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I have the "small" box anchor and have had it since the flatty days. Well with the wind this past weekend it pulled twice. Had to go to the good old fluke and we were set the rest of the weekend. Yes I have 5 feet of chain plus the bar that comes on the box anchor and like 30 feet of rope out. the boat was in maybe 5feet of water anchored

I got on slide anchors website and they say the small box is good for boats up to 30 feet/ cabin cruisers up to 24 feet. The Fundeck is 27 feet.

Wondering if I should move up to the large box anchor or got back to the old fluke.

 
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I used a med sized box anchor with the 240, never pulled while camping at pirates when the wind picked up...
 

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I have never had luck with the box anchors. I think they suck, i watched my buoy float away with one in parker years ago. i use the old school danforth anchor with 8' of chain and about 100' of line. my usual spot we go to in parker, I have a milk crate full of concrete and chain with a small buoy on it so i can find it. it has been in the same spot for 8 years now and i use it every time we are there with a sand spike on the beach. when we do havasu and i want to anchor in a cove, i have 2 10 pound mushroom anchors tied together with 5' of chain and a 20' bungee rope that works well with no current.
 

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I have never had luck with the box anchors. I think they suck, i watched my buoy float away with one in parker years ago. i use the old school danforth anchor with 8' of chain and about 100' of line. my usual spot we go to in parker, I have a milk crate full of concrete and chain with a small buoy on it so i can find it. it has been in the same spot for 8 years now and i use it every time we are there with a sand spike on the beach. when we do havasu and i want to anchor in a cove, i have 2 10 pound mushroom anchors tied together with 5' of chain and a 20' bungee rope that works well with no current.

Really? I have always had good luck with box anchors..
 

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You can have the largest box anchor they make but if you aren't using the correct length of line its not going to hold. I have a the small box anchor with 100’ of line with a danik hook. Works great holding my 20’ stoker in 6mph current.
 

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I have a medium sized box anchor for the 26 Eagle, has never been a problem on Arrowhead when the wind blows and shifts.

I also used it at Mohave with a 30 Eagle and it was fine with mild wind, but I did stake off the stern to the beach as well to stop the rotating around the anchor.

I use it with the metal bar off the anchor, a length of rubber coated chain (6 feet or maybe longer) and then up to 100 feet of anchor line with a danik hook. I always try and give it plenty of line so it’s never right over the anchor.
 

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I have never had luck with the box anchors. I think they suck, i watched my buoy float away with one in parker years ago. i use the old school danforth anchor with 8' of chain and about 100' of line. my usual spot we go to in parker, I have a milk crate full of concrete and chain with a small buoy on it so i can find it. it has been in the same spot for 8 years now and i use it every time we are there with a sand spike on the beach. when we do havasu and i want to anchor in a cove, i have 2 10 pound mushroom anchors tied together with 5' of chain and a 20' bungee rope that works well with no current.
Yeah my box anchor wouldnt hold my 21 footer in the current with the rock/sand mix between Needles and bullhead. I think they work best for sand and mud conditions
 

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Really? I have always had good luck with box anchors..
yup, i know alot of people who have bought them and either gave them away or dont use them. tried adding chain, longer rope. no dice. I imagine in a no current situation they would work, but i have never had my danforth move in parker even with my 26' tri toon on it. for sure they are a little more involved to set and retrieve, but im in no hurry.
 

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I use a large box anchor, and it holds my 34' boat pretty well. The biggest challenge I have is that the boat pivots around the anchor when the wind shifts, and due to the amount of line I have out it can result in a lot of movement. It's not a problem in a wide open area, but locally at Lake Pleasant the boats end up anchoring close together and they don't all shift the same. I will probably start throwing out a stern anchor this season and see how it goes.
 

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Piggy backing anchors (2 anchors on the rode) can be helpful. But, what a PIA! Huge, floating oil field rigs do that with giant anchors, chain and cable. It does work, though.
 

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I have a 24 foot lavey and I use a large box anchor. If the current is strong, I’ll grab some rebar and drive inside the box
 

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My wife is my anchor....🤔












I use a drake, i haven't had issues. ive known people who used boxes and they didn't like them. Doesn't mean they dont work just means those people didn't like them.

P.S. my wife really is awesome and is a huge help in all aspects of my life.
 

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I use the small box for my waverunner. Have 2 large for the Cobra.
 
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60 lbs of nickel bronze-3ft 5/16 chain-large box anchor-15ft 5/16 chain to bouy...never moves at Parker
 

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I use the large box anchor. Although they say do not use a chain, Since I've added a chain it has worked 100% better.
Same, box anchor with 6’ of chain and plenty of rope.
 

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This doesn't have a F'n thing to do with recreational boating. But, if you're interested -

Early on in my Maritime career I advanced from Capt of passenger carrying vessels up to 100 T (mostly large sportfishing boats) to Master of Oilfield Supply and Anchor Handling Ships. Talk about 2 totally different worlds. I was immediately introduced to oil field anchor handling, in a foreign country with a foreign crew. It is extremely difficult and dangerous work. Particularly for those on deck. 100% communication is vital between the Master handling the vessel, the vessel winch operator and the Crew working the deck. There has been tremendous advancement in equipment, in all aspects, since I jumped in. The first time I had the winch operator suck the giant, old style, Danforth anchor up to the stern roller, was an unforgettable WTF! moment for me. It barely fit up and over onto our stern deck. The anchors in this video are smaller, new style with advanced holding capabilities. The old style relied solely on size, mass and weight. Safety standards have increased 300%. We had no hydraulic 'shark jaws'. Now, most boat Handling is done with Dynamic Positioning systems. Tension monitors were unheard of. I learned old style, twin props and rudders with a bow thruster. And had to do it all by hand, no DP. Amount of tension was determined by your ear and strain on the main engines and winches. My first anchor handling crew was a mix of experienced Yugoslav and Philippine seamen. I'll never forget seeing, in the middle of the job, middle of the night, in rough seas, our excellent Philippine Cook, wearing shorts and flip flops, carrying a tray of large cups of hot soup to his crew buddies on deck, as he jumped back and forth over the massive work cable under tension, stretched down the deck. I yelled down, get off the deck to the Cook. I was told, He does that all the time. I said, Not Anymore.

Fortunately, I moved on to fleet management, supervising vessel construction and repair, and then up to Master of large, non oil field, scientific survey vessels. Nothing in my 40 year career even approached those unbelievable (WTF!) anchor handling experiences. BTW - the operation in the attached video was conducted in excellent weather conditions. That wasn't the norm.
 
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danforth type will grab better 95 percent of the time box anchor imo is overated.

The box will set faster but not grab as good as fluke which is fine for sandbar or similar.I carry both types on my boat usually the danforth is for shore anchoring if camping and the box i will use for quick anchoring where i will be on boat or close by.I have never used chain on either and no issues with setting anchors i just let out lot of rope and pull it back gently til set.

Most think the box is magic cant tell you how many times isee a boat drift with anchor line practically straight down and the driftee telling my im the one moving LOL because he has a box anchor
 

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Small box with plenty of line. For example in steamboat depth is usually 10-12 ft and I have out 30-40ft of line. Never have issues. No chain 23’ boat too
 

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I have a Fortress FX-11 for the bow and an FX-7 as a back-up. I also keep a box and a beach spike on board. If I am anchoring for lunch, the box is great. If it will be overnight, I use the Fortress. The FX-11 has 15' of rubber coated chain. I know it's over-kill but I am also an ocean rag sailor so, I've been in some s#it while at anchor.

Funny story, I bought the box after not losing one but TWO FX-11s on different occasions while anchored near Black Meadow.😂 They must have grabbed a tree.
 

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I have a ridiculous 20lb cast iron Danforth style anchor that once set is solid and quiet the pain in the ass to retrieve!
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I need to replace the flat steel Danforth that is in the jet boat because the welds have failed and it's only a matter of time before that anchor is nothing more than scrap metal. I like being able to bury my anchor in the sand and hopefully not kick it later in the day.
 

