This week at the Dunes;

[TPC]

Wife and I came across and helped the guy (center-kneeling) who just rolled his friends 900. First time on the dunes and he had his 30 month old daughter with him. Some young moms passing by in 4 seaters scooped up the little girl while we righted the vehicle.
All OK and we rolled the 900 back over undamaged.
Lesson: Ya just don't hand your SxS keys to someone who's never driven the dunes.

New RV was flawless. When we returned from the dunes this morning we hit the closing day LA Car Show.
Never heard of this happening: One of the demonstration model girls in the GMC/Chevy area was chatting with the wife for 20 minutes then flipped Alice $2000 in "after-negotiating-your-best-price-discounts" chits on a new dually. Now that ain't too bad:



Sandcat:



The dunes were wet and everyone ran a few pounds more pressure in the tires to compensate for the first few days. Pretty rutted for the kids to ride their quads, so the kids and moms sometimes rode shotgun in the rzr's and buggies.
Excellent weather, we heard of no fatals or any one even getting hurt,, yet.

We heard (2nd hand) from down South at Gordons Well that the Rangers reported 3 SxS's burned to the ground. Two had gas containers bung'd in the storage that leaked down on the engine and ignited, one other had a leaky turbo oil line that ignited. All 3 total losses.

Not unusual to see quad and MC people with milk containers filled with gasoline and the top duct taped on. Their friends carry the containers in their SxS's on long runs like to Gordons or Buttercup or North Glamis.
What could possibly go wrong doing that?

 

[Rvrluvr]

thats a sharp looking fifth wheel:thumbup:

 

[Hallett270act]

Nice looking rig. Congratulations!

 

[JRS1939]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-YgHOglumc

 

[Angler]

I seen one SxS on a trailer coming out of wash road completely burned to the frame.
Sucks for sure. Tonight is beautiful in the flats, no mayham, no noise. Love it!:thumbup:

 

[TPC]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-YgHOglumc

They hit Dumont once a year and we try to make it out to see them.
The trophy trucks are the baddest of them all.

 

[Hallett270act]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-YgHOglumc

Bad ass video!

 

[Flyinbowtie]

Glad it is working for you and your family Ross...you sure as heck have it coming after the nightmare with the last one.

 

[RVRKID]

A fellow duner Geoff rolled his car Mon night around Pad 2 and it caught on fire, he ended up passing away Wed night. Also read that a RZR 4 burnt at Olds.

 

[throttle]

TPC, looks like a nice set up!

Thanks for shedding some light on some of the incidents over the weekend, carrying extra gas would not recommended, as not tossing keys to unexperienced driver. Seems like some have been pointing fingers at belts burning up, and there were some burns sustained to a young teenage boy.

 

[throttle]

A fellow duner Geoff rolled his car Mon night around Pad 2 and it caught on fire, he ended up passing away Wed night. Also read that a RZR 4 burnt at Olds.

This is not good news, I might know some peeps that would be at or near pad 2 (gecko?).

 

[DeltaSigBoater]

New RV was flawless. When we returned from the dunes this morning we hit the closing day LA Car Show.
Never heard of this happening: One of the demonstration model girls in the GMC/Chevy area was chatting with the wife for 20 minutes then flipped Alice $2000 in "after-negotiating-your-best-price-discounts" chits on a new dually. Now that ain't too bad:

Went to the auto show last night, cannot understand why you could crawl all over and fondle $100k+ luxury vehicles, but GM had their 3/4 & 1 Ton trucks partitioned off. Asked the guy at the GMC exhibit if I could show the Sierra HD, as I'm looking to upgrade. The guy told me to go see a dealer. WTF?

Sorry to threadjack... The new rig looks aweome, congratulations TCP!

 

[rivrrts429]

This is not good news, I might know some peeps that would be at or near pad 2 (gecko?).

I believe the accident happened on 11/25. Geoff Naylor passed away, passenger hurt but will be ok.

