Any updates on Beachcomber?

[Briley]

Just tried to look at beachcomber website, because I figured some trailers would be going up for sale. Unfortunately site is down...I wonder if this is the beginning of the end of the "outer ring". If they separate park amenities then we in the inner circle will have no pool, clubhouse or launch ramp.

 

[Subadvantage]

BEACHCOMBER UPDATE--

Representatives of the new management (meaning the office and maintenance staff) attended a park meeting this morning to answer questions about the new owner's intentions and the new lease agreements. Owner has some lofty goals of rebuilding the roads in the park using pavers, remodeling and adding to the existing recreation center, extending the docks and adding a breakwater (apparently they have already been in conversations with the Army Corps of Engineers), and other aesthetic improvements. What's this gonna cost you ask? Space rents in the park will increase anywhere from $227 to more than $700 each month (that's 38-100% or more depending upon your location) to cover the nut, including that $30 million lease!!!!!! :yikes. To boot, use of the docks will fetch a $10 per day fee and numerous other $5-30 "Added Rent" charges are contained throughout the agreement. I thought there was going to be a lynching this morning. I guess the new owners were savvy enough to send the staff and stay away. However, too many questions were left unanswered as a result.

The staff was running throughout the park last night trying to find snow bird renters. Some folks near me happen to be visiting from Canada. They arrived under the old management and leased the unit for 3 months. The new owners are forcing them to sign a new lease agreement with a $250 monthly increase or leave. That will sure fuck up your plans!

The staff also confirmed that the new owners are seeking to purchase the mobile home section from the Santiagos. In their words, "so we can remain one, big, happy family." Are you fucking kidding me?!?!? As someone in the audience suggested, "if you own there....RUN and sell as fast as you can, if you still can." For me, I own my park model and will ride it out for a year to see where this goes. Unfortunately, I can't pull up stakes like all the RV'ers indicated they will be doing. Doing so means just walking away from the damn thing. Fuck! :grumble:

 

[RiverDave]

That is crazy..

 

[BMABITY]

Yikes, what a disaster! Good luck to those invloved!

 

[pronstar]

CA law versus AZ law may be different...but if a tenant has a lease agreement with the previous owner, I believe they would have grounds for a lawsuit if the new owner changed the terms.

Happened to the building we live in at Belmont Shore. The new owner kicked everyone out who was on a month-to-month, but he was forced to honor the preexisting leases that some tenants had.

 

[Subadvantage]

CA law versus AZ law may be different...but if a tenant has a lease agreement with the previous owner, I believe they would have grounds for a lawsuit if the new owner changed the terms.

Happened to the building we live in at Belmont Shore. The new owner kicked everyone out who was on a month-to-month, but he was forced to honor the preexisting leases that some tenants had.

My guess is that most, if not all, were on month to month leases with the previous owners as I was. What further complicates this whole deal is this is AZ State land and the new owner submitted the winning bid for a 38 year lease. Not sure if much of anything applies to publicly leased land. At these rents, I'll be house shopping soon.

 

[grumpy88]

That really sucks sorry to hear it .

 

[Briley]

BEACHCOMBER UPDATE--

Representatives of the new management (meaning the office and maintenance staff) attended a park meeting this morning to answer questions about the new owner's intentions and the new lease agreements. Owner has some lofty goals of rebuilding the roads in the park using pavers, remodeling and adding to the existing recreation center, extending the docks and adding a breakwater (apparently they have already been in conversations with the Army Corps of Engineers), and other aesthetic improvements. What's this gonna cost you ask? Space rents in the park will increase anywhere from $227 to more than $700 each month (that's 38-100% or more depending upon your location) to cover the nut, including that $30 million lease!!!!!! :yikes. To boot, use of the docks will fetch a $10 per day fee and numerous other $5-30 "Added Rent" charges are contained throughout the agreement. I thought there was going to be a lynching this morning. I guess the new owners were savvy enough to send the staff and stay away. However, too many questions were left unanswered as a result.

