This Christmas, Salvation Army Wants White Donors to Offer a ‘Sincere Apology’ for Their Racism

[Taboma]

I find this seriously irritating and I'm apologizing about being white, ever, to anybody.
I honestly thought it was pure bullshit when a neighbor forwarded it to me. He's known for the occasional not well researched fake news.
Nope, when I googled it, even the Hulltruth has a thread on it.

This is some serious bullshit and it's going to take some restraint not to mention it to one of the bell ringers, respectfully of course.

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https://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside-chat/1196266-salvation-army-apology.html

If this is a Vin then oops, but didn't see it on the first page.

 

[Shlbyntro]

Sounds like a great way to piss off a bunch of potential donors.... go fuck yourselves.

 

[4Waters]

Yeah, not apologizing for something I haven't done

Can't wait to see one of those guys out front of target and tell him to fuck off as I walk by

 

[Guest06]

I’ve the last ten or so years given 100$ bill to them each Christmas, can tell you this much, that has officially ended after this read.

 

[HCP3]

Get woke go broke. Bad move.

 

[DLC]

I didn’t know the Salvation Army was racist! I’m sorry I won’t donate to them any more!

no more red kettle!

 

[nameisbond]

Fuck them!!!!!

 

[was thatguy]

Unreal.
I’m done, and I’ve given to them for my entire adult life.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Unreal.
I’m done, and I’ve given to them for my entire adult life.

That's what's so sad. I have always given to them during the holidays...at Wally World, Home Depot and Ace Hardware since I moved here.

Charity starts at home I guess. I'm sure I can find a way to spend some extra money on my own kids...even if they are "mostly white"

 

[Taboma]

One thing I do strive to do is ferret out the truth behind the news or what I read on the internet. I'm human, and as such imperfect, so I'd be the first to admit I'm not always right.
I started this thread because it seriously ruffled my white feathers. After sitting a bit on it, I decided to look further, so I went to the source, the Salvation Army's website Newsroom. I found the following, and although it doesn't quote the post title, it does seem to address what it feels are false claims being made by groups against it's mission and and racial policy.

Since it's dated today, Nov 25th I suspect it's in direct response to the internet articles. I'll let their own news release on this topic speak for itself rather than interject any personal conclusions.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty in spreading unfounded internet news, if so for that I will apologize.

The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism | The Salvation Army USA

Falsehoods attempt to mislabel our organization to serve individual agendas, but we remain undeterred in our work.

www.salvationarmyusa.org

 

[Shlbyntro]

One thing I do strive to do is ferret out the truth behind the news or what I read on the internet. I'm human, and as such imperfect, so I'd be the first to admit I'm not always right.
I started this thread because it seriously ruffled my white feathers. After sitting a bit on it, I decided to look further, so I went to the source, the Salvation Army's website Newsroom. I found the following, and although it doesn't quote the post title, it does seem to address what it feels are false claims being made by groups against it's mission and and racial policy.

Since it's dated today, Nov 25th I suspect it's in direct response to the internet articles. I'll let their own news release on this topic speak for itself rather than interject any personal conclusions.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty in spreading unfounded internet news, if so for that I will apologize.

The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism | The Salvation Army USA

Falsehoods attempt to mislabel our organization to serve individual agendas, but we remain undeterred in our work.

www.salvationarmyusa.org

From their statement, it sounds like it still came from a sect within the organization and that there is some difference of opinion within of what the organization stands for

 

[Taboma]

From their statement, it sounds like it still came from a sect within the organization and that there is some difference of opinion within of what the organization stands for

Interesting take, although I'm not reading that direct association, I see where the wording is ambiguous enough it's certainly an "Internal" possibility.

 

[SpeedyWho]

They're a weird cult type of group in the first place. I don't give them shit and this year I'll be sure to flip them off as well.

 

[Cdog]

 

[Sleek-Jet]

From their statement, it sounds like it still came from a sect within the organization and that there is some difference of opinion within of what the organization stands for

The militant wing of the Salvation Army?

 

[500bbc]

Fuck those FUCKING FUCKS!
I gave them money all year every year.
FUCK RIGHT OFF!