 

[LowRiver2]

TPC, looks like a nice set up!

Thanks for shedding some light on some of the incidents over the weekend, carrying extra gas would not recommended, as not tossing keys to unexperienced driver. Seems like some have been pointing fingers at belts burning up, and there were some burns sustained to a young teenage boy.

appears no fires from belts, but over 18 separate broken belts, all 1K four seaters at Glamis. Sounds like Polaris is going to address it too from some of the posts.:thumbsup

 

[TPC]

Rangers reported and a few witnesses remarked the fires were from people carrying leaky fuel containers in the storage area of the SxS's.

I have heard the belt problem may be several reasons one being the clutch pulley is jazzed causing the belt to wear and grenade prematurely,, and another group said run the belt in a few miles before getting on the throttle letting it seat better. Damfino.

 

[TPC]

Glad it is working for you and your family Ross...you sure as heck have it coming after the nightmare with the last one.

Thanks Jeff. :thumbsup
With the settlement check and the dealer giving us almost half off MSRP we're able to re-set the whole headache and finally come out ok.
The auto leveling in fantastic.
I'll have to video it.
It's real dramatic.
The whole unit almost gets up and walks away.

 

[underpressure]

Lots of carnage out there last week! As reported a guy was killed in a rollover and fire Monday night. Another (spectator) was killed when an out of control rail hit the crowd at Olds on Sat. Another rail collision at Patton on Sat too. At least 3 RZR fires (one was apparently a 13-14 y/o that was severely burned). I know personally of 2 new (a few hours) RZR 1Ks that threw belts and damaged the clutch seal making them inoperable (split the cases to fix). We blew another belt in my Commander (3rd in 8 trips). DUI checkpoint at Osborne Sat afternoon. They were asking for license and registration. One guy in my group didn't have either (green sticker on quad was current), so they impounded his Banshee. Supposed to be able to bring the info and get it back today..

Horrible news on the deaths and injuries...

 

[Yldboyz]

Nice rig!

 

[Meaney77]

Wife and I came across and helped the guy (center-kneeling) who just rolled his friends 900. First time on the dunes and he had his 30 month old daughter with him. Some young moms passing by in 4 seaters scooped up the little girl while we righted the vehicle.
All OK and we rolled the 900 back over undamaged.
Lesson: Ya just don't hand your SxS keys to someone who's never driven the dunes.

New RV was flawless. When we returned from the dunes this morning we hit the closing day LA Car Show.
Never heard of this happening: One of the demonstration model girls in the GMC/Chevy area was chatting with the wife for 20 minutes then flipped Alice $2000 in "after-negotiating-your-best-price-discounts" chits on a new dually. Now that ain't too bad:



Sandcat:



The dunes were wet and everyone ran a few pounds more pressure in the tires to compensate for the first few days. Pretty rutted for the kids to ride their quads, so the kids and moms sometimes rode shotgun in the rzr's and buggies.
Excellent weather, we heard of no fatals or any one even getting hurt,, yet.

We heard (2nd hand) from down South at Gordons Well that the Rangers reported 3 SxS's burned to the ground. Two had gas containers bung'd in the storage that leaked down on the engine and ignited, one other had a leaky turbo oil line that ignited. All 3 total losses.

Not unusual to see quad and MC people with milk containers filled with gasoline and the top duct taped on. Their friends carry the containers in their SxS's on long runs like to Gordons or Buttercup or North Glamis.
What could possibly go wrong doing that?

Nice looking rig Ross, how big is the garage?

 

[River Lynchmob]

Great looking rig...congrats!

 

[TPC]

Went to the auto show last night, cannot understand why you could crawl all over and fondle $100k+ luxury vehicles, but GM had their 3/4 & 1 Ton trucks partitioned off. Asked the guy at the GMC exhibit if I could show the Sierra HD, as I'm looking to upgrade. The guy told me to go see a dealer. WTF?

Sorry to threadjack... The new rig looks aweome, congratulations TCP!