The staff was running throughout the park last night trying to find snow bird renters. Some folks near me happen to be visiting from Canada. They arrived under the old management and leased the unit for 3 months. The new owners are forcing them to sign a new lease agreement with a $250 monthly increase or leave. That will sure fuck up your plans!

The staff also confirmed that the new owners are seeking to purchase the mobile home section from the Santiagos. In their words, "so we can remain one, big, happy family." Are you fucking kidding me?!?!? As someone in the audience suggested, "if you own there....RUN and sell as fast as you can, if you still can." For me, I own my park model and will ride it out for a year to see where this goes. Unfortunately, I can't pull up stakes like all the RV'ers indicated they will be doing. Doing so means just walking away from the damn thing. Fuck! :grumble:

I am now sorry that I asked...thanks for info and I may be looking for house sooner than later.

 

[BHC Vic]

I am now sorry that I asked...thanks for info and I may be looking for house sooner than later.

Buy in bullhead [emoji106][emoji2]

 

[crzy2bealive]

They lost my business

 

[Briley]

Buy in bullhead [emoji106][emoji2]

Find us a place with a big pull barn or garage we can store our Cobra's...

 

[OutCole'd]

I wonder what this will do to the other parks, Islander and Crazy Horse. I'm going to guess big increases every where. I know Islander is raising their rates. We'll see how high they go.

 

[cmeir]

I wonder what this will do to the other parks, Islander and Crazy Horse. I'm going to guess big increases every where. I know Islander is raising their rates. We'll see how high they go.

Havasu springs is the best deal out there 2 bars restaurant. My ex wife has a place on front row For sale its great price

 

[That Guy]

Havasu springs is the best deal out there 2 bars restaurant. My ex wife has a place on front row For sale its great price

Link?

 

[mjc]

I just read in the Havasu paper that the SandBar Grill will not be opening this year. His lease is up and the lease was obtained by the Island Inn. So is this going to buy up all the leases and screw everybody to make his money back.

 

[OutCole'd]

I just read in the Havasu paper that the SandBar Grill will not be opening this year. His lease is up and the lease was obtained by the Island Inn. So is this going to buy up all the leases and screw everybody to make his money back.

Wow, That sucks. Are they going to start serving Slurpee's??

 

[stephenkatsea]

Sandbar Grill had the best burgers in town and the ladies who ran it were always great.

 

[Wendi]

My friend has a mobilehome and just got notified via mail that their rent will increase from $700 to $1000 per month, not including electricity. Also they were told if they didn't sign the lease agreement they could walk away. Her unit is old but looks out over the water. I'm sure they aren't signing the new lease agreement. They could barely afford the $700 per month plus electric.

Being that this is BLM Land I thought there were rules and regulations set as to how much the owner could increase the rent? a percentage a year? I believe on Parker Strip at Riverland they can only increase $22 - $25 per year which falls within that percentage rule.

 

[OutCole'd]

