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I was just making a point (with humor) not trying to win an argument..
There is no argument to win here.
I was just making a point (with humor) not trying to win an argument..
i was there one year where they had 5 race UTV and they specifically called them out lol
There is no argument to win here.
I wouldn’t doubt if some lurker clicked the thread and didn’t get the humor they might send an email to someone.. you’d be shocked at how many people click a thread read a few posts and fake shit out of context.. it is one of the downsides to ranking high in google with a forum.
That said I get the joke.
Well if you can’t win, don’t play. It takes 2Impossible with you in the thread. lol. There will be an argument about no argument.
Don’t care to read through the rest of comments. Lol.you are smart enough to know that 95% of the participants are out for a cruise right? Also, that most of these will have a gun in the car. Getting a love tap on a poker run from a guy that's confused about it not being a race is....well ignorant. Have fun, hope you a have good dental plan, someone is not going to be happy with a tap
wait for it...LOF will reply quick
Yeah, I was not looking for a fight or argument; I was just pointing out something to consider. Frankly, I'll learn someday to keep my mouth shut.Which circles back to “why do you post this stuff Ian?” lol.
You're welcome to join our group . Should be at least 8 cars . We like to have a few beers and have fun keeping a mid range pace.
Yeah, I was not looking for a fight or argument; I was just pointing out something to consider. Frankly, I'll learn someday to keep my mouth shut.
The more you know!! Learned something new today….I've no dog in this fight as I'm not participating this year. However, let me play Captain Obvious Fun Spoiler. @Bpracing1127 God forbid some bluehair in a mule accidentally gets bummed while you are up in their ass on the horn in the dust. The snowbird freaks out and grabs all the brakes, and you punt them into the desert. His SIL is an ambulance chaser, and the witness lurks on RDP. Husband/wife experiences trauma resulting in an overload of a ticker, and next thing, Life Flight is responding to the scene.
You might reconsider your public record of your desert bash plans. Drivers who have never experienced the joy of a nerf rarely find it amusing. It seems plenty of available routes are not clogged up with people on a social cruise; perhaps a different plan should be considered like the Parker 400 or Parker Dam races coming soon.
What if somebody you've pissed off just sends a link to this thread to the Desert Bash organizer, and when you pick up your envelope, they turn you away?
Or the good old Google keyword alert? How do I set up Google Alerts for keywords?
Create an alert
When I'm promoting events, I'm watching this like a hawk.
- Go to Google Alerts.
- In the box at the top, enter a topic you want to follow.
- To change your settings, click Show options. You can change: How often you get notifications. The types of sites you'll see. Your language. ...
- Click Create Alert. You'll get emails whenever we find matching search results.
The more you know!! Learned something new today….
Let’s put on a fun run!
Havasu to Hualapai for Lunch and back. Day trip.I wouldn't mind doing something around New Years! I'd rather be out in the dirt than sitting around here.
RD
Havasu to Hualapai for Lunch and back. Day trip.
It would have to be a Riders ride. Not a beer cruise.
I’m down if anyone else is.
8am depart from Pilot and Back by sunset.
Isn't it snowing up there? It's gotta be balls cold..
I was thinking like camping in Parker and running the race course or something.. LOL.
RD
At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all, I will share my sensitivity to this subject. For the record, I passionately hate this policy I am about to share.The more you know!! Learned something new today….
Let’s put on a fun run!
Hence why the dam run is such a small event now.At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all, I will share my sensitivity to this subject. For the record, I passionately hate this policy I am about to share.
A cautionary tale:
Following the California 200 I served on a BLM committee regarding Special Recreation Permits (SRPs). As part of my duties, I had to understand the SRP process.
I have a certified letter I keep from the Department of the Interior threatening me with a Federal Class A Misdemeanor for violation of the BLM SRP process. Since I knew the process well, I was within the intent of the regulations, but subjectively, the bureaucracy disagreed. I have not organized or promoted an event since because I don't want to fight with a Federal Agency. Regardless of being on the right side of this, I would have to invest in defending myself and risk a minimum sentence of 6 months.
Why am I sharing this story?
Under the regulations, any "event" that takes place on public lands managed by the BLM is required to obtain a 'Special Recreation Permit."One of the triggers for a defined event is advertising. The use of social networks is defined as advertising. Meaning that organizing a Fun Run on RDP could be described as an event and trigger all kinds of happy horse shit from the BLM. One example of this was that, for a while, groups traveling on the Mojave Road would get harassed by BLM LEOs for permits.
BLM manager's personalities differ by region. They almost never manage in the same way in different districts. However, some BLM SRP managers are real asshats, and they follow local social media channels. It is best to keep your plans in a private space and fly below the radar. A free event does not disqualify the need to obtain an SRP.
I can't speak to the other acronym bureaucrats.
Don't underestimate the power of RDP in search and reach. There are a lot of people lurking on RDP who just don't participate in the conversations.
At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all, I will share my sensitivity to this subject. For the record, I passionately hate this policy I am about to share.
A cautionary tale:
Following the California 200 I served on a BLM committee regarding Special Recreation Permits (SRPs). As part of my duties, I had to understand the SRP process.
I have a certified letter I keep from the Department of the Interior threatening me with a Federal Class A Misdemeanor for violation of the BLM SRP process. Since I knew the process well, I was within the intent of the regulations, but subjectively, the bureaucracy disagreed. I have not organized or promoted an event since because I don't want to fight with a Federal Agency. Regardless of being on the right side of this, I would have to invest in defending myself and risk a minimum sentence of 6 months.
Why am I sharing this story?
Under the regulations, any "event" that takes place on public lands managed by the BLM is required to obtain a 'Special Recreation Permit."One of the triggers for a defined event is advertising. The use of social networks is defined as advertising. Meaning that organizing a Fun Run on RDP could be described as an event and trigger all kinds of happy horse shit from the BLM. One example of this was that, for a while, groups traveling on the Mojave Road would get harassed by BLM LEOs for permits.
BLM manager's personalities differ by region. They almost never manage in the same way in different districts. However, some BLM SRP managers are real asshats, and they follow local social media channels. It is best to keep your plans in a private space and fly below the radar. A free event does not disqualify the need to obtain an SRP.
I can't speak to the other acronym bureaucrats.
Don't underestimate the power of RDP in search and reach. There are a lot of people lurking on RDP who just don't participate in the conversations.
Isn't it snowing up there? It's gotta be balls cold..
I was thinking like camping in Parker and running the race course or something.. LOL.
RD
Or the electric jacket. Going out in the snow looks like it would be a blast. When are you going to set up a ride up there for RDP?View attachment 1308138
Bring a blankie butter cup
Great to know, sad to read... I enjoy promoting events and watching everything come to life the weekend of. I don't enjoy towing the line of bureaucracy and government approval to do something fun...At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all, I will share my sensitivity to this subject. For the record, I passionately hate this policy I am about to share.
A cautionary tale:
Following the California 200 I served on a BLM committee regarding Special Recreation Permits (SRPs). As part of my duties, I had to understand the SRP process.
I have a certified letter I keep from the Department of the Interior threatening me with a Federal Class A Misdemeanor for violation of the BLM SRP process. Since I knew the process well, I was within the intent of the regulations, but subjectively, the bureaucracy disagreed. I have not organized or promoted an event since because I don't want to fight with a Federal Agency. Regardless of being on the right side of this, I would have to invest in defending myself and risk a minimum sentence of 6 months.
Why am I sharing this story?
Under the regulations, any "event" that takes place on public lands managed by the BLM is required to obtain a 'Special Recreation Permit."One of the triggers for a defined event is advertising. The use of social networks is defined as advertising. Meaning that organizing a Fun Run on RDP could be described as an event and trigger all kinds of happy horse shit from the BLM. One example of this was that, for a while, groups traveling on the Mojave Road would get harassed by BLM LEOs for permits.