We were disappointed that at all the other cars shows across the USA visitors were allowed to sit in and check out the GM HD's closely. The LA car show they were partitioned off.
We guess their will be changes made that aren't on the current car show demos.
The 2 layer seats they brag as more comfortable were hard and very un-comfortable in the 2014 1500's we sat in. It's said to be the same seats as the coming 2015 HD's. The selector knobs for 4WD and trailer control are tiny with tiny printing. That sucked.

The Ford F450 we could climb all over and offers a newer, more power 6.7 for 2015 and much needed improved leather. Evidently a new design soon too.. The F450 really bites you on the ass and hangs on. Talk about showroom appeal.
Guys we talk to that gave up FORDs in the powerjoke grenading fiasco claim they are going back to the F450 next time around in spite. They still liked them that much.

When the wife gets in any GM vehicle she feels like she's visiting a good friend,, the Fords she doesn't get that. But the F450 is soooo cool and ready to roll.
So,, test drives will make the final decision. But, Ali will have $2000.00 in GM discount coupons in her purse and ya know how that rolls.

 

[2Driver]

Just dropped off my RZR for service. I asked how the 1,000s were doing. The service guy said, eh not that great. They had 2 that just came in with electrical shorts requiring all new wiring harnesses.

 

[TPC]

Just dropped off my RZR for service. I asked how the 1,000s were doing. The service guy said, eh not that great. They had 2 that just came in with electrical shorts requiring all new wiring harnesses.

Carry a tow strap.

 

[Canuck 1]

Nice lookin rig Ross

 

[OCMerrill]

Lots of carnage out there last week! As reported a guy was killed in a rollover and fire Monday night. Another (spectator) was killed when an out of control rail hit the crowd at Olds on Sat. Another rail collision at Patton on Sat too. At least 3 RZR fires (one was apparently a 13-14 y/o that was severely burned). I know personally of 2 new (a few hours) RZR 1Ks that threw belts and damaged the clutch seal making them inoperable (split the cases to fix). We blew another belt in my Commander (3rd in 8 trips). DUI checkpoint at Osborne Sat afternoon. They were asking for license and registration. One guy in my group didn't have either (green sticker on quad was current), so they impounded his Banshee. Supposed to be able to bring the info and get it back today..

Horrible news on the deaths and injuries...

So your required to have your drivers license with you at all times? Since when is it a law requiring one to have a Drivers License to operate an OHV?

Carrying the registration? I have never done that once. Fucking Glamis and cop bullshit. What a turn off.

 

[Vmjtc3]

So your required to have your drivers license with you at all times? Since when is it a law requiring one to have a Drivers License to operate an OHV?

Carrying the registration? I have never done that once. Fucking Glamis and cop bullshit. What a turn off.

According to this CA website, you do not need have a license to operate one, but it does say if you have a suspended license you can not operate any vehicle including off road lol http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=26294,

 

[OCMerrill]

According to this CA website, you do not need have a license to operate one, but it does say if you have a suspended license you can not operate any vehicle including off road lol http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=26294,

LOL is right.
Add that to the list of the dumbest things I've ever read. CA is a total gem of governing brainiacs. D

 

[2Driver]

Carry a tow strap.

Yeah that and the extended warranty are worth it.

I guess the one guy with the electrical failure was pretty far out in the desert on his first ride when the unit declared; I was engineered in Wisconsin and made in Mexico.

 

[LowRiver2]

So your required to have your drivers license with you at all times? Since when is it a law requiring one to have a Drivers License to operate an OHV?

Carrying the registration? I have never done that once. Fucking Glamis and cop bullshit. What a turn off.

Glamis is a double edged sword: too many accidents, then too much enforcement,

I hate the fact I dig driving sand over hard pack, Glamis is great on non holiday weekends, but so many accidents have brought the typical over enforcement in a reactionary world that is law enforcement (wonder how I know?)

