Tie Down Failure

[Abc123]

Happened on the way to Glamis last week. I was about 15 miles to Brawley and saw sparks flying out the back of the trailer from my side view mirror. Bike rolled forward and flipped over. I figure I drug it for about 200 yards. Handlebars, brake reservoir and done. Plastic got a lil scuff, broken foot peg, Scratched wheel and hole in the side of clutch cover. Needless to say it didnt get rode all weekend. Im just glad it didn't let go and go through someone's windshield.

...Oh and it broke the tail light on my buddy's Rhino.

 

[RiverDave]

I'd ditch that whole set of them if I was you and get some that are heavier duty..

RD

 

[Abc123]

I'd ditch that whole set of them if I was you and get some that are heavier duty..

RD

I already figured that. Who's got the best deal on about 10 of them? Harbor Freight?

 

[Yellowboat]

no harbor frieght crap... I've had good luck going to constuction supply houses like hub, white cap, blue coller supply and getting them. Sun and friction is what eats them up.

 

[RiverDave]

I already figured that. Who's got the best deal on about 10 of them? Harbor Freight?

If you buy things like tiedowns at Harbor Freight.. Expect to post more threads that start exactly like this one.. LOL

RD

 

[Abc123]

If you buy things like tiedowns at Harbor Freight.. Expect to post more threads that start exactly like this one.. LOL

RD

:smackhead

 

[Wicky]

I already figured that. Who's got the best deal on about 10 of them? Harbor Freight?

ANCRA....because you get what you pay for

 

[RitcheyRch]

My thoughts exactly

If you buy things like tiedowns at Harbor Freight.. Expect to post more threads that start exactly like this one.. LOL

RD

Yes, and I believe they are built in the good old USA.

ANCRA....because you get what you pay for

 

[raff]

This is were I get all my straps for work
http://www.s-line.com/

 

[rrrr]

Looks like a granny knot failuire to me...tying two straps together isn't the brightest idea.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

If you buy things like tiedowns at Harbor Freight.. Expect to post more threads that start exactly like this one.. LOL

RD

X2!!

 

[Tom Brown]

I picked up a bunch of load binders from Princess Auto (Canadian version of Harbor Freight) to tie an excavator to a flat bed. I went to Princess because they were cheap. They work OK and I trust their strength.

... but after using them for a couple of years, I ended up spending the money for decent load binders from a heavy truck supplier. After seeing how nicely they work with increased throw making it easier to position the machine, lever locks, etc. I believe they are the same deal... I just bought less product from Princess Auto.

I know you asked about ratchet straps but it's the same deal. Those cheapos don't work nearly as nicely as a decent quality strap and they are weaker.

The cheap Chinese nylon straps are getting pretty crappy these days. The tow straps rated for 40K pounds will easily snap when pulling a car out of a snowbank. I've snapped one and I've heard of countless others. I would imagine the real load capacity is 3~5K pounds.

The lesson learned in all of this is that I'm a sucker for cheap prices.

 

[Abc123]

Looks like a granny knot failuire to me...tying two straps together isn't the brightest idea.

Wrong.
Excess strap from the Rhino was wrapped around the Banshee's tie down (so it wouldn't drag down the highway). That somehow tangled up and thank God because it was the only thing holding my bike from letting go.

 

[Abc123]

I picked up a bunch of load binders from Princess Auto (Canadian version of Harbor Freight) to tie an excavator to a flat bed. I went to Princess because they were cheap. They work OK and I trust their strength.

... but after using them for a couple of years, I ended up spending the money for decent load binders from a heavy truck supplier. After seeing how nicely they work with increased throw making it easier to position the machine, lever locks, etc. I believe they are the same deal... I just bought less product from Princess Auto.

I know you asked about ratchet straps but it's the same deal. Those cheapos don't work nearly as nicely as a decent quality strap and they are weaker.

The cheap Chinese nylon straps are getting pretty crappy these days. The tow straps rated for 40K pounds will easily snap when pulling a car out of a snowbank. I've snapped one and I've heard of countless others. I would imagine the real load capacity is 3~5K pounds.

The lesson learned in all of this is that I'm a sucker for cheap prices.

I have a couple for the transom of my boat I bought at Pep Boys. They are really thick and where about $25 a piece if I remember right. I think they are rated to 10k lbs. I was thinking about checking Grainger.

 

[Abc123]

This is were I get all my straps for work
http://www.s-line.com/

Thanks!

 

[whiteworks]

If you buy things like tiedowns at Harbor Freight.. Expect to post more threads that start exactly like this one.. LOL

RD

Says the guy with the complete Ryobi tool kit, hey it came with a flash light:thumbsup

 

[Mr. C]

:champagne:
Shouldn't this be called EPIC(ok not epic) tie down failure?
followed by a bunch of
stupid is as stupid does.
can't fix stupid.
I sure hope you don't have kids.
I mean if you can't even tie a bike down how good are you gonna be at riding it.
etc. etc. ect. type comments.
or is that only if it fell off a 2nd time?

seriously, glad it didn't break completely loose, that could of been deadly.

 

[460]

Says the guy with the complete Ryobi tool kit, hey it came with a flash light:thumbsup

Ryobi?

Even the brothas won't use that stuff.


Sent from my iPhone that was bought with money president Obama gave me.

 

[rivermobster]

I've had Ancra's come loose on me more than once. I threw em all in the trash. I only use ratchet straps now.

Wal-Mart used to carry some Good american made ones. Not sure if they do anymore.

You get what you pay for with straps. Sorry to hear bout your mess!

 

[RiverDave]

Says the guy with the complete Ryobi tool kit, hey it came with a flash light:thumbsup

Lol.. For what I use t for it's always done alright for me..

 

[Abc123]

:champagne:
Shouldn't this be called EPIC(ok not epic) tie down failure?
followed by a bunch of
stupid is as stupid does.
can't fix stupid.
I sure hope you don't have kids.
I mean if you can't even tie a bike down how good are you gonna be at riding it.
etc. etc. ect. type comments.
or is that only if it fell off a 2nd time?

seriously, glad it didn't break completely loose, that could of been deadly.

Remember Carmen is a bitch. Keep talking shit and Im sure your boat or whatever toys you have will fall off the trailer and you'll wonder why. LOL.. Honestly its probably because I was drunk when I strapped them down, I was trying to get a real buzz going for the drive.

Yes Im thankfull I didn't kill someone. It could have been bad.

 

[Abc123]

Says the guy with the complete Ryobi tool kit, hey it came with a flash light:thumbsup

My Dewalt kit came with a flash light

 

[whiteworks]

Ryobi?

Even the brothas won't use that stuff.


Sent from my iPhone that was bought with money president Obama gave me.

Thats pretty bad

Lol.. For what I use t for it's always done alright for me..

You dont use that shit, well other than the flash light For a guy that worries about looking the part so much, you dropped the ball on this one LOL

 

[scottietwohoty]

Got any pic's of it in the daylight?

 

[whiteworks]

My Dewalt kit came with a flash light

what do you want a prize or something

 

[Abc123]

Got any pic's of it in the daylight?

The damage? No I'll take some though. The bike is in better condition than I thought it would be.

 

[Abc123]

what do you want a prize or something

I'll take some big titties in my face!:thumbsup

 

[Mr. C]

Remember Carmen is a bitch.

Who is this Carmen you speak of? I don't know her.
If it's Karma's sister then ya I'm fucked cause Karma really is a bitch.

 

[Abc123]

Who is this Carmen you speak of? I don't know her.
If it's Karma's sister then ya I'm fucked cause Karma really is a bitch.

Haha.

 

[pronstar]

I needed some straps last-minute, and got a good deal on some 1,000-lb rated ones from WalMart (I know...I know...).

The bulk of my straps are these:
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...-Loop-Tie-Downs-W-Carabiner/RATCHET+TIE+DOWNS

IMHO make sure to get the soft-loop style, so you aren't scratching-up your toys with a metal - or rubber-coated metal - hook :thumbsup

 

[oldschool]

I bought a set(six of them) of ratcheting tie downs at Costco a year or so ago that are pretty nice. Also, I use carbine snap hooks to attach them to the tie down hooks in the bed.

 

[Riverbound]

I already figured that. Who's got the best deal on about 10 of them? Harbor Freight?

If you buy things like tiedowns at Harbor Freight.. Expect to post more threads that start exactly like this one.. LOL

RD

I didnt go through the whole thread...but Im guessing this point has been brought up once or twice already

Just go to RDs garage....he has probably a couple hundred tie downs there. most are still brand new in the package.

 

[linus3]

HD Ratchet or nothing. Those spring loaded grip-type suck. :thumbsdown

 

[Abc123]

I didnt go through the whole thread...but Im guessing this point has been brought up once or twice already

Just go to RDs garage....he has probably a couple hundred tie downs there. most are still brand new in the package.

Cool! I hear he has a fridge full of Coors lights I can load my ice chest with and gas I can siphon out of his Schiada. I'll be sure to stop by on my 1st Havasu trip. :thumbsup

 

[KENDOG689]

I always had my stuff in the front with a S-load of tie downs.

 

[j540]

Grainger has 700lb working load 1" straps, And there like 10' long. I have 20 of them I have been useing them on the rhino for 5yr and not one prob, If you look on the side of the FWY you will always see thouse POS Cost-co one's all the time.

Just went out and looked at them they are 15' long. heres a pic,

 

[dschifan]

dam bro that is a bummer! next time make sure the bike is in gear and that will help it from rolling back. you don't need some expensive ass tie downs for a quad or sxs. The heavy duty harbor freight ones are more than enough to hold sand toys in place, after all they are made in good old china where everything else is made LOL. i have a gate on my trailer as well so worse case it can't roll off the back

 

[Abc123]

dam bro that is a bummer! next time make sure the bike is in gear and that will help it from rolling back. you don't need some expensive ass tie downs for a quad or sxs. The heavy duty harbor freight ones are more than enough to hold sand toys in place, after all they are made in good old china where everything else is made LOL. i have a gate on my trailer as well so worse case it can't roll off the back

Yea it wasn't in gear. That's what happens when Im in a rush! Can't wait to get an enclosed. Hows that new RZR??

 

[Abc123]

Grainger has 700lb working load 1" straps, And there like 10' long. I have 20 of them I have been useing them on the rhino for 5yr and not one prob, If you look on the side of the FWY you will always see thouse POS Cost-co one's all the time.

Just went out and looked at them they are 15' long. heres a pic,

how much a piece?

 

[dschifan]

Yea it wasn't in gear. That's what happens when Im in a rush! Can't wait to get an enclosed. Hows that new RZR??

best waste of 18k i have spent to date LOL. just got it hooked up with a 4 speaker ipod stereo and ended up murdering it out all black, looks sick. Let me know when you got ride i think i'm heading up to barstow area this weekend. Hell let me know if you wanna roll with in the rzr, gonna be driving solo following a couple bikes and other sxs.