Going rate for block retaining wall

[WYRD]

Ok Mason's what is the going rate for a standard 5' retaining wall with footing in the ie area?

 

[wzuber]

Ok Mason's what is the going rate for a standard 5' retaining wall with footing in the ie area?

No such thing as a "standard 5' retaining wall". So many variables here from existing soil composition to what the wall is retaining, city's requirements etc., accessibility, engineering, permits, concrete spec. etc. etc. There's a lot of engineering involved there. I wouldn't be surprised at a $100.00/l.f.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

this must be so cal

 

[wzuber]

in the ie area?

indeed it is.

 

[WYRD]

No such thing as a "standard 5' retaining wall". So many variables here from existing soil composition to what the wall is retaining, city's requirements etc., accessibility, engineering, permits, concrete spec. etc. etc. There's a lot of engineering involved there. I wouldn't be surprised at a $100.00/l.f.

Just looking for ball park budget numbers. Have design and permit in hand and doing all the excavation & hauloff myself. Soil is stable class A and access is easy. Concrete is a 2500 psi @28 spec.

100/ft for a complete turn key seems legit. Are you a contractor?

 

[Melloyellovector]

You will not get 5ft retaining in ca for anywhere near 100plf. Your looking at min 150plf on 5ft w standard gray block, plus grading/cutting hillside if not existing or backfilling upper area to grade, plus water proofing, plus permit fees

 

[2FORCEFULL]

You will not get 5ft retaining in ca for anywhere near 100plf. Your looking at min 150plf on 5ft w standard gray block, plus grading/cutting hillside if not existing or backfilling upper area to grade, plus water proofing, plus permit fees

I find this kinda weird,if that's the right word,..builders in havasu build houses with no walls... they push the dirt to a 2to 1 slope and leave it..little tract home patios and driveways.. no retaining walls... there was a house by mine built..builder was saying my price was high.. and he was 80k cheeper...his was 1500 sq ft, only 2 bath, garage was only 50' deep, and no walls done, mine 1835 sq ft. 3 bath, 70ft deep garage, all retaining walls done, dirt raise to level..40 x 60 deep paver drive.so new owner gets to do all the walls and dirt work after they buy..low price shopping in havsu doesn't all ways work...funny that people don't notice that when they buy... or just figure it won't be that much...I can say this...havasu block work is getting higher and higher...not long ago you could get 40'' retaining walls done for 35 bucks PLF, and that was splitfaced colored, or gray with colored stucco....I used to do the stucco walls... but it seems that its not if they are gonna be a problem.... its when..just to get this lot ready for a house with a flat yard was way north of 60k

 

[Rbcconst]

Ok Mason's what is the going rate for a standard 5' retaining wall with footing in the ie area?

Call Kevin Collier 1 (909) 228-8810 he does all my block. You’ll be close to $100 a lnft for footings and gray block. Tell him Ron Bierma From RBC gave you the number.


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[WYRD]

You will not get 5ft retaining in ca for anywhere near 100plf. Your looking at min 150plf on 5ft w standard gray block, plus grading/cutting hillside if not existing or backfilling upper area to grade, plus water proofing, plus permit fees

Is that estimate for everything or just the wall with footing? I'm only looking for wall and footing estimates

 

[WYRD]

Call Kevin Collier 1 (909) 228-8810 he does all my block. You’ll be close to $100 a lnft for footings and gray block. Tell him Ron Bierma From RBC gave you the number.



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Thank you for the recommendation and estimates

 

[WYRD]

I find this kinda weird,if that's the right word,..builders in havasu build houses with no walls... they push the dirt to a 2to 1 slope and leave it..little tract home patios and driveways.. no retaining walls... there was a house by mine built..builder was saying my price was high.. and he was 80k cheeper...his was 1500 sq ft, only 2 bath, garage was only 50' deep, and no walls done, mine 1835 sq ft. 3 bath, 70ft deep garage, all retaining walls done, dirt raise to level..40 x 60 deep paver drive.so new owner gets to do all the walls and dirt work after they buy..low price shopping in havsu doesn't all ways work...funny that people don't notice that when they buy... or just figure it won't be that much...I can say this...havasu block work is getting higher and higher...not long ago you could get 40'' retaining walls done for 35 bucks PLF, and that was splitfaced colored, or gray with colored stucco....I used to do the stucco walls... but it seems that its not if they are gonna be a problem.... its when..just to get this lot ready for a house with a flat yard was way north of 60k View attachment 746860

I'm quickly discovering this. Seems like the estimates I have been expecting were a little low. I too remember when block was around 40 per lf when I did my last one. But that was 15ish years ago and not retaining but it was 6' freestanding

 

[2FORCEFULL]

so after build cost of the house, another 100plus k to get to here...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I'm quickly discovering this. Seems like the estimates I have been expecting were a little low. I too remember when block was around 40 per lf when I did my last one. But that was 15ish years ago and not retaining but it was 6' freestanding

I hear yah, for what I spent on the yard and walls, I could have bought a matching magic deck boaht to sues cheetah...that would have been cool to have both in the garage,...

 

[TPC]

Much longer than what’s pictured.

140’ 5 course w/legit footing with removal of 5 layers of former RR ties. A mfsob removal job.
Just completed. Not IE but:
$9400 total cost in SIMI Valley.

Most masonry contractors we contacted are booked 2 years out and not accepting any more work.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

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Much longer than what’s pictured.

140’ 5 course w/legit footing with removal of 5 layers of former RR ties. A mfsob removal job.
Just completed. Not IE but:
$9400 total cost in SIMI Valley.

Most masonry contractors we contacted are booked 2 years out and not accepting any more work.

what are the block things in the gutter??? I would have used them for the cap...

 

[wzuber]

Just looking for ball park budget numbers. Have design and permit in hand and doing all the excavation & hauloff myself. Soil is stable class A and access is easy. Concrete is a 2500 psi @28 spec.

100/ft for a complete turn key seems legit. Are you a contractor?

yes I am But I no longer have a masonry crew. If your doing all the excavation yourself then you know how much footing conc. you need etc. You should be able to calc. all your material req. at least very close yourself, it's not rocket science just arithmetic, but it is a little time consuming. A decent mason with tender should be able to stack 125 blocks a day straight, clean and tooled joints etc. depending on your wall finish you can call Orco and inquire about 2 nds. and have a little cost per block. Call your local concrete mix co and negotiate a better price on your total volumn of conc. required for the job. The more you know about your specific job costs the better deal you can work with a contractor and better understand where he's at price wise.

 

[wzuber]

not retaining but it was 6' freestanding

apples to coconuts bro...haha

 

[wzuber]

. but it seems that its not if they are gonna be a problem.... its when

not my experience at all. If this is your experience then the walls are not built right.

 

[Havasu blue label]

Make sure the footings are done right and the key in the footing is not over kill shop it hire some blocks guys for 200 a day you would be way under budget what city

 

[TPC]

what are the block things in the gutter??? I would have used them for the cap...

They are bricks that I laid down in the rain that act as weirs to hold back mud from clogging the drain. Temp until I replant the hillside.

We had red apple ground cover that quickly gets way out of control. Going to replant with silver carpet that is gopher resistant. Or so it says on the tag.
No caps saved a few bucks and it matches the rest of the property.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

A lot....

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I find this kinda weird,if that's the right word,..builders in havasu build houses with no walls... they push the dirt to a 2to 1 slope and leave it..little tract home patios and driveways.. no retaining walls... there was a house by mine built..builder was saying my price was high.. and he was 80k cheeper...his was 1500 sq ft, only 2 bath, garage was only 50' deep, and no walls done, mine 1835 sq ft. 3 bath, 70ft deep garage, all retaining walls done, dirt raise to level..40 x 60 deep paver drive.so new owner gets to do all the walls and dirt work after they buy..low price shopping in havsu doesn't all ways work...funny that people don't notice that when they buy... or just figure it won't be that much...I can say this...havasu block work is getting higher and higher...not long ago you could get 40'' retaining walls done for 35 bucks PLF, and that was splitfaced colored, or gray with colored stucco....I used to do the stucco walls... but it seems that its not if they are gonna be a problem.... its when..just to get this lot ready for a house with a flat yard was way north of 60k View attachment 746860

I don’t think I’d ever build a block wall in Havasu. I think I’d just move to a house that already had one.

 

[HCP3]

Don't forget the cost for over-excavation, backfill and sub-drainage.

 

[boatdoc55]

I don’t think I’d ever build a block wall in Havasu. I think I’d just move to a house that already had one.

This right here!! We have a very good, retired friend that called us last month from Florida and he's done with down there and wants to move here to Havasu. Talked about building and what we thought. Try finding a nice lot, good luck. Try finding a builder that's not 2 years out, good luck. Plenty of nice places here in town for a 70 year old to buy without going thru building a new house and all it's head aches.
Called the other day and he'll be here the first of June to buy a completed house.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

A lot....

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nice.... you should stucco that wall, it would stick better

 

[Melloyellovector]

I find this kinda weird,if that's the right word,..builders in havasu build houses with no walls... they push the dirt to a 2to 1 slope and leave it..little tract home patios and driveways.. no retaining walls... there was a house by mine built..builder was saying my price was high.. and he was 80k cheeper...his was 1500 sq ft, only 2 bath, garage was only 50' deep, and no walls done, mine 1835 sq ft. 3 bath, 70ft deep garage, all retaining walls done, dirt raise to level..40 x 60 deep paver drive.so new owner gets to do all the walls and dirt work after they buy..low price shopping in havsu doesn't all ways work...funny that people don't notice that when they buy... or just figure it won't be that much...I can say this...havasu block work is getting higher and higher...not long ago you could get 40'' retaining walls done for 35 bucks PLF, and that was splitfaced colored, or gray with colored stucco....I used to do the stucco walls... but it seems that its not if they are gonna be a problem.... its when..just to get this lot ready for a house with a flat yard was way north of 60k View attachment 746860

Not sure what’s “weird “ about it. Rarely can you compare Havasu to CA building standards. Havasu is full of almost right contractors. Havasu guys tends to build what looks good on what you can see. Yes there are exceptions of guys that do great work done correct. But rare for Havasu.

Also comparing a 3-1/2ft retaining to a 5ft wall is apples to oranges. Most cities don’t even require engineering or permits for 3ft retaining, they’re considered planter walls. And to fudge a 3ft to 3.5 is pretty simple. No drainage requirements, minimal footing, minimal excavation, no rock backfill, the list goes on.

5ft retaining wall just concrete alone costs are close to 30plf for footing and cells.
Plus excavation footing
Plus 3 horizontal #4 bars in footing, vertical #4 24in o.c.
12 block must be used for first 24in
Water proofing backside
Drains and rock backfill
Block cost itself
Plus labor
It all adds up quick

No way in hell is anyone in the CA licensed and building correct a 5ft retaining wall for 20 per ft in height x 5 = 100 plf . Including all above

Cutting hillside/over excavate and backfilling is separate for retaining walls

 

[2FORCEFULL]

They are bricks that I laid down in the rain that act as weirs to hold back mud from clogging the drain. Temp until I replant the hillside.

We had red apple ground cover that quickly gets way out of control. Going to replant with silver carpet that is gopher resistant. Or so it says on the tag.
No caps saved a few bucks and it matches the rest of the property.

matching is priority!

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Not sure what’s “weird “ about it. Rarely can you compare Havasu to CA building standards. Havasu is full of almost right contractors. Havasu guys tends to build what looks good on what you can see. Yes there are exceptions of guys that do great work done correct. But rare for Havasu.

Also comparing a 3-1/2ft retaining to a 5ft wall is apples to oranges. Most cities don’t even require engineering or permits for 3ft retaining, they’re considered planter walls. And to fudge a 3ft to 3.5 is pretty simple. No drainage requirements, minimal footing, minimal excavation, no rock backfill, the list goes on.

5ft retaining wall just concrete alone costs are close to 30plf for footing and cells.
Plus excavation footing
Plus 3 horizontal #4 bars in footing, vertical #4 24in o.c.
12 block must be used for first 24in
Water proofing backside
Drains and rock backfill
Block cost itself
Plus labor
It all adds up quick

No way in hell is anyone in the CA licensed and building correct a 5ft retaining wall for 20 per ft in height x 5 = 100 plf . Including all above

Cutting hillside/over excavate and backfilling is separate for retaining walls

I ment it's weird that they don't do the walls first... get the retaining walls in and level the lot...On my house/… I think it has 16x16 blocks up the first 6 or 8'... the wall is 12' engineered masave footing.. I shit a 16x16 brick when I seen the costs..Iwanted to do a 3' and back 3' but they wouldn't let me in the pue so I lost 10' and paid out the ass for the wall

 

[Melloyellovector]

I ment it's weird that they don't do the walls first... get the retaining walls in and level the lot...On my house/… I think it has 16x16 blocks up the first 6 or 8'... the wall is 12' engineered masave footing.. I shit a 16x16 brick when I seen the costs..Iwanted to do a 3' and back 3' but they wouldn't let me in the pue so I lost 10' and paid out the ass for the wall

That’s because it’s wayyyy less money to just throw a slope in and let future owners figure out how they’re gonna cover massive costs to make their lot useful. Lol

 

[F.U.IRS]

Call Kevin Collier 1 (909) 228-8810 he does all my block. You’ll be close to $100 a lnft for footings and gray block. Tell him Ron Bierma From RBC gave you the number.

I would second this recommendation. Good guy


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[2FORCEFULL]

That’s because it’s wayyyy less money to just throw a slope in and let future owners figure out how they’re gonna cover massive costs to make their lot useful. Lol

I've seen lots in havasu that if you got them for free, you couldn't afford to do the dirt work and walls...

 

[WYRD]

yes I am But I no longer have a masonry crew. If your doing all the excavation yourself then you know how much footing conc. you need etc. You should be able to calc. all your material req. at least very close yourself, it's not rocket science just arithmetic, but it is a little time consuming. A decent mason with tender should be able to stack 125 blocks a day straight, clean and tooled joints etc. depending on your wall finish you can call Orco and inquire about 2 nds. and have a little cost per block. Call your local concrete mix co and negotiate a better price on your total volumn of conc. required for the job. The more you know about your specific job costs the better deal you can work with a contractor and better understand where he's at price wise.

Definitely not trying to nickle and dime the job. Just asking the brain trust for average budget numbers so I have a better understanding of costs involved.

Sounds like 100/lf is a decent average budget excluding excavation removal and haul.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Id personally recommend @Melloyellovector for any block work. He and his peeps did an awesome job for me at 5D Ranch.

150' or so of 6' and 4' retaining wall and grading.

Later they added course to the existing property line walls to get over the line of sight.

I couldn't have been happier with the work performed or timelines.

Brian

 

[WYRD]

Not sure what’s “weird “ about it. Rarely can you compare Havasu to CA building standards. Havasu is full of almost right contractors. Havasu guys tends to build what looks good on what you can see. Yes there are exceptions of guys that do great work done correct. But rare for Havasu.

Also comparing a 3-1/2ft retaining to a 5ft wall is apples to oranges. Most cities don’t even require engineering or permits for 3ft retaining, they’re considered planter walls. And to fudge a 3ft to 3.5 is pretty simple. No drainage requirements, minimal footing, minimal excavation, no rock backfill, the list goes on.

5ft retaining wall just concrete alone costs are close to 30plf for footing and cells.
Plus excavation footing
Plus 3 horizontal #4 bars in footing, vertical #4 24in o.c.
12 block must be used for first 24in
Water proofing backside
Drains and rock backfill
Block cost itself
Plus labor
It all adds up quick

No way in hell is anyone in the CA licensed and building correct a 5ft retaining wall for 20 per ft in height x 5 = 100 plf . Including all above

Cutting hillside/over excavate and backfilling is separate for retaining walls

Thanks for the detailed post. If 100/lf is low what would you budget? Everything you posted above is fairly accurate except I don't need 12-inch block my detail calls for 8 the entire height and a number 5 bar not 4

 

[wsuwrhr]

If you want to come by you can check out the job he did for yourself.

