Cummins swap questions

[E4L]

Does anyone know a shop that does cummins swap. The only one I have found is a place in Colorado called Destroked. Please let me know if you know of anything. Thanks

 

[707dog]

Check out left coast diesel up our way one of the guys Adam (winspeed)boats with us. They build and run some bad azz trucks

 

[OCMerrill]

While being a Cummins supporter and thinking this will be super cool thing to do...check the smog laws and make sure you can register it when complete. Hate to see this go sideways like my original Hemi Swap for my previous Jeep.

 

[JD D05]

Does anyone know a shop that does cummins swap. The only one I have found is a place in Colorado called Destroked. Please let me know if you know of anything. Thanks

Destroked makes some nice products. Saw a number of adapter plates come from them to convert, my friend did a few conversions.

How close of a shop you looking for? I know some guys in Arizona, and Utah.

 

[McRib]

When I was looking into this a few years ago the only destroked Auth installer outside Colorado was in phx. The kits are so easy a good local mech could do it with no problems. I've been a destroked fan for a long while. They have come along way since 06. I had my hands on a 24v 06 cummins motor a few years ago but come up with all the money when the seller wanted it by. In cali you have to go same year or newer. That was the rule in 06. It may have changed since then.

 

[E4L]

Thanks for all the good positive info

 

[Meaney77]

As much as we all know the Ford 6.0 is a huge piece of shit it still just seems wrong to drop a cummins in it.... That's like bad karma shit....

On a side note- a few years ago when I was staying at The Islander their was a guy who had an old 70's Ford crew cab that was fully restored and had a Cummins in it. It was pretty cherry!

 

[rivrrts429]

As much as we all know the Ford 6.0 is a huge piece of shit it still just seems wrong to drop a cummins in it.... That's like bad karma shit....

It can't be any worse than the bad karma the 6.0 turned out to be lol

 

[plaster dave]

Jetdriver on here is doing one on his F250 right now. Send him a pm.

 

[Riverbound]

I would be all over a cummins super duty.

 

[DeltaSigBoater]

I would be all over a cummins super duty.

With an Alison Transmission :thumbup:

 

[dread Pirate]

There's a few running around up here. Ponci's did them. Run damn good too!

For smog laws, it has to be a motor of the same year or newer than the truck and must have the emissions that came on that motor. pretty basic, bt keeps from going to a 12V. Unless you live in a smog exempt county like I do.

 

[boat527]

Pretty straight forward up here in Wa... Diesel Vehicles are exempt from emissions testing too.. ( lucky me)

What vehicles are inspected by the State Patrol?

The State Patrol performs physical inspections on vehicles that have been rebuilt after being destroyed or declared a total loss by an insurance company. They also will perform physical inspections as required on vehicles reported stolen, homemade vehicles, or other vehicles without a proper VIN, when there is a VIN discrepancy, when there is a record dispute, when ownership is in doubt, or other special cases.

Do rebuilt vehicles have to be completely repaired prior to the inspection?

Yes. RCW 46.12.560 addresses citizen's responsibilities prior to obtaining an inspection. It states in part, "A vehicle presented for inspection must have all damaged major component parts replaced or repaired to meet RCW and WAC requirements before inspection of the salvage vehicle by the Washington State Patrol." The WSP will only inspect complete vehicles.

RCW 46.80.010 (5) defines major component parts to include at least each of the following: 1) Engines and short blocks, 2) Frame, 3) Transmission and/or transfer case, 4) Cab, 5) Door, 6) Front or rear differential, 7) Front or rear clip, 8) Quarter panel, 9) Truck bed or box, 10) Seat, 11) Hood, 12) Bumper, 13) Fender, and 14) Airbag.

Note: If the vehicle was originally manufactured with both a driver and passenger side airbag, both need to be replaced prior to the inspection.

What information is needed at the time of the vehicle inspection?

When arriving for your inspection, be prepared to present the following information:
Picture I.D.; current registration, title or Notarized Bill of Sale, and/or copy of title sent to insurance company.
The letter from the DOL indicating why you need the appointment (or knowledge it is in the DOL computer file).
Receipts for all major component parts. Receipts for major component parts purchased via the internet and/or e-bay will not be accepted as original receipts. Be sure receipts are legible and include the invoice date, invoice number, business address, and stock number or VIN used as parts donor vehicle.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Left Coast Diesel in Concord or Livermore, pretty sure they are converting a few old cars right now.