Approx. 130,000+ jammed into that area over Tday week ended up with 2 fatalities and at least 6 criticals, 80 major/minor casualties requiring medical response. That beats any other off roading area in the country for time frame/size of use area.
Close friends of mine had a very negative run in with BLM in 08', it would have never been proven had I not been close by and went to the Imperial Co. Sgt. in charge that night.

I recommend Dumont for any holiday weekend duning as an alternative.

Only pro of them checking registration is recovery of stolen toys, which they do find (approx. 20 back in 06'), last time I inquired.

TPC is like the Dos XX commercial guy: He doesn't always dune, but when he does, it's Dumont"

 

[Deleted Account]

Lol, didn't see that shown in the cool video...

 

[Vmjtc3]

Glamis is a double edged sword: too many accidents, then too much enforcement,

I hate the fact I dig driving sand over hard pack, Glamis is great on non holiday weekends, but so many accidents have brought the typical over enforcement in a reactionary world that is law enforcement (wonder how I know?)

Approx. 130,000+ jammed into that area over Tday week ended up with 2 fatalities and at least 6 criticals, 80 major/minor casualties requiring medical response. That beats any other off roading area in the country for time frame/size of use area.
Close friends of mine had a very negative run in with BLM in 08', it would have never been proven had I not been close by and went to the Imperial Co. Sgt. in charge that night.

I recommend Dumont for any holiday weekend duning as an alternative.

Only pro of them checking registration is recovery of stolen toys, which they do find (approx. 20 back in 06'), last time I inquired.

TPC is like the Dos XX commercial guy: He doesn't always dune, but when he does, it's Dumont"

Turns out the pedestrian that was hit by the rail at Oldsmobile hill, Rich Hollien, was my SIL's neighbor and good friend. :thumbsdown

 

[LowRiver2]

Turns out the pedestrian that was hit by the rail at Oldsmobile hill, Rich Hollien, was my SIL's neighbor and good friend. :thumbsdown

Sorry to hear,

I've been following that thread, I'm curious to hear what CHP finds as to if the throttle was stuck or not. Sounds like Hollien saved his son and wife by getting them out of the impact zone before he was killed, a hero in my book.
I think back at how that incident could of happened many times over the years, thinking it will change when people can run the hill there, or move onlookers farther back. Time will tell.

 

[Vmjtc3]

Sorry to hear,

I've been following that thread, I'm curious to hear what CHP finds as to if the throttle was stuck or not. Sounds like Hollien saved his son and wife by getting them out of the impact zone before he was killed, a hero in my book.
I think back at how that incident could of happened many times over the years, thinking it will change when people can run the hill there, or move onlookers farther back. Time will tell.

What thread? I have only met Rich and his wife a few times at my SIL's, good people. His son pretty much said the same thing about how it happened on facebook. Sad deal for sure!

 

[77charger]

Sorry to hear,

I've been following that thread, I'm curious to hear what CHP finds as to if the throttle was stuck or not. Sounds like Hollien saved his son and wife by getting them out of the impact zone before he was killed, a hero in my book.
I think back at how that incident could of happened many times over the years, thinking it will change when people can run the hill there, or move onlookers farther back. Time will tell.

I dont think will change much crowds wanna get closer and drivers wanna show their power.Now you have alot parking on top of hill facing looking down narrowing where traffic can pass.Heck driving into olds from the dunes can get scary enough with some coming over pretty fast.I have just learned pass thur early then leave early to grab a bite to eat

 

[LowRiver2]

I dont think will change much crowds wanna get closer and drivers wanna show their power.Now you have alot parking on top of hill facing looking down narrowing where traffic can pass.Heck driving into olds from the dunes can get scary enough with some coming over pretty fast.I have just learned pass thur early then leave early to grab a bite to eat

I dunno Robert, Comp hill used to be "mecca" for showing off at one time too. Enough litigation, complaints, and you'll have LEO's creating a line of where duners can park below, top, and how many vehicles can go up or down at one time.