Residents of the Beachcomber RV Park must leave by March 2 if they don?t sign new lease agreements that, in some cases, more than double existing rents.
The new owner of the park, Peter Patel, presented the new agreements to the park?s residents on Monday.
The new lease requires residents sign the agreement and pay a security deposit by Feb. 26 or vacate the park by March 2. The park now operates under the name Sam?s Beachcomber RV Park and is owned by Sammy?s Island LLC, of which Patel is the main agent.
Cheryl Wells, who has paid for a lakefront lot at the park since 1989, said on Tuesday she doesn?t yet know if she will sign the new lease. She has made around $10,000 of improvements to the site in the last couple of years, building decks, awnings and retaining walls and updating the inside of her home with granite counters and new floors.
?It?s very unsettling,? Wells said.
The base rent for Wells? site, which sits high atop a cliff with an expansive view across the lake, would increase from $623 a month to $1,325, under the new lease, she said.
The new lease would cover about $100 in fees that had been add-ons under the old one, but the new management also was adding fees for use of the docks as well as increasing the price for boat storage.
Wells said she was concerned about her neighbors, many of whom are retired winter visitors on fixed-incomes that rent from the underlying leaseholders. She plans to wait and see what other people in the area decide and if there was any more information about the future of the park before making a final decision on the lease.
?They are in complete turmoil because if their owner?s rent goes up, theirs will too,? she said of the seasonal renters.
A group of those renters stood on the porch of the property they rent Tuesday afternoon discussing the uncertainty and flood of rumors that pervaded the park and said they didn?t know how the changes would impact them.
Meanwhile, the residents of Beachcomber Mobile Home Park, which remains under the ownership of Santiago Enterprises, are wondering how the new arrangements will impact the access to amenities ? bathrooms, laundry rooms, a pool and clubhouse and boat docks ? they have enjoyed a the RV Park.
?When we decided to be here, (access to the docks) was one of the advantages,? said Michelle Atta, who lives in the mobile home park. ?I have a Waverunner that I won?t be able to put in the water.?
Santiago used to own and manage the RV Park and the mobile homes before losing out on the RV Park during an Arizona State Land Department public auction at the end of January. At the auction, Sammy?s won the 38-year lease for the property for more than $30 million.
Despite rumors soaring through both locations that Sammy?s was in negotiations with Santiago to purchase the mobile home side, Santiago manager Jim Hill said the company had not been approached with an offer and that a sale of the site was not a part of discussions.
Hill said the company was still negotiating with Sammy?s over the sale of personal property Santiago still owned within the RV Park as well as whether access would be allowed to the mobile home residents.
He said there are no rent increases planned at the mobile home park, but they could be considered after the company has a better understanding of what the future will hold.
?We will have to look at the possibility of putting some of those amenities in the mobile home park,? Hill said.

 

[PVHCA]

My friend has a mobilehome and just got notified via mail that their rent will increase from $700 to $1000 per month, not including electricity. Also they were told if they didn't sign the lease agreement they could walk away. Her unit is old but looks out over the water. I'm sure they aren't signing the new lease agreement. They could barely afford the $700 per month plus electric.

Being that this is BLM Land I thought there were rules and regulations set as to how much the owner could increase the rent? a percentage a year? I believe on Parker Strip at Riverland they can only increase $22 - $25 per year which falls within that percentage rule.

I'm only going off my experience in CA. Owners are allowed to raise the rent as often as they want with a 3 month notice if memory serves me correct. Most owners raise the rent when the CPI moves upward.

In this case Sammy better be careful,he's got a big nutt to bust each month, he could have everyone leave and have an empty park.

 

[Wendi]

I'm only going off my experience in CA. Owners are allowed to raise the rent as often as they want with a 3 month notice if memory serves me correct. Most owners raise the rent when the CPI moves upward.

In this case Sammy better be careful,he's got a big nutt to bust each month, he could have everyone leave and have an empty park.

I used to have the BLM Red Book rules but lost them in my computer when I crashed. Oh I'm certain Sammy is going to have an empty park. Not worth $1000 plus a month to not own your land. Especially when you can buy a home in Havasu around $200k and pay just about that for your house payment

 

[Advantage 1]

I would imagine this will mess up folks' summer plans. Damn.

 

[Taboma]

Wendi, this is not BLM land, it's Arizona State Trust Land.

I've always considered us lucky we weren't on Indian land --- HA HA, what's the fucking difference, as far as the State of AZ is concerned we might as well be cattle grazing on their land, to them it's all $$$$$$, fuck the people.

