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Skater 368, from the beginning.

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  1. nganga

    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Been meaning to put this up for a while. Most know that building a Skater isn't a short process. Long periods of time go by with seemingly no progress, so updating a build thread would prove slow.

    There's been enough behind the build now, progress is moving well. The boat is supposed to be in my hands, prior Desert Storm, 2020.

    The date on the sales contract was 2-5-2019, for perspective.

    I think once folks see how detailed the process is, they will understand why they take upwards of two years to produce. Skater flat does things, others just don't do, thus taking copious amounts of time.

    I'm no expert on building boats. I may not explain some of this properly or use wrong terminology. I Just wanted to share a different manufacturing process with the forum.

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    Foam core, Balsa and Carbon Fiber. Some bagging already.

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    Bulkheads going in.

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    This picture shows the amount of bulkheads. The cockpit and engine bays are discernible now.

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    The bulkhead material itself is interesting. Foam core, balsa core sandwiched with Carbon Fiber. Fuel tanks can be seen on the left.

    More to add later today.
     
  2. Gelcoater

    Gelcoater Well-Known Member

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    It’s about damn time! :cool:
     
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    You are a much more patient man than I!!!!!!
     
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    Right?!?! Lol
     
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  5. lake p.a.l.

    lake p.a.l. Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for sharing. I certainly hope you have it by Desert Storm but wouldn't hold my breath.
    Let me know when you need a ride in a slow Skater so yours will feel that much faster......:D
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Here's where I fall on this. If it's done for DS, fantastic. If its not, no big deal. I want it, when its done. I knew how long this takes when I ordered it. I was and am willing to wait for it.

    It'll be at Big Cat worst case.

    Steve
     
  7. lake p.a.l.

    lake p.a.l. Well-Known Member

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    Please wave as you fly by me... ....:D
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    I dunno, you O/B guys seem to be able to hold the speed all day. You might be waving at me, as YOU fly by. :D
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Skater, being a full custom manufacturer, will do about anything you want. They will narrow or widen your boat. @getreal had his widened I think 19". They also offer a "lo-pro" cut, which I opted for. Cutting it down gives it a much sleeker and I think sexier, almost organic look. Here's my cut. As you can see it appears to be 8-10 " cut.

    One of the many advantages of having a "flatdeck" boat, the height and width don't matter.

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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    hull.jpg

    After cut-down complete.
     
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  11. nganga

    nganga Well-Known Member

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    deck.jpg

    Picture is obviously the deck laid onto hull. The one piece deck extends over the top of the bustle, which is beginning to be formed.

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    Tunnel extension is shown. It becomes integral with the bustle.

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    Looks like its going to be a kick ass build, looking forward to watching the progress with your updates and pictures!
     
  13. nganga

    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Sanding, shaping. There are some deck profile features actually sanded into the deck. The Large single deck hatch I chose is visible now, as is the hatch register. Skater offers a large choice in hatches. I picked the big single. Its big enough for any camping gear, large tents, shades or luggage. It extends down into the sponsons.
     
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    Love the cut-down look on the Skaters. It makes these big girls look lean and mean. :)
     
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  15. lake p.a.l.

    lake p.a.l. Well-Known Member

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    It's looking FANTASTIC!! I love the idea of a large single hatch. You could crawl down there if you ever had an emergency & fender/line stowage should be very simple. Congrats
     
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    I tried like hell to talk him into green.:cool:
    If done right green is sinister as all get out.
    Rumor has it, it will be red.
    Their paint guy is talented as F$&K!
    It’s going to be bad ass.
    (Thumbs up thingy here) F’n Dave! :mad:
    Where’s the thumbs up thing?
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Green? I think Green is rad...right now. I also think its gonna go out of popularity eventually. But all wouldn't be lost, I kept my pink Oakley M-frames and bell bottoms too. :D:D
     
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  19. precisiondetails

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    Can’t wait to see a paint Rendering. Lol

    it’s gonna be impressive
     
  20. nganga

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    Lets talk bustles. If you upgrade to include a tunnel extension/bustle, you pretty much get whatever your mind can conceive. Wife and I looked at a bunch of different designs. The one on this red 46 we really liked. We also don't want to steal some else's design.

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    This one as well. They're wiping this 388 down getting ready to start paint.

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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Yea. Me too. :D
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Here's our bustle progress

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    On this picture, you can see the pencil lines, where the sides will be cut. The engine hatch registers are also in now, as is the tool compartment register between the hatches.

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    Thank you for taking the time to post all these pictures and details. Can’t wait to see it when it’s done.:cool:
     
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    Awesome build thread thanks! Insane facility they have there, had no idea it was that big until I saw a shop tour video a little while back. Looks like the only molds are really for the bare hulls? The decks and bustles are all hand made is that correct?
     
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  25. precisiondetails

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    yes that is correct.

    and yes the skater factory is quite impressive. I’ve been there 3 times myself and always find out cool stuff.
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Correct. There isn't even a deck mold there. I think Its 90,000 square feet. Anyone who has any interest in performance catamarans, needs to visit Skater. The place has no signage at all, just a 8 x 10 picture taped to the front door.

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    I don’t know Steve’s color choice but I’d bet my first born it won’t be green lol
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    “You don’ Know my color choice”. Are you new here?

    :D
     
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    You didn’t sense I was being facetious
     
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    Bonus points for vocabulary:p
    Wow, all their decks are custom hand built deals? They have some talent working in that building. My God, I wouldn't want the be the guy who blocks and preps for paint either:confused:
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Which is exactly why I said that people would begin to understand why it takes the time to build a Skater. We toured MTI the day after we initially toured Skater. while MTI builds an awesome boat, they are essentially a production boat company. The quote from MTI was significantly higher than the Skater.
     
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  32. nganga

    nganga Well-Known Member

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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe there is another manufacturer that Vacuum Bags deck to hull.

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    mjc Nosy Neighbor

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    What is the time frame of when these were taken is build?
     
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    Freaking awesome! Congrats.
     
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    The contract was signed and deposit sent, 2-5-19. There was a 368 in the mold ahead of me. It was 3-4 weeks before they even got it started, due to mold time. ~3 months in the mold. So, we're at 10 months or so now. I'll put so more picture up tonight when I get home. Its in body right now. The cockpit/windshield register is on. Lots of body work and sanding, before paint. I'm completely satisfied with their progress. "Enjoy the process" as this will be a one and done boat.
     
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    I might of missed it? What power? 1350's?
     
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    700s
     
  40. Instigator

    Instigator Just Livin up to My Name

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    I call bullshit:D
     
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    nganga Well-Known Member

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    Just cuz you called it on the truck, you don't need to always be right. :p
     
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    The 1350's are over 200K per side, with ridiculous refresh intervals. The 700's are ~150K for both, including M6 drives. These things become nearly un-insurable with 1350's as well.
     
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    Yea buddy I'm with ya on all that. I have a 36 cat with 700's, and insurance is getting harder/expensive for that.

    You picked great power. Go ahead and do the better trannys.
     
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    Thanks so much for sharing.. What an incredible build.
     
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    Instigator Just Livin up to My Name

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    That is hard for me but it does become tiresome at times! :D
    LOL
     
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    What an awesome experience. Living the dream for sure. I’d love to do my own build someday. To have it be a Skater is next level. Congrats. Looking forward to the final product.
     
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    I was going to ask why the 368 instead of a 388 but if you were planning on 700s, the 368 is probably a better boat for that power package correct?
     
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    The reason I went 368 is two-fold. First: size, My garage is 47' 6" deep. A 388 on a Skater tilt is over 49'. my 368 will be 45' max on the tilt. Second, I will boat Powell, Havasu mostly. 36' boat is all I want. The 388 with 700's would run pretty good anyway.
     
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    the 368 weighs about 500 pounds less so yes that would be an ideal Skater for the 700s. The only difference with the 2 besides weight is that the 388 sponsons are each 1 inch wider. They both have a 65” tunnel. The 388 is simply a stretched 368. There is a 368 with stock 700s that has run 135 on stock 700s. I bet if Pete built a full carbon race lay up that it would do 138-140.
     
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    Another thing Skater offers is an 8 man cockpit in a 368. 4 up front, 4 in the rear. To accomplish this, they cut the cockpit opening 7 inches wider. I opted for the standard 6 man cockpit. I didn't want to give up the wider gunnel width you get to walk around the windshield.

    This is the windshield mock-up guy. This give you an idea of just how big the cockpit is in a 6 man 388. (This isn't mine)

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