BLM manager's personalities differ by region. They almost never manage in the same way in different districts. However, some BLM SRP managers are real asshats, and they follow local social media channels. It is best to keep your plans in a private space and fly below the radar. A free event does not disqualify the need to obtain an SRP.
I can't speak to the other acronym bureaucrats.
Don't underestimate the power of RDP in search and reach. There are a lot of people lurking on RDP who just don't participate in the conversations.
At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all, I will share my sensitivity to this subject. For the record, I passionately hate this policy I am about to share.
A cautionary tale:
Following the California 200 I served on a BLM committee regarding Special Recreation Permits (SRPs). As part of my duties, I had to understand the SRP process.
I have a certified letter I keep from the Department of the Interior threatening me with a Federal Class A Misdemeanor for violation of the BLM SRP process. Since I knew the process well, I was within the intent of the regulations, but subjectively, the bureaucracy disagreed. I have not organized or promoted an event since because I don't want to fight with a Federal Agency. Regardless of being on the right side of this, I would have to invest in defending myself and risk a minimum sentence of 6 months.
Why am I sharing this story?
Under the regulations, any "event" that takes place on public lands managed by the BLM is required to obtain a 'Special Recreation Permit."One of the triggers for a defined event is advertising. The use of social networks is defined as advertising. Meaning that organizing a Fun Run on RDP could be described as an event and trigger all kinds of happy horse shit from the BLM. One example of this was that, for a while, groups traveling on the Mojave Road would get harassed by BLM LEOs for permits.
BLM manager's personalities differ by region. They almost never manage in the same way in different districts. However, some BLM SRP managers are real asshats, and they follow local social media channels. It is best to keep your plans in a private space and fly below the radar. A free event does not disqualify the need to obtain an SRP.
I can't speak to the other acronym bureaucrats.
Don't underestimate the power of RDP in search and reach. There are a lot of people lurking on RDP who just don't participate in the conversations.
Great to know, sad to read... I enjoy promoting events and watching everything come to life the weekend of. I don't enjoy towing the line of bureaucracy and government approval to do something fun...
Oh I am aware... LOLOver the years I have had a lot of discussions with the coastguard.. there’s grey and not so grey areas there too.. lol.
Desert Storm vs Desert Bash. Attended and enjoyed by many hundreds and in some cases thousands. Each feature a Poker Run, which claim, by the promoters, to not be races. How long would the, now tamed down version, of the DS Poker Run last, if boat operators were claiming they would be ramming some of the slower boats in front of them? Sounds ludicrous doesn’t it? Hypothetical, said in jest, etc etc, there is just no benefit. Particularly when dealing with federally controlled land and waters. Did you ever hear of the very popular Barstow to Vegas dirt bike event? Just my worthless 2 cents.
BTW, if you’ve never done it, weather and trail conditions permitting, the run over the Hualapais from Kingman to the Boreana Mine/Goldfish ponds and out to Alamo Rd is pretty amazing. And it is definitely not a race.
You are right that is a perfect example. It would last just as long as it has currently.
Recall Desert Storm was basically treated as a race. People challenged each other to get to the first stop first, it was a shotgun start and there were accidents in the past.
And yet we still have the event and sometimes the participants complain about slower boats being in their way on a public open lake for a run that is not a race.
Are you new here?....Well you and Ian have taken a fun thread about getting together and having some fun during desert bash and turned it into this..
Can we get back to Friday night drinks or rides and what groups are rubbing when during desert bash now?
This is insufferable
Well you and Ian have taken a fun thread about getting together and having some fun during desert bash and turned it into this..
Can we get back to Friday night drinks or rides and what groups are rubbing when during desert bash now?
This is insufferable
Have you filed a trademark on RiverKaren'sPlace yet?We were all having some friendly banter and talking about Friday Night pregame festivities until the members of River Karen’s Place stepped in to put Ian in his place .
If people stopped telling each other how to act and live their lives when it isn’t asked for, threads wouldn’t end up like this.
Or just use the ignore button on people you don’t like.