Rancho has pretty simple retaining wall engineering already done.

 

[GRADS]

Not to sidetrack the thread but I have a question.... Why is it that everyone in SoCal and Havasu put up block wall fences and not wood? I get that the block is probably nicer but much more expensive. Up where I live the only way someone has a block wall in their yard is if they back up to a major thoroughfare. Other than that it's all wood.

 

[FreeBird236]

You will not get 5ft retaining in ca for anywhere near 100plf. Your looking at min 150plf on 5ft w standard gray block, plus grading/cutting hillside if not existing or backfilling upper area to grade, plus water proofing, plus permit fees

My neighbor just paid $13,000 for 70' of 5' retaining wall. Has what looks like columns about every 12', was permitted, over excavated, drains about every 10', waterproofed, tons of rebar, and poured solid, also stuccoed to match the house, that's about $185.00 a LF. He says it was the cheapest of three estimates.

 

[Rbcconst]

Not to sidetrack the thread but I have a question.... Why is it that everyone in SoCal and Havasu put up block wall fences and not wood? I get that the block is probably nicer but much more expensive. Up where I live the only way someone has a block wall in their yard is if they back up to a major thoroughfare. Other than that it's all wood.

A wood fence would go to shit in a years time in havasu heat. A wood fence doesn't provide privacy like block and wood is a maintenance hassle.

 

[WYRD]

If you want to come by you can check out the job he did for yourself.

Rancho has pretty simple retaining wall engineering already done.

Thanks I already have my engineering done and permit in hand

 

[wsuwrhr]

Thanks I already have my engineering done and permit in hand

Rancho provides engineering.....just sayin.

 

[TCHB]

1. Electrical needs to go undergournd.
2. Curbs Curbs Curbs
3. No more chip and seal!! Go back to black pavement.

 

[Sharpy]

Not to sidetrack the thread but I have a question.... Why is it that everyone in SoCal and Havasu put up block wall fences and not wood? I get that the block is probably nicer but much more expensive. Up where I live the only way someone has a block wall in their yard is if they back up to a major thoroughfare. Other than that it's all wood.

In SoCal, Santa Ana Winds will drop Good Neighbor fencing like it's going out of style, many times making Good Neighbor's... Enemies!

 

[Melloyellovector]

Not to sidetrack the thread but I have a question.... Why is it that everyone in SoCal and Havasu put up block wall fences and not wood? I get that the block is probably nicer but much more expensive. Up where I live the only way someone has a block wall in their yard is if they back up to a major thoroughfare. Other than that it's all wood.

NorCal is/was the tree Mecca of California. Redwood material costs up there long ago were stupid cheap. So it makes sense to use what’s readily avail. And easy on the wallet.

In the world of privacy fencing, chain link, wood, vinyl, iron, block - pretty much in that order in cost and functionality.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Thanks I already have my engineering done and permit in hand

Post a pic of engineering and pic of property with line drawn where your thinking.
I can prob give costs from that for most part.
I don’t think Iv seen a detail for 5ft retaining using all 8in block entire height. For cast in place or Shotcrete walls 8in total ok

Who engineered?

Wait you got engineering and permit before you even know what build cost is, or time frame someone can do. That may or may not work in your favor. Having permit means you can hire brown pride labor and cross your fingers as owner builder. Or wait for contractor and hope permit doesn’t expire before one can actually start the work.

 

[WYRD]

Post a pic of engineering and pic of property with line drawn where your thinking.

 

[WYRD]

 

[WYRD]

 

[Havasu blue label]

Standard footing you should have a owner builder permit if it’s in Havasu you could get it done at a good price if it’s in la my block guys would take care it

 

[Hunkydory_Hallett]

Not to "hi-jack" the thread but I need a 6' tall x approximately 40' long retaining wall built in Parker if anyone has recommendations for a contractor. Thank you in advance!

 

[Havasu blue label]

Stair case it’s 3ft it’s it’s a big savings