I"m actually amazed the drags have not been shut down. That is a matter of time before a multiple K accident like Mojave happens.
The quiet trails of Earp, along with being 50 yards from my river pad garage, make Glamis less and less of a place I feel like packing up and going to each year/lol. (that might be attributed to getting older too)

 

[LowRiver2]

What thread? I have only met Rich and his wife a few times at my SIL's, good people. His son pretty much said the same thing about how it happened on facebook. Sad deal for sure!

The son's facebook post got posted at Glamisdunes. Typical Mon. Morning quarterback show over there, similar to Havasu boat crash stories here after Memorial Day each year.

 

[77charger]

I dunno Robert, Comp hill used to be "mecca" for showing off at one time too. Enough litigation, complaints, and you'll have LEO's creating a line of where duners can park below, top, and how many vehicles can go up or down at one time.

I"m actually amazed the drags have not been shut down. That is a matter of time before a multiple K accident like Mojave happens.
The quiet trails of Earp, along with being 50 yards from my river pad garage, make Glamis less and less of a place I feel like packing up and going to each year/lol. (that might be attributed to getting older too)

I am pretty much over the "hill or drags thing"rarely will shoot pics there now since not much interest from others with photos anyways.I also hate being around all the popo in these areas,and of course know that anything can go wrong.My kids are older now and rather go for a ride in the dunes.

So like i said now its a brief stop at olds then off to somewhere else.For the later times when the drags are going we take off for a run then head to a peak near osborne where a few gather up at sundown and have a beer or two then head back to camp for dinner.While on the peak we can se the sand highway traffic picking up and very heavy we will usually be up there for an hour hanging out.

Some of our group like to sit longer at olds and hit the drags after.

 

[Vmjtc3]

The son's facebook post got posted at Glamisdunes. Typical Mon. Morning quarterback show over there, similar to Havasu boat crash stories here after Memorial Day each year.

Thanks, I kind of figured you were talking about that site, I went in signed in and found the thread, the video made me sick to my stomach to watch

 

[RiverDave]

Lots of carnage out there last week! As reported a guy was killed in a rollover and fire Monday night. Another (spectator) was killed when an out of control rail hit the crowd at Olds on Sat. Another rail collision at Patton on Sat too. At least 3 RZR fires (one was apparently a 13-14 y/o that was severely burned). I know personally of 2 new (a few hours) RZR 1Ks that threw belts and damaged the clutch seal making them inoperable (split the cases to fix). We blew another belt in my Commander (3rd in 8 trips). DUI checkpoint at Osborne Sat afternoon. They were asking for license and registration. One guy in my group didn't have either (green sticker on quad was current), so they impounded his Banshee. Supposed to be able to bring the info and get it back today..

Horrible news on the deaths and injuries...

How is that legal?

 

[rivrrts429]

Video of the accident and comment posted by Richard Hollien's son... Very sad deal but it looks like he pulled his son to safety at the last minute. The thread over on GD has derailed a bit.



I'm doing my best to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves. As of December 2nd, 2013, my father has passed on November 30th at roughly 3PM due to alleged cardiac arrest and organ failure; We are waiting for the full autopsy report as this is now a vehicular manslaughter investigation.

My mother and brother's lives were saved as a result of my Fathers actions. He died a great man and a hero in my eyes.

I would appreciate ANY and ALL photographs and videos, as well as contact information to be emailed to me at:

RichieHollien@gmail.com

As for the driver of said car, his name is Cesar Lopez Maceda, currently holding an alleged DUI charge as of September 15th, 2013. He may or may not have even had the right to be driving his Sand Rail this past weekend.

EDIT: Cesar was not tested for his Blood Alcohol Content on the scene of my fathers death, so in respect to that accusation, I have no response to his sobriety.

http://openaccess.sb-court.org CASE NO. TWV1302194


I would appreciate the knowledge of this matter as it is dear to me.