 

[Taboma]

Fuck those FUCKING FUCKS!
I gave them money all year every year.
FUCK RIGHT OFF!

The question that bares answering is --- is this "White Apology" coming from the Salvation Army at all, pure BS, or a more radical group within the organization stirring the Holiday pot ?
In any case, it seems at least those in charge of the main body, are trying to distance themselves by claiming that no official statement was made in that regard.

 

[Looking Glass]

One thing I do strive to do is ferret out the truth behind the news or what I read on the internet. I'm human, and as such imperfect, so I'd be the first to admit I'm not always right.
I started this thread because it seriously ruffled my white feathers. After sitting a bit on it, I decided to look further, so I went to the source, the Salvation Army's website Newsroom. I found the following, and although it doesn't quote the post title, it does seem to address what it feels are false claims being made by groups against it's mission and and racial policy.

Since it's dated today, Nov 25th I suspect it's in direct response to the internet articles. I'll let their own news release on this topic speak for itself rather than interject any personal conclusions.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty in spreading unfounded internet news, if so for that I will apologize.

The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism | The Salvation Army USA

Falsehoods attempt to mislabel our organization to serve individual agendas, but we remain undeterred in our work.

www.salvationarmyusa.org

Fake News!!

 

[monkeyswrench]

In their response, one thing stands out as an odd statement:
"...some have taken the fact that we have invited conversation about race with our members..."
To me, this means it was meant to be an internal deal amongst membership. Maybe one member decided to disagree, and forward the memo?

 

[Taboma]

Fake News!!

Ummm, which news, the request for White Apology or the denial or both ??

 

[Looking Glass]

Ummm, which news, the request for White Apology or the denial or both ??

 

[Taboma]

In their response, one thing stands out as an odd statement:
"...some have taken the fact that we have invited conversation about race with our members..."
To me, this means it was meant to be an internal deal amongst membership. Maybe one member decided to disagree, and forward the memo?

No doubt "The Guides" they published were for internal use only and I'm curious if it's a statement made in a guide " Intended to foster conversation" that lit somebody's fire ??

"The Salvation Army has occasionally published study guides on various complex topics, including race, to help foster positive conversations and reflection among Salvationists. The hope is that by openly discussing these issues, we can encourage a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to serve those in need. These guides are solely designed for internal use. No one is being told how to think. Period."

 

[Dan Lorenze]

I looked for this claim on the inter web. Didn't see much on it. hmm..

 

[Taboma]

I looked for this claim on the inter web. Didn't see much on it. hmm..

Google this and I think you'll find plenty ---- salvation army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism

 

[RitcheyRch]

Fuck them and will never donate to them again.

 

[Singleton]

Well, my annual donation will be heading elsewhere now!

 

[SixD9R]

Before everyone gets their panties in a twist, can somebody show me where the Salvation Army actually said they want white people to apologize?

Until then I’m calling BS.

Sorry but I’m just not seeing it anywhere on their website and I’ve looked.

 

[Taboma]

Before everyone gets their panties in a twist, can somebody show me where the Salvation Army actually said they want white people to apologize?

Until then I’m calling BS.

Sorry but I’m just not seeing it anywhere on their website and I’ve looked.

While you were looking, did you happen to follow the link I posted above in post # 10 ? Several subsequent posts discuss the Salvation Army's official rebuttal to these claims found with that link from their website. So yes, I get the BS, the question remains, is this "White Apology" story coming from a group within the Army, or from outside and what's the motive.

I'll repost the link ---

The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism | The Salvation Army USA

Falsehoods attempt to mislabel our organization to serve individual agendas, but we remain undeterred in our work.

www.salvationarmyusa.org

 

[SixD9R]

While you were looking, did you happen to follow the link I posted above in post # 10 ? Several subsequent posts discuss the Salvation Army's official rebuttal to these claims found with that link from their website. So yes, I get the BS, the question remains, is this "White Apology" story coming from a group within the Army, or from outside and what's the motive.