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I’ve got the large box anchor for my Howard 22 Offshore, it holds fine as I very seldom anchor my boat. It’s always a bitch to pull up with an extra 20 lbs of mud and that spiky ass seaweed crap.
 

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Small Box for temporary day anchoring, no chain, just rope and a ball (I've had mixed results with the box anchor, water depth and line played a roll each time it let go, otherwise it is easy to use and set). Danforth, with chain, good line, and a ball for long term/bad weather. Lots of spare rebar and line for spring lines or stern lines to the shore depending on if we are anchored or beached and weather conditions. Slide anchor for day beaching.
 

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I have the medium or large in the my Cobra (26ft) I've used it at the sandbar, in the current with 20ft of rope in 5ft of water, never an issue. I've dropped it in Steamboat, never let you enough line and it's held fine, even in a breeze. Have a small one for the Stoker, used it the other day at the small sandbar, with 15ft of line in 2 ft of water, no issue.
 

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Large box anchor, with plenty of line. I don't run a chain. Holds my 28' against river current if needed, once set. the key is using plenty of line and getting it out there a ways
 

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I have the large box anchor, no chain, plenty of line and haven't had any issues with it yet.
 

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@rvrrat350 likes to just toss a box anchor in the water next to his disconnected rope, and watch it disappear.......
I did that 20 years ago in Parker. Regular anchor though I heard the ooohs from friends as anchor landed. Back then I kept my scuba gear in truck tank and fins so slowly snuck off come back with tank on entered just upriver and found the damn anchor in and came out with it. Also found a large box anchor in needles used gear to go get it. Saw reflection looked like someone ran over the rope cut it got 120 bucks for that anchor.
 

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Fluke ...

I used a Box for a couple of seasons... I must be Box challenged because I could not get that thing to grab....

A boating buddy uses a Box all the time with no issues ....
 

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You can have the largest box anchor they make but if you aren't using the correct length of line its not going to hold. I have a the small box anchor with 100’ of line with a danik hook. Works great holding my 20’ stoker in 6mph current.

It's all about the scope 🤙
 

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I don’t use one I just tie up to someone who already has one set. I also use their fenders as well while tied up.
 

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Large box anchors and I added chain to them a few years ago. The chain makes a difference even though they work decent without it.
 

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My wife is my anchor..
Me too but she kept floating up🤔 so I switched to an 18lb Richter anchor.

We anchor alot in a steep narrow canyon so you can't run out a 7:1 line. I use 5' of chain and a bungee, silicone surgical tubing inside tubular nylon webbing to keep it from pulling when the boat raises and lowers or gets jerked from someone jumping off and drop a similar setup off the stern. LInes are closer to 2:1 just not enough room for the boat to spin around one anchor in the wind.

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Me too but she kept floating up🤔 so I switched to an 18lb Richter anchor.

We anchor alot in a steep narrow canyon so you can't run out a 7:1 line. I use 5' of chain and a bungee, silicone surgical tubing inside tubular nylon webbing to keep it from pulling when the boat raises and lowers or gets jerked from someone jumping off and drop a similar setup off the stern. LInes are closer to 2:1 just not enough room for the boat to spin around one anchor in the wind.

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I have a Fortress FX-11 for the bow and an FX-7 as a back-up. I also keep a box and a beach spike on board. If I am anchoring for lunch, the box is great. If it will be overnight, I use the Fortress. The FX-11 has 15' of rubber coated chain. I know it's over-kill but I am also an ocean rag sailor so, I've been in some s#it while at anchor.

Funny story, I bought the box after not losing one but TWO FX-11s on different occasions while anchored near Black Meadow.😂 They must have grabbed a tree.
I used Fortress anchors on most of my boats. Had an FX-7 on my 290 Sundancer, it held in a Texas thunderstorm with 40 MPH gusts and pretty big whitecaps, 40' of water and a 5:1 scope. They easily take a set and hold on.
 
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