Sure we can refuse to sign the lease, not so sure about walking away, maybe. The notice states you will remove your personal property, which means your now useless Park Model, awnings, decks etc. That's just another added expense. In many cases, especially for the water front units there's simply no replacing those views and water access, plus the huge bucks you spent for the original purchase. We're lucky, we bought on the water almost 20 years ago, but we still paid big bucks, but nothing compared to folks who've purchased in the past several years, we're talking $ 90K to over $ 200K. That's hard to walk away from, especially if you've dumped another $ 10K to $ 100K into the place. I feel horrible for many of our neighbors, it's ugly, essentially it's friggin apparently legalized extortion.:grumble:

I'm pouring over our new lease now, yup, $ 1,325 a month, it sucks, but so does the alternative. In our case we can afford to stay, for now, we'll take it as it comes and try to enjoy it for as long as we can. Best case we can at least at some point in the future recoup some of our initial investment, at the last, we'll enjoy one of the best views on the lake while we're able.

For us, as it was for so many, it was a very emotional weekend.

As far as Peter Patel goes :finger ----- and yes I realize, it's just business and another day in the office for him.

I'm just so happy at least the story made it into the Herald, not that it will shame this greedy asshole.

 

[lalhc]

I'm only going off my experience in CA. Owners are allowed to raise the rent as often as they want with a 3 month notice if memory serves me correct. Most owners raise the rent when the CPI moves upward.

In this case Sammy better be careful,he's got a big nutt to bust each month, he could have everyone leave and have an empty park.

Sounds like he wants everyone out to complete repair/upgrade work and to start fresh with new folks & leases.

 

[Stainless]

Wendi, this is not BLM land, it's Arizona State Trust Land.

I've always considered us lucky we weren't on Indian land --- HA HA, what's the fucking difference, as far as the State of AZ is concerned we might as well be cattle grazing on their land, to them it's all $$$$$$, fuck the people.

Sure we can refuse to sign the lease, not so sure about walking away, maybe. The notice states you will remove your personal property, which means your now useless Park Model, awnings, decks etc. That's just another added expense. In many cases, especially for the water front units there's simply no replacing those views and water access, plus the huge bucks you spent for the original purchase. We're lucky, we bought on the water almost 20 years ago, but we still paid big bucks, but nothing compared to folks who've purchased in the past several years, we're talking $ 90K to over $ 200K. That's hard to walk away from, especially if you've dumped another $ 10K to $ 100K into the place. I feel horrible for many of our neighbors, it's ugly, essentially it's friggin apparently legalized extortion.:grumble:

I'm pouring over our new lease now, yup, $ 1,325 a month, it sucks, but so does the alternative. In our case we can afford to stay, for now, we'll take it as it comes and try to enjoy it for as long as we can. Best case we can at least at some point in the future recoup some of our initial investment, at the last, we'll enjoy one of the best views on the lake while we're able.

For us, as it was for so many, it was a very emotional weekend.

As far as Peter Patel goes :finger ----- and yes I realize, it's just business and another day in the office for him.

I'm just so happy at least the story made it into the Herald, not that it will shame this greedy asshole.

I realize there's no upside for you residents bc of the cost to move, and then where? Hope you guys can hold his feet to the fire for the promises he's making as far as improvements go. [emoji17]

 

[28Eliminator]

Sounds like he wants everyone out to complete repair/upgrade work and to start fresh with new folks & leases.

That would be my guess as well. I wouldn't be surprised if this guys "lofty goals" aren't realistic. Lakefront property is pretty rare in Havasu city. That location could be a pretty nice resort if someone was willing to throw a bunch of money at it.

I've stayed at the Beachcomber a couple times, and like most, wasn't impressed. Not trying to be a dick, but that place really needs a facelift bad. For those that can stick it out, it might be worth while.

On another note, doing real estate improvements on leased property that you don't own..... Well, you know.

Sucks for everyone there.

Has anyone checked this guy out?

 

[Subadvantage]

That would be my guess as well. I wouldn't be surprised if this guys "lofty goals" aren't realistic. Lakefront property is pretty rare in Havasu city. That location could be a pretty nice resort if someone was willing to throw a bunch of money at it.

I've stayed at the Beachcomber a couple times, and like most, wasn't impressed. Not trying to be a dick, but that place really needs a facelift bad. For those that can stick it out, it might be worth while.