I'll repost the link ---

The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism | The Salvation Army USA

Falsehoods attempt to mislabel our organization to serve individual agendas, but we remain undeterred in our work.

www.salvationarmyusa.org

Before I got that far down the thread I already saw the article you linked on the SA website.
After I read the first few posts I went straight to the SA website and tried to verify the info in your OP.
Even farther down in this thread (past #10) it appears peeps were still saying they are done donating to them which is sad to me because I do think they are a decent charity. Your post #24 still seems to collaborate the (likely) misinformation.

 

[500bbc]

The question that bares answering is --- is this "White Apology" coming from the Salvation Army at all, pure BS, or a more radical group within the organization stirring the Holiday pot ?
In any case, it seems at least those in charge of the main body, are trying to distance themselves by claiming that no official statement was made in that regard.

Hopefully. They always rated highly as a charity to donate too

 

[500bbc]

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No doubt "The Guides" they published were for internal use only and I'm curious if it's a statement made in a guide " Intended to foster conversation" that lit somebody's fire ??

"The Salvation Army has occasionally published study guides on various complex topics, including race, to help foster positive conversations and reflection among Salvationists. The hope is that by openly discussing these issues, we can encourage a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to serve those in need. These guides are solely designed for internal use. No one is being told how to think. Period."

Pablum...

 

[500bbc]

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While you were looking, did you happen to follow the link I posted above in post # 10 ? Several subsequent posts discuss the Salvation Army's official rebuttal to these claims found with that link from their website. So yes, I get the BS, the question remains, is this "White Apology" story coming from a group within the Army, or from outside and what's the motive.

I'll repost the link ---

The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism | The Salvation Army USA

Falsehoods attempt to mislabel our organization to serve individual agendas, but we remain undeterred in our work.

www.salvationarmyusa.org

They can say anything at this point. If they, as a charity, made this statement at any point even internally they can go fuck themselves.

 

[Wheeler]

Fuck those FUCKING FUCKS!
I gave them money all year every year.
FUCK RIGHT OFF!

Cracker puleeezzzz You don't want no nappy headed hoe going without a new gucci bag this year! do ya?

NEWS

Salvation Army's Donors Withdraw Support in Response to Racial 'Wokeness' Initiative​

Donors Withdraw as Salvation Army Enacts Racial 'Wokeness'

Following the incorporation of a new "woke" initiative into its curriculum, some Salvation Army officers and donors are withdrawing their support.

www.newsweek.com

Fuck those FUCKING FUCKS!
I gave them money all year every year.
FUCK RIGHT OFF!

 

[Kenny D]

I donate several thousand dollars a year to them.....if this is true, my money is going to others places. I listen to a few people on the radio who promote them....I am interested to hear their opinion on this subject.

 

[HBCraig]

Cracker puleeezzzz You don't want no nappy headed hoe going without a new gucci bag this year! do ya?

NEWS

Salvation Army's Donors Withdraw Support in Response to Racial 'Wokeness' Initiative​

Donors Withdraw as Salvation Army Enacts Racial 'Wokeness'

Following the incorporation of a new "woke" initiative into its curriculum, some Salvation Army officers and donors are withdrawing their support.

www.newsweek.com

Just go to San Francisco and follow the other homies in the loot line. All the Gucci you can have

 

[spectras only]

Epic failure by the TSA leadership if this turns out they let some woke in their members to push CRT. Again. it will hurt those who needs the TSA's help the most. Some says now that this is fake news, but the saying is , if there's smoke there's fire. The TSA should 100% be colour blind and non political!

 

[OLDRAAT]

If this ends up being exposed as true, my donation will be used at the liquor store this year.

 

[Pivot]

I hate bells. No donation from me.
Im a bell racist

 

[Taboma]

Before I got that far down the thread I already saw the article you linked on the SA website.
After I read the first few posts I went straight to the SA website and tried to verify the info in your OP.
Even farther down in this thread (past #10) it appears peeps were still saying they are done donating to them which is sad to me because I do think they are a decent charity. Your post #24 still seems to collaborate the (likely) misinformation.

Misunderstood, but it seems Wheeler found a Newsweek article explaining in great detail what's going on inside the TSA's pushing the CRT agenda.
That being the case, they're taking a position that although perhaps not stated verbatim, certainly promotes "White Apology", so I'm out.
Seems their press release I posted in #10, was clearly an attempt at feeding us Pablum as @500bbc saw it.