As far as the news, this is all I have to report:


http://www.kesq.com/kesq/off-road-acc...

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/d...

I appreciate any and all help I can get.

Best Regards,

Richard-Alan Hollien III

 

[Yldboyz]

Video of the accident and comment posted by Richard Hollien's son... Very sad deal but it looks like he pulled his son to safety at the last minute. The thread over on GD has derailed a bit.



I'm doing my best to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves. As of December 2nd, 2013, my father has passed on November 30th at roughly 3PM due to alleged cardiac arrest and organ failure; We are waiting for the full autopsy report as this is now a vehicular manslaughter investigation.

My mother and brother's lives were saved as a result of my Fathers actions. He died a great man and a hero in my eyes.

I would appreciate ANY and ALL photographs and videos, as well as contact information to be emailed to me at:

RichieHollien@gmail.com

As for the driver of said car, his name is Cesar Lopez Maceda, currently holding an alleged DUI charge as of September 15th, 2013. He may or may not have even had the right to be driving his Sand Rail this past weekend.

EDIT: Cesar was not tested for his Blood Alcohol Content on the scene of my fathers death, so in respect to that accusation, I have no response to his sobriety.

http://openaccess.sb-court.org CASE NO. TWV1302194


I would appreciate the knowledge of this matter as it is dear to me.


As far as the news, this is all I have to report:


http://www.kesq.com/kesq/off-road-acc...

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/d...

I appreciate any and all help I can get.

Best Regards,

Richard-Alan Hollien III

:eek

 

[thmterry]

10 pages of different opinions

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=297896

 

[rivrrts429]

Well, they stole my buddy's Expedition this morning at 0400 off pad 2.5. They got it stuck in the sand so then they spray painted the interior? Nice. Also stole the rims off another friends bike at the same time. Very nice.

Damn! We're they sleeping? Looks like the thieves took their time.

That's brutal to wake up and your tow vehicle is gone. You're truly fucked at that point.

 

[Hammer]

Why wouldn't the rangers do a sobriety check on the driver at the scene of the accident ?

 

[rivrrts429]

Why wouldn't the rangers do a sobriety check on the driver at the scene of the accident ?

Doesn't make sense to me either. That's the first thing they always ask you and look for.

Not sure if we have the whole story. That Glamis thread is fucked up.

 

[Hammer]

Well, they stole my buddy's Expedition this morning at 0400 off pad 2.5. They got it stuck in the sand so then they spray painted the interior? Nice. Also stole the rims off another friends bike at the same time. Very nice.

What kind of bullshit is going on in Glamis ?! I didn't go once last season and thinking about skipping this season ! :thumbdown:

 

[GET SOME]

Lots of raider fans from the looks of things..

 

[hallett21]

Well, they stole my buddy's Expedition this morning at 0400 off pad 2.5. They got it stuck in the sand so then they spray painted the interior? Nice. Also stole the rims off another friends bike at the same time. Very nice.

That almost just sounds like someone wanted to screw with your stuff. Stealing rims just to probably laugh at the poor guy who has to load the bike. I mean if theft is the goal why not take the whole bike and gut it later. Same with the truck, who brings spray paint to a car jacking? Either way doesn't really matter that's a bummer either way.

Do most of you who go to glamis use steering wheel locks or chain the bikes creatively? In these kinds of settings the more noise you cause the vandal to make the better chance you wake up and grab the caliber of your choice

 

[Hammer]

Doesn't make sense to me either. That's the first thing they always ask you and look for.

Not sure if we have the whole story. That Glamis thread is fucked up.

That was a looong read ! Fucked up deal all the way around.

 

[Meaney77]

We stopped going to Glamis years ago on busy holiday weekends and after reading all of this I can see it still hasn't changed. I will stick with my occasional off weekend trip.

Coming home from Palm Springs on Sunday there was a ton of Raider haters with all of their clapped out shit on the 10. They took the dunes over years ago, I can only imagine what it's like now.