On another note, doing real estate improvements on leased property that you don't own..... Well, you know.

Sucks for everyone there.

Has anyone checked this guy out?

I googled the hell out of Peter Patel and Sammys Island LLC. It appears that he is an owner at Advance Management & Investments, LLC. The business is out of Kingman (same business address as Sammys Island)and is in the hotel development and management business. They own and manage several hotels in the Havasu area including the Island Inn. Makes one wonder.

 

[Subadvantage]

I contacted the city and received the following email from one of their planners:

I have received several emails and phone calls regarding this topic in the last couple weeks. I have begun each response by stating that the new owners have not approached our department/division with any proposed changes or new development ideas regarding the site. Further, I am not a land use attorney and do not know your legal rights and please don?t misconstrue any of the following statements/information provided without seeking advice from the properly qualified individuals. That said, The property is owned by the State of Arizona. As you are aware, they have their own process when it comes to leasing their property. They also have their own planning review/approval processes in place whereby a leaseholder must get approval from the state for new uses, buildings, development on any of their lease sites. In the past, the City has been given the opportunity participate and comment on proposed developments during their review process.

From the City's point of view:

The property has a General Plan land use designation of Resort Related and a zoning classification of A-1, Limited Agricultural. I have included an excerpt from the General Plan describing Resort Related below.

Resort-Related. Denotes areas intended to serve and primarily support the resort industry of Lake Havasu City and the tourists and visitors the industry attracts. A primary purpose of the Resort-Related classification is to provide guaranteed public access to, and the public use of, all parts of the Island and Shoreline. Uses within the Planned Resort-Related classification may include service, commercial, and retail uses (e.g., boat rentals, sales and repairs, hotels, motels, restaurants, and shopping facilities); and recreational uses (e.g., marinas, golf courses, parks and recreational trails). Shoreline access corridors shall be provided as required. Shoreline building setbacks for boundary, adjacent shoreline public access easement should be: 20 feet free public access side and 40 feet other. Resort-related classification does not allow RV resorts or mobile home parks.

The current policy of the City Council based on the General Plan statement above, is not to allow any additional RV resorts or mobile home parks on the island. The existing uses were all established prior to City regulation. A-1, Limited Agricultural is not a proper zoning designation and obviously does not reflect the current use of the property. Over the years, the State Land Department has had the opportunity to rezone the property to something that more accurately reflects the current uses, but has chosen not to do so. In order to make development changes to the site, some review process will have to be followed. Exactly what that process will be, I am not sure at this time since this is the first lease in recent memory to be purchased by a different party with the potential of changing/expanding land uses. However, I can assure you that any action required by the City, i.e., General Plan amendment, rezoning, or conditional use permit, will require public hearings.

Sorry, I cannot shed more light on the future development of the property, as anything along that line would be speculation on my part. If you have any further questions regarding our processes or contact with the new owners, please let me know.
Stuart Schmeling, AICP
Lake Havasu City
Senior Planner

 

[Backlash]

This thread is hard to read because it stirs up plenty of emotions.....and I am not a resident at either facility where I'm sure this all hits closer to home and is much more personal.

This situation sucks for everyone involved. With that being said, my thoughts go out to those residents who are faced with these upcoming decisions.

It's unfortunate that someone with deeper pockets and an agenda has come along and ruined what so many families have come to enjoy.

Mr. Patel, I hope every single one of the current residents leaves and takes their shit with them and gives you a big "F YOU!" on their way out.

I hope you are left holding the keys to an empty and desolate locale where YOUR hopes and dreams will never come to fruition.

I hope you are the happy owner of a place where nobody wants to go and visit because of the way you have treated the current residents.

Good luck.

 

[Singleton]

Since I am blacklisted from the Island Inn and the same guy owns Beachcomber, wonder if I am black listed from his new property.

I argued the resort fee at the island inn and won, however is has resulted in being black listed. Thinking it I for the best now.