 

[mjc]

I quit giving to any of these organizations sometime ago and only do local now.

 

[was thatguy]

Their “resource study guide” clearly spells out their stance insisting that whites are inherently racist and perpetuate racism merely by not admitting their own racism, in so many words.
It’s real, and even a quick search reveals several links to their own literature sayin as much.

They are dead to me.

I don’t know if this was part of the original post, but there’s a slew of links to it.

From their “resource”...
“And as we engage in conversations about race and racism, we must keep in mind that sincere repentance and apologies are necessary if we want to move towards racial reconciliation. We recognize that it is a profound challenge to sit on the hot seat and listen with an open heart to the hurt and anger of the wounded. Yet, we are all hardwired to desire justice and fairness, so the need to receive a sincere apology is necessary,” said the resource.

In an accompanying Study Guide on Racism, the Salvation Army says whites are racist. “The subtle nature of racism is such that people who are not consciously racist easily function with the privileges, empowerment and benefits of the dominant ethnicity, thus unintentionally perpetuating injustice,” it says.

“We must stop denying the existence of individual and systemic/institutional racism. They exist, and are still at work to keep White Americans in power,” the lesson says.

Fuck them and their bullshit.

 

[Ricks raft]

Don't know if true or not, but I believe they are the best large charity in terms of percentage of money actually getting to the nerdy. Red cross, and others are horrible. Like less than 10%.

 

[FreeBird236]

Don't know if true or not, but I believe they are the best large charity in terms of percentage of money actually getting to the nerdy. Red cross, and others are horrible. Like less than 10%.

This is true, and why it's such a shame that they have apparently screwed themselves.

 

[was thatguy]

Don't know if true or not, but I believe they are the best large charity in terms of percentage of money actually getting to the nerdy. Red cross, and others are horrible. Like less than 10%.

I’ve always been told the same.
Dad said in Korea they received care packages at Christmas and holidays from TSA and no one else other than family.
He always gave to them because of that.
So that’s why I always have.
But sorry, I’m not going to give shit to any charity that says I need to apologize for being born.
Looks like Ronald McDonald house will pick up that coin from me.

 

[ElAzul]

So the majority of white people are supposed to give money to another white person (can't say I've seen to many black bellringers) and apologize to each other? I'm gonna throw a quarter in the kettle and tell the old lady /dude I'm sorry for being white and see what happens

 

[was thatguy]

So the majority of white people are supposed to give money to another white person (can't say I've seen to many black bellringers) and apologize to each other? I'm gonna throw a quarter in the kettle and tell the old lady /dude I'm sorry for being white and see what happens

See if I was a racist like they say I am, I might quip that there aren’t that many black bell ringers because they tend to steal the money....but since I’m not a racist I won’t say that.

 

[Looking Glass]

So the majority of white people are supposed to give money to another white person (can't say I've seen to many black bellringers) and apologize to each other? I'm gonna throw a quarter in the kettle and tell the old lady /dude I'm sorry for being white and see what happens

NOT their fault, just trying to make a $.

Not sitting on their ASS, sucking Unemployment.

 

[Rayson1971]

Yeah, not apologizing for something I haven't done

Can't wait to see one of those guys out front of target and tell him to fuck off as I walk by

Post where you see them in simi. I will make sure I say something. There is usually one at 99 cent store on tapo

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

I’ve always been told the same.
Dad said in Korea they received care packages at Christmas and holidays from TSA and no one else other than family.
He always gave to them because of that.
So that’s why I always have.
But sorry, I’m not going to give shit to any charity that says I need to apologize for being born.
Looks like Ronald McDonald house will pick up that coin from me.

RMH is a great charity. Lori and I spend many many nights there back in the day. We’ve been donors in the past.

As to the TSA, all I needed to read in their statement was “we all know racism exists”. No need to read any further.

It’s no different than all the stories from the left during the Trump administration that stated “we all know DJT is a racist”.

Debate is an art, misdirection and obfuscation is a cowards tool to fool the masses.

 

[havasuhusker]

My wife and I used to support their Christmas Angel program. No way in hell am I doing it anymore. Salvation Army can go F**k themselves!