 

[BUDMAN]

What's the cost of swapping in a cummins and what's the advantages?

 

[STV_Keith]

Where are you located? Cali or Havi? J&H Performance in Redding Cali used to do swaps too. I remember they had a Cummins in an older RamCharger that ran pretty good. Joel & Harvey were the guys.

 

[Abc123]

What's the cost of swapping in a cummins and what's the advantages?

No longer having that pile of shit 6.0 under the hood.

 

[JD D05]

With an Alison Transmission :thumbup:

Built 4R and the new 6R are darn good. I would get a BTS.

 

[JD D05]

Just put this in.

 

[soupersonic]

A2Z Diesel here in Mesa AZ does good work. Ben Spencer 480-288-0177.

 

[pronstar]

With an Alison Transmission :thumbup:

It's been done.
Hugely expensive thus far is what guys who have done it are posting, and the tranny won't hold big power...most guys who have done the Cummins swap aren't interested in making stock power.

A built 47/48RE is the more common solution, but you're limited to the 4 speeds of the 'box.

The 68RFE is a god tranny, and the Aisin unit is awesome, but I'm not aware of anyone who has managed to get one to work with a 5.9

 

[Ibeplumbing]

Ppe in Fullerton in OC does swaps. Gonna be expensive but they will do it. I loved my superduty, if I had ever done a swap into my superduty it would be a 5.9 cummins. I'm in love with my 5.9 now. Amazing motor. Makes my old 6.0 look like a turd

 

[Spot]

A few questions you have to ask yourself... How long are you going to keep the truck and what you plan to do with it? You can do some extreme bullet proofing for less than a swap! If you choose to do it, I would only use Domestic Diesel in Chino Ca. These folks are the as honest as they come and will get you taken care of. People get their trucks towed here from all over the west coast. I have no affiliation with this place other than being a satisfied customer. The 6.0 isn't the devil, these guys can fix it for a reasonable price. You may not need all the extra work other shops try and sell you.

 

[Ibeplumbing]

Bottom line, swaps aren't worth it. Get a new truck, save yourself the headache. 6.0's can be good and can be a turd, regardless of what you do. They have the known issues and alot of others, as well as other motors. As stupid as it sounds, replacing mechanical parts doesn't always fix the issue. Been through alot of 6.0 issues and done all the fixes, won't always fix the problems. The only issue I still have with the 6.0 is that it will never operate as good as a well kept 5.9 cummins from 05-07. That's not saying all but most. The swaps are not cost effective for most people as most people keep a vehicle 3-5 years. You won't see the return or the value on a swap

 

[E4L]

Bottom line, swaps aren't worth it. Get a new truck, save yourself the headache. 6.0's can be good and can be a turd, regardless of what you do. They have the known issues and alot of others, as well as other motors. As stupid as it sounds, replacing mechanical parts doesn't always fix the issue. Been through alot of 6.0 issues and done all the fixes, won't always fix the problems. The only issue I still have with the 6.0 is that it will never operate as good as a well kept 5.9 cummins from 05-07. That's not saying all but most. The swaps are not cost effective for most people as most people keep a vehicle 3-5 years. You won't see the return or the value on a swap

Here is where Im at. I cant get a new excursion they dont make them anymore and I love it. I just wish it had new bells and whistles. Even if I dumped 20k into it Im still cheaper then a new truck. There is a company back east that does excursions they are like 80k. If I did the cummins swap I would back it with a allison.

 

[E4L]

My Ex is a 7.3 just turned 301k.

I stopped at a junk yard today the guy had a 90k miles 5.9l out of a 2006 he said he would sell me motor complete all smog exhaust and computers for $6500.

 

[E4L]

Just put this in.
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what the hell is this haha

 

[Bigbore500r]

I say go for it......a cummins excursion would be the ultimate zombie apocalypse vehicle

 

[pronstar]

My Ex is a 7.3 just turned 301k.

I stopped at a junk yard today the guy had a 90k miles 5.9l out of a 2006 he said he would sell me motor complete all smog exhaust and computers for $6500.

Thankfully, the only smog equipment for the 5.9 is a cat.
There's in-cylinder EGR, but it's done by the cam and is part of the engine's design, so really no smog shit to worry about.