 

[boatpi]

My first place in Havazoo was a mobile at the beachcomber, a $5,000 1966 trailer. Put about 8K into it and a lot of sweat. Loved it for what it was, great water access, dock for my Doo, mid-week runs up river, etc. But I realized that some day this would happen. It was clear to me that at any time, for no reason at all Santiago could raise the rent with 60 days notification. As such I kept the investment low.
I really feel for everyone their. No matter hat his plans are, he is heartless. This will make the Beachcomber the most expensive place in Havazoo, give me a break. BPI

 

[teded]

I posted this back in 2012, no replies

 

[Wendi]

I encourage the residents to get together and consult with an attorney asap. That new lease is a complete joke and he is not giving anyone time to process it or even try to sell their place. At this point with the new rent I'm sure selling will be tough.

 

[Mandelon]

Beachcomber RV Resort has renewed a long-term lease with the state for its home on the Island, but someone else still has a chance to outbid Beachcomber at a public auction next month.
The 38-year lease negotiated between the State Land Department and Beachcomber becomes the starting point for a public auction on Jan. 29 in Kingman. Anyone licensed to transact business in the state can make a bid on the lease.
Other state land-owned properties on the Island, including Crazy Horse Campground, are working to renew leases that expire early next year. Some of them have discussed short-term renewals with the state.
The 47-acre lot on the shores of Lake Havasu was valued at $7.1 million during the lease process, with $700,000 worth of improvements made by Beachcomber during its tenure on the property.
During the auction, bids start at $7.1 million and go up in $100,000 increments. If a new owner wins the auction, they must reimburse Beachcomber for the improvements.
The lease allows the property be used for a ?recreational vehicle resort with office and clubhouse, boat ramps and slips, boat storage, and related amenities.?
Under the new lease, the rent is either 4 percent of the appraised value ? just over $283,000 ? or 10 percent of rental receipts, whichever is more. In the sixth year of the lease, the value increases 5 percent and another 5 percent every five years after.
Beachcomber manager Jim Hill said a long-term lease would bring stability to the property, allowing management to make more improvements to the resort and easing sales of some of the homes owned by residents.
?We?ve been holding off on doing stuff, because we don?t want to pour money into improvements when we won?t get it back,? Hill said.
He said management would assess plans after the public auction and didn?t rule out the possibility that prices may have to be increased to fulfill the lease requirements in the coming years, if the property stays under Beachcomber?s management.
Hill said he and other staff at Beachcomber have informed the park?s residents and owners that they have finalized the lease but still need to get through the public auction before long-term certainty finally returns.
?We are telling them that we are more than sure that we can get it but that is no guarantee,? he said.

 

[YoPengo]

I'm going to be the bad guy here but...

This is exactly why I saved up a bought a house in Havasu. No lease, no landlord and this won't ever happen.

Everyone has complained about the place for years "needs updating"... It takes a shitload of money to do that.

If I invest millions and want to improve the property (my investment).... I'm going to clean house... get rents in line with the competition and start to make improvements.

If you've enjoyed cheap rent for years... Good for you but EVERYONE knows that this happens and that is the risk you take. Now that is has happened... You have a choice to make.

My guess is that some will stay... some will leave and new people who are willing to pay for lake front accommodations will roll in.

It is prime real estate... I don't blame the owner.

Fire away...

 

[TCHB]

My friend has a mobilehome and just got notified via mail that their rent will increase from $700 to $1000 per month, not including electricity. Also they were told if they didn't sign the lease agreement they could walk away. Her unit is old but looks out over the water. I'm sure they aren't signing the new lease agreement. They could barely afford the $700 per month plus electric.

Being that this is BLM Land I thought there were rules and regulations set as to how much the owner could increase the rent? a percentage a year? I believe on Parker Strip at Riverland they can only increase $22 - $25 per year which falls within that percentage rule.

Time to buy a home in Havasu and control your own spot.

Best thing we ever did was leave a park on the Parker Strip.

 

[Singleton]

I'm going to be the bad guy here but...

This is exactly why I saved up a bought a house in Havasu. No lease, no landlord and this won't ever happen.

Everyone has complained about the place for years "needs updating"... It takes a shitload of money to do that.

If I invest millions and want to improve the property (my investment).... I'm going to clean house... get rents in line with the competition and start to make improvements.

If you've enjoyed cheap rent for years... Good for you but EVERYONE knows that this happens and that is the risk you take. Now that is has happened... You have a choice to make.

My guess is that some will stay... some will leave and new people who are willing to pay for lake front accommodations will roll in.

It is prime real estate... I don't blame the owner.

Fire away...

Have to agree. Only issue I have is the short notice he gave to current renters. Having to make a decision in 10 days sucks. He could of done that in a much more professional way.

 

[Bobby V]

Anybody know when the Islander lease is up.

 

[OutCole'd]

Anybody know when the Islander lease is up.

They just renewed it in the last two years. But I do see them raising their rents to compete with the Beachcomber.

Pay $600.00 at the Islander or $1,000+ next door, really??

 

[Bobby V]

They just renewed it in the last two years. But I do see them raising their rents to compete with the Beachcomber.

Pay $600.00 at the Islander or $1,000+ next door, really??

Do you know how long the renewal is for.?

 

[YoPengo]

Do you know how long the renewal is for.?

Hurry up and get a spot... Ill need a place to hang out.

 

[OutCole'd]

Do you know how long the renewal is for.?

Not sure really, I thought it was 99 years, but not positive at all.

 

[Bobby V]

Hurry up and get a spot... Ill need a place to hang out.

Buying a MoHo seems more practical at this point. Rent goes up you can just leave.

 

[lalhc]

Can this owner build a hotel on the Beachcomber land? If so, it sounds like he wants everyone out to do so.

 

[Taboma]

New lease agreements have been distributed and being executed. If he wanted everybody out, he would have just sent letters telling everybody to get the F**ck out

 

[Abc123]

Since I am blacklisted from the Island Inn

Haha! What's this story?

 

[Singleton]

Haha! What's this story?

They wanted to charge me resort fees. On the reservation confirmation it said nothing about resort fees. Front desk said you have to pay! I got pissed, yelled at front desk (looking back I was an ass). Called AmEx as I sat in parking lot warming up truck. I told AmEx I wanted refund on resort fee only. AmEx decided I should pay nothing after reviewing confirmation I received and I got a full refund.

The next week I pull into the Island Inn again at 2am with a fully paid reservation and was told mgmt no longer will honor my reservation and not allow me to check into the reservation I had. Called Hampton, got room and told Island to fuck off. Called AmEx that night again, got refund for full amount again. I will never go back and never stay at a property owned by that ownership again!

 

[Abc123]

They wanted to charge me resort fees. On the reservation confirmation it said nothing about resort fees. Front desk said you have to pay! I got pissed, yelled at front desk (looking back I was an ass). Called AmEx as I sat in parking lot warming up truck. I told AmEx I wanted refund on resort fee only. AmEx decided I should pay nothing after reviewing confirmation I received and I got a full refund.

The next week I pull into the Island Inn again at 2am with a fully paid reservation and was told mgmt no longer will honor my reservation and not allow me to check into the reservation I had. Called Hampton, got room and told Island to fuck off. Called AmEx that night again, got refund for full amount again. I will never go back and never stay at a property owned by that ownership again!

That's shitty. I made a reservation there, showed and thought the place was an absolute shit hole. My room stunk and they refused to move me to a different room (without a fee) or refund me. I called around and found another place to stay.

 

[Stainless]

Seems every other Indian(dot) has last name Patel, similar to Navajos with last name Begay.

 

[Bobby V]

Seems every other Indian(dot) has last name Patel, similar to Navajos with last name Begay.

And Nguyen