That said there are good pieces of information in the discussion from @Sportin' Wood and others that are probably relevant to the topic and to advertising group camp outs on public lands as the owner of a public forum.
3. RiverDave and 2 kidsDid we get a RDP car count yet?
1. DWC/Mrs DWC
2. @jumppack / Mrs jump pack
Perhaps a spirited trail ride is in order for all the thrill seekers. OnX offroad provides the route, and MotionX GPS can record the time and give a file to upload.
Throw some money in a hat, and the winner takes all. How far you want to go: 250 miles, 300, 400, or 675? There is no need to disrupt a social cruise when you can go all-out cannonball run. You just need a secure place to organize that kind of debauchery outside the prying eyes of the government and a fightclub mentality with a secret handshake. An extra scoop of responsibility for your own actions is required when you run out of talent in the desert, and there is no safety net.
It's a big desert with lots of routes. There's no sense in fiddling around with old people and playing cards if you wanna go fast.
Important Disclaimer:
The avatar known as Sportin'Wood does not condone mischief or reckless behavior, and participation in this online forum is for entertainment purposes only. Opinions, comments, and innuendos are works of fiction designed to inflate the ego of a fictional persona outside the basis of reality. All comments should be thoroughly discredited as false. Professional drivers on closed course. Tread Lightly errrrrr Shred Slightly. Disclaimer reference number OP6C
Perhaps a spirited trail ride is in order for all the thrill seekers. OnX offroad provides the route, and MotionX GPS can record the time and give a file to upload.
Throw some money in a hat, and the winner takes all. How far you want to go: 250 miles, 300, 400, or 675? There is no need to disrupt a social cruise when you can go all-out cannonball run. You just need a secure place to organize that kind of debauchery outside the prying eyes of the government and a fightclub mentality with a secret handshake. An extra scoop of responsibility for your own actions is required when you run out of talent in the desert, and there is no safety net.
It's a big desert with lots of routes. There's no sense in fiddling around with old people and playing cards if you wanna go fast.
Important Disclaimer:
The avatar known as Sportin'Wood does not condone mischief or reckless behavior, and participation in this online forum is for entertainment purposes only. Opinions, comments, and innuendos are works of fiction designed to inflate the ego of a fictional persona outside the basis of reality. All comments should be thoroughly discredited as false. Professional drivers on closed course. Tread Lightly errrrrr Shred Slightly. Disclaimer reference number OP6C
Bails and 1 kidDid we get a RDP car count yet?
1. DWC/Mrs DWC
2. @jumppack / Mrs jump pack
If people stopped telling each other how to act and live their lives when it isn’t asked for, threads wouldn’t end up like this.
Yep. Plenty of ways to do it now. If you can maintain some level of cell coverage, you even have choices for tracking. I've used a Sat based spot tracker for years; I stepped up a few years ago to a Garmin Inreach for a distress signal. The MotionX GPS app works well; I think I've been playing Underground Race with that for many years. Mostly, I Race against myself, but if you had a Hint hint hidden forum, you might be able to share files.Didn’t know they had softwares to record and upload time.. we might have to do something like that.
Sounds like Strava for off-road!Yep. Plenty of ways to do it now. If you can maintain some level of cell coverage, you even have choices for tracking. I've used a Sat based spot tracker for years; I stepped up a few years ago to a Garmin Inreach for a distress signal. The MotionX GPS app works well; I think I've been playing Underground Race with that for many years. Mostly, I Race against myself, but if you had a Hint hint hidden forum, you might be able to share files.
I think that the Polaris App will record and share files as well. Lots of choices.
BP plus 1 kid,
Getting it back on track…..
1. DWC/Mrs DWC
2. @jumppack / Mrs jump pack
3. RiverDave and 2 kids
4. Bails and 1 kid
5. HNL2LHC, Son and our Boss
LargeOrange and a car full of Fonts.1. DWC/Mrs DWC
2. @jumppack / Mrs jump pack
3. RiverDave and 2 kids
4. Bails and 1 kid
5. HNL2LHC, Son and our Boss
6. @Bpracing1127 and the spider monkey.