 

[E4L]

Or on the other hand spend 90k

http://www.customautosbytim.com/

 

[Ibeplumbing]

Being that you already have a 7.3, why not just rebuild the 7.3? That's a great motor. I'm not sure about an Allison swap to that, but you can get a sun coast kit the trans and it will be a monster trans. It would be alot cheaper than a cummins swap. You can do the 05-07 front end kit for a newer look. New bumper in rear. 08-10 style mirrors. Interior is the only part that really can't be upgraded using stock stuff. But you could always re wrap the seats, new carpet and do a color change on the interior....if you did a cummins swap it would be awesome though. There are a little more hiccups than it looks like though. Pedal sensors, clutch fans, stuff like that. All do able

 

[rivrrts429]

Being that you already have a 7.3, why not just rebuild the 7.3? That's a great motor. I'm not sure about an Allison swap to that, but you can get a sun coast kit the trans and it will be a monster trans. It would be alot cheaper than a cummins swap. You can do the 05-07 front end kit for a newer look. New bumper in rear. 08-10 style mirrors. Interior is the only part that really can't be upgraded using stock stuff. But you could always re wrap the seats, new carpet and do a color change on the interior....if you did a cummins swap it would be awesome though. There are a little more hiccups than it looks like though. Pedal sensors, clutch fans, stuff like that. All do able

This is what I would do. There are a couple of guys on the Ford Truck forums doing this. They look badass and have all new running gear in a proven platform.

 

[E4L]

Being that you already have a 7.3, why not just rebuild the 7.3? That's a great motor. I'm not sure about an Allison swap to that, but you can get a sun coast kit the trans and it will be a monster trans. It would be alot cheaper than a cummins swap. You can do the 05-07 front end kit for a newer look. New bumper in rear. 08-10 style mirrors. Interior is the only part that really can't be upgraded using stock stuff. But you could always re wrap the seats, new carpet and do a color change on the interior....if you did a cummins swap it would be awesome though. There are a little more hiccups than it looks like though. Pedal sensors, clutch fans, stuff like that. All do able

Yes this is always a option. I also really wish my tranny would have tow haul mode and would down shift like the new ones do when hitting the breaks.

 

[Spot]

Bottom line, swaps aren't worth it. Get a new truck, save yourself the headache. 6.0's can be good and can be a turd, regardless of what you do. They have the known issues and alot of others, as well as other motors. As stupid as it sounds, replacing mechanical parts doesn't always fix the issue. Been through alot of 6.0 issues and done all the fixes, won't always fix the problems. The only issue I still have with the 6.0 is that it will never operate as good as a well kept 5.9 cummins from 05-07. That's not saying all but most. The swaps are not cost effective for most people as most people keep a vehicle 3-5 years. You won't see the return or the value on a swap

This ... The only real benefit is if it's a work truck getting thousands of miles a year. Like tow trucks, transport trucks etc...

 

[JD D05]

Here is where Im at. I cant get a new excursion they dont make them anymore and I love it. I just wish it had new bells and whistles. Even if I dumped 20k into it Im still cheaper then a new truck. There is a company back east that does excursions they are like 80k. If I did the cummins swap I would back it with a allison.

What trans is in your truck now? An Allison swap is not worth it...

 

[JD D05]

what the hell is this haha

P pumped (mechanical) 7.3...1600 HP on fuel.

 

[E4L]

What trans is in your truck now? An Allison swap is not worth it...

Stock tranny behind the 7.3

 

[bonesfab]

Been there done that and love it. I took a 600 plus hp 509 out of my truck and swapped in a slighty modded cummins 12valve and it is great. Then I swapped in the Allison a1000 5speed and it works pretty well. It went from 7-8 mpg to 14-15 mpg. And it doesn't care what is hooked to it.. I am actually in the middle of another swap now into my bus. 1954 chevy short bus with a compound turbo 12 valve and a nv 4500 5-speed. Not done yet but getting there.. None of it is cheap but it is less than a new truck and it is something different. If you have any questions just ask. You a can see them on my website Bonesfab.com under personal projects.

 

[707dog]

Or on the other hand spend 90k

http://www.customautosbytim.com/

the 6 doors look sick...fok a caddy a pimp need one of those... mo doors+mo hoes= mo money

 

[E4L]

the 6 doors look sick...fok a caddy a pimp need one of those... mo doors+mo hoes= mo money

Mo problems

 

[JD D05]

Stock tranny behind the 7.3

4R100?