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OK so I need some advice before I pound in my cousin's face...

So My uncle and cousin came and stayed with me for the weekend, I am really close to my uncle and my cousin is basically the black eye of the family he is a 21 yr old punk plain and simple. I have always tried to treat him like an adult and for the most part he has respected me as well. I have known he used to have sticky fingers when he was younger, and seen it first hand when he attempted shoplifting some stuff when I was with him one time... So anyways, I have started noticeing shit missing after there visit $80 cologne has gone poof along with a hat and a watch... The kid is fucking dead, and I am going to take it out of his ass when I see him... no the prob is that I would really like this shit back. if I rain down the hand of god over the phone all he is going to do is deny it and I will never see this shit again... my only other recourse is to get my uncle invovled and have him try and find the shit before I get this kid on the phone and wring his ass. sugestions comments ?? oh and he still lives with my uncle about 3 hrs away....

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OK so I need some advice before I pound in my cousin's face...

So My uncle and cousin came and stayed with me for the weekend, I am really close to my uncle and my cousin is basically the black eye of the family he is a 21 yr old punk plain and simple. I have always tried to treat him like an adult and for the most part he has respected me as well. I have known he used to have sticky fingers when he was younger, and seen it first hand when he attempted shoplifting some stuff when I was with him one time... So anyways, I have started noticeing shit missing after there visit $80 cologne has gone poof along with a hat and a watch... The kid is fucking dead, and I am going to take it out of his ass when I see him... no the prob is that I would really like this shit back. if I rain down the hand of god over the phone all he is going to do is deny it and I will never see this shit again... my only other recourse is to get my uncle invovled and have him try and find the shit before I get this kid on the phone and wring his ass. sugestions comments ?? oh and he still lives with my uncle about 3 hrs away....

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I'd be pounding on his door unexpected. The cologne will be in his bathroom, he will probably be wearing the hat and watch.
 

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Drive over there all nice and friendly like, get your stuff back, kinna jokin (like ok, you go me!), then once you have your stuff back...

Knock his ass the fuck out!!!!
 

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I just cant even relate to this I have him in my house as a guest... he is family I grew up with .... with the fuck is wrong with people I am so pissed its not even funny
 

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Drive over there all nice and friendly like, get your stuff back, kinna jokin (like ok, you go me!), then once you have your stuff back...

Knock his ass the fuck out!!!!

the kicker is I cant get away anytime soon to spend a day driving from austin to houston and back.... if his ass was within a 100 miles I would have been there yesterday.
 

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write it off... no matter what you do it will be wwrong in the end..

don't let him in your house again..he'll be out of your uncles life soon enough
 

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write it off... no matter what you do it will be wwrong in the end..

don't let him in your house again..he'll be out of your uncles life soon enough

this is an avenue I have thought about as well, but just the fact that he would think that he got away with it....
 

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I agree with writing it off, but I would speak to him about it, to let him know that he didn't get away with it. Also let him know how he caused you to have to cut relations with him.
Sad to hear, for sure.
 

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this is an avenue I have thought about as well, but just the fact that he would think that he got away with it....

you just have to remember all thiefs are liars....

you don't know the lie till you accuse them..

this will only affect your relaitions with your uncle,
 

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Drive over there all nice and friendly like, get your stuff back, kinna jokin (like ok, you go me!), then once you have your stuff back...

Knock his ass the fuck out!!!!


Exactly this! :thumbsup
 

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To me the whole deal falls on the value of the watch. The perfume and hat aren't big money.

If it's a high dollar watch, then call your uncle and have him get your stuff...then pound. If it's an inexpensive watch, pound then explain...
 

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I better check the guns.... the watch wasnt to fancy a spare high end fossil maybe 150-175 that I have worn in a while... guess it just the principal of it all.. all in all prolly 200.00 worth of shit
 

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the kicker is I cant get away anytime soon to spend a day driving from austin to houston and back.... if his ass was within a 100 miles I would have been there yesterday.

then i would go with 2forcefull's suggestion. life is too short to be pissed.

call the uncle and let him get your stuff. if he knows the kid is a theif, it wont be like your gonna offend him.

you can pick your friends, but you cant pick your family...
 

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Same exact thing happened to me a few years ago with my nephew. Except I did not know he was a thief until it was too late. Many things were missing. By the time we put two and two together he was already in prison and my wife's missing ring, which I bought her when we were first married, is long gone. It changed my whole outlook on trust.

Now I'm dealing with klepto teens that my daughter is meeting at school. These are seemingly good suburban kids from seemingly decent families. My daughter caught her "friend" steeling her clothes and make-up. She was shocked and pissed, as was I. I had to explain to her that not all parents take the time to teach their kids right from wrong and how to earn what you get. I think these kids are being raised in such an entitlement mindset that they think everyone owes them something. They think if one kid's parents have nicer stuff they should share the wealth--total bullshit. :grumble:
 

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I'd have Ratso go over , ass tap your aunt and send the kid the video.... That will teach the little bastard a lesson.. or just call your uncle.
 

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I'd have Ratso go over , ass tap your aunt and send the kid the video.... That will teach the little bastard a lesson.. .

That's quality advice right there....:thumbsup

:D
 

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This is exactly why Friends are better than Family, with friends you can choose them, and are not forced to be involved with them. I love having a SMALL SMALL Family, Sister, Dad, Uncle, that's it. Sometimes this is too much for me :skull

Family doesn't get an automatic pass in my book, just like everyone else you will earn my respect, and i should earn yours. Blood scores you no extra points in my book. I'm lucky to say that I have some of the most amazing friends in the world, i would give every one of my friends keys/access to everything and never have to think twice about them fucking any of it up. :thumbsup
 

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i would give every one of my friends keys/access to everything and never have to think twice about them fucking any of it up. :thumbsup

Do you consider Tom Brown, a friend?

:p
 

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then i would go with 2forcefull's suggestion. life is too short to be pissed.

call the uncle and let him get your stuff. if he knows the kid is a theif, it wont be like your gonna offend him.

you can pick your friends, but you cant pick your family...

I agree, It looks like you can cross his name off your Christmas list.
 

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i learned this about people when I had my retail stores...they're all thiefