their shit fixed when it could have been taken care of over the winter when most shops are starving for work. I personally already have appointments set up with a glass shop & adrenaline trailers for October & November to get some maintenance items addressed. I’m not taking my boat to a mechanic in peak season unless it’s something I can’t do myself because I know I’m not going to see it again for 30 Days Minimum this time of year.

As for Absolute not calling the OP back, unfortunately this seems to be an inherent problem with all shops in Havasu. I’m not sure why it’s so hard to call your customers (who are paying you) back with a status update? It drives me fucking nuts too!!!
 

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I have the same experience with EVERY shop I have dealt with in Havasu. Tired of it. Started wrenching on things myself as much as possible.

If you aren't in the "Kustom" club, good luck getting anything done in a timely manner.

And last week, when I drove down Acoma, there was dozens of boats all lines up in streets and alleys. No-one is hurting in Havasu right now for boat work, thats for sure. I guarantee these boats sit out at night.
I cant speak for other shops, but i know aaron wont leave anything out at night. He has called me before to ask if i cared that he brought my boat back to his personal house to store since he was out of space at the shop

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I feel bad for this guy who got shit on by absolute! I know his pain as we did too (many years ago). He made an appointment and kept his end of the deal overnighted parts and still no calls back or work of any kind. This was done 3 weeks in advance of his trip.

My take on the problem is absolute and all shops make their money by turning boats quickly. So when a guy calls and says my water pump is broken (because he neglected service) and he is starting his ten day vacation the shop does that because it’s easy and 600 bucks. When a guy calls and says my engine beeps because of a drive oil problem absolute does that and 1000 bucks later boom. But this guy who needed a problem fixed, but isn’t easy to diagnose was shit on by a shitty shop. They were never going to fix it and keep dragging it on.

Like other have said they are all bad! Unless your in the “club” or have money to burn your sol.

My .02 man up and either fix this guys boat which he will pay for. Or call him and say I am sorry for not being able to fix in a timely manner and cut your losses.

You would think these shops are only not busy maybe 2 months a year now that they would figure out to get some help or make some time for phone calls!
 

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Inside every good tool box you can find the solution to your problem. Go get your hands dirty instead of complaining about people trying to help you. I don’t know what you do for a living nor do I care, karmas a bitch. Those people stuck there necks out to accommodate you and you shit on them. Service is there lively hood. Do you think they feel good about the situation? This is the absolute worst time of the year to ask for boat service anywhere in North America. Next time do it your self or be a little more understanding and patent. This is on you, not them you had a deadline to make. You should have asked some very specific questions pertaining to the time frame. And if you didn’t feel comfortable about it you should have moved on. Stop being a keyboard jockey screwing with peoples business. I don’t know these people and have no real dog in the fight. But I know what it’s like to bust my ass for people who don’t appreciate a thing.



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I believe he made an appointment and agreed to pay for their services.....
 

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It’s really not that easy to find quality technicians these days. I prefer to turn work away rather then hire a subpar tech that could ruin my reputation and cost me money rather then make money. I don’t understand the problem with the Havasu shops not communicating. I’m big on it I will stay late to make sure if I promise to call them back to pick up the phone or even email and text from home or weekends after hours. It’s an easy thing to do and it’s key to great customer service!
 

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The “I hate to say no” issue is pretty common, and as you can see it can sometimes backfire despite the best intentions.

The better solution is to manage the expectations of your customers, being transparent.

This can sometimes lead to giving an answer your customer doesn’t want to hear, but it beats the alternative which is the situation described by the OP.

Difficult conversations sooner in the process, are ALWAYS preferable to even-more-difficult conversations later in the process.
 

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Inside every good tool box you can find the solution to your problem. Go get your hands dirty instead of complaining about people trying to help you. I don’t know what you do for a living nor do I care, karmas a bitch. Those people stuck there necks out to accommodate you and you shit on them. Service is there lively hood. Do you think they feel good about the situation? This is the absolute worst time of the year to ask for boat service anywhere in North America. Next time do it your self or be a little more understanding and patent. This is on you, not them you had a deadline to make. You should have asked some very specific questions pertaining to the time frame. And if you didn’t feel comfortable about it you should have moved on. Stop being a keyboard jockey screwing with peoples business. I don’t know these people and have no real dog in the fight. But I know what it’s like to bust my ass for people who don’t appreciate a thing.



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If I was getting jerked around by a pool builder would you tell me to build my own damn pool next time??
 

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Inside every good tool box you can find the solution to your problem. Go get your hands dirty instead of complaining about people trying to help you. I don’t know what you do for a living nor do I care, karmas a bitch. Those people stuck there necks out to accommodate you and you shit on them. Service is there lively hood. Do you think they feel good about the situation? This is the absolute worst time of the year to ask for boat service anywhere in North America. Next time do it your self or be a little more understanding and patent. This is on you, not them you had a deadline to make. You should have asked some very specific questions pertaining to the time frame. And if you didn’t feel comfortable about it you should have moved on. Stop being a keyboard jockey screwing with peoples business. I don’t know these people and have no real dog in the fight. But I know what it’s like to bust my ass for people who don’t appreciate a thing.



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The guy made an appointment, they agreed to do the work, he was let down and offered horrible service and a lack of simple communication, I think he has every right to bitch.
 

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I have used Aaron since the Savage days and happily followed him for his knowledge,skill and honest personality. Over the years Absolute has worked on all my boats and typically gets the job done when promised and even some surprise last minute repairs “on way to the ramp”..... but honestly I take crazy good care of any of my boats and the surprise is just that and rare. With this said I have and plan to continue using Absolute for all my repairs and will continue to recommend. Sorry for the OP experience and most of all hope you are back on the water (soon).
 

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This guys post is dumb. He towed his boat 90 minutes because they have a good reputation/or he already pissed off all the shops around him? Bringing your own parts to the repair shop is disrespectful and is cutting into the shop owners profits. And call out thread on 1st post. Tasteless..
 

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Damn...
First post&the guy goes "full shred" on Absolute?
I dunno,seems a just a little bit agenda driven to me.
Surprised more people haven't picked up on that.

Back when I kept my Eliminator stored in Havasu Aaron pretty much saved a couple of my weekend's by squeezing me in to help get me back on the water.

No issues ever with Absolute.
 

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This guys post is dumb. He towed his boat 90 minutes because they have a good reputation/or he already pissed off all the shops around him? Bringing your own parts to the repair shop is disrespectful and is cutting into the shop owners profits. And call out thread on 1st post. Tasteless..
I see reading comprehension is not on your side.. Yes he brought some parts and Cheryl asked him to get more. So I guess they didn't mind.
" Finally I receive a call from cheryl and she informs me Aaron was not able to correct the problem and need an additional part and if I could call Ilmor and check to have it over nighted to them."
 

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Ditto.I already took the lead and had Ilmor send me a brand new set of coil packs and had them sitting in the boat when I dropped it off.
 

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Damn...
First post&the guy goes "full shred" on Absolute?
I dunno,seems a just a little bit agenda driven to me.
Surprised more people haven't picked up on that.

Back when I kept my Eliminator stored in Havasu Aaron pretty much saved a couple of my weekend's by squeezing me in to help get me back on the water.

No issues ever with Absolute.
Isn't this the problem tho? If they keep squeezing people in the guys that make appointments get pushed back...
 

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Most shops will put them inside, or inside of a locked gate. I don't know of any respected shops that just leave them out on the street?

RD
Saw several boats sitting outside off of Acoma and they didn't move the entire week we were there. Passed by everyday and shook my head.

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I would think someone in Havasu that knows the shop would check out this story and see if it's how it went down. In the meantime...
 

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I used Absolute this year for my service after the last shop f'd me (they all have stories right?). No issues, everything as said it would be. But I can also tell you, my house is up off Havasupai, I use Windsor to launch, so I'm up and down that street all the time. Sometimes we go out early, sometimes really late coming in. And several times I can recall thinking to myself, damn they are there really early, or really late today. Even on Saturdays. And a lot of times its his truck and her SUV both sitting there. So its def not for a lack of trying and putting in the time. I asked around, and bad stories was a rarity with Absolute, but just like pretty much all the shops in havasu, they all have a few bad stories. Sucks for the OP, but perception of a side of the story is always different.
 

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Normally I'd agree...
But this was on a Sunday night.
So he really didn't save a couple of your weekends... "Aaron pretty much saved a couple of my weekend's by squeezing me in to help get me back on the water.":)
 

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There are 3 sides to every story. Having had excellent service from Aron I'm very curious to hear what his side may be.

Starting work on your problematic rig in late May when you you've had something planned for mid late June or the 4th of July is simply a disaster waiting to happen.

Regardless of what panned out with Absolute the OP should save some of his letter writing for his own bad decision making.


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It’s really not that easy to find quality technicians these days. I prefer to turn work away rather then hire a subpar tech that could ruin my reputation and cost me money rather then make money. I don’t understand the problem with the Havasu shops not communicating. I’m big on it I will stay late to make sure if I promise to call them back to pick up the phone or even email and text from home or weekends after hours. It’s an easy thing to do and it’s key to great customer service!

No truer words exist than simply jobs get completed in Havasu on "Havasu Time" and the best quality most businesses in Havasu are blessed with are good intentions, execution, well not so much, especially if the wind stops blowing and everybody goes boating. :rolleyes:
Included on this list are every boat repair business and every construction company I've worked with in the past 20 + years there.
One glowing exception I and a few others have discovered is Darrell @ Robinson Automotive, he's an orchard in a field of weeds.

My only suggestion is, lower your expectations and toss your watch and calendar, you've entered the "Havasu Dimension", where time is only relative to perception.:D
 

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So he really didn't save a couple of your weekends... "Aaron pretty much saved a couple of my weekend's by squeezing me in to help get me back on the water.":)

3 day weekends...
Live in Albuquerque
1100 mile roundtrip.
Keep trying...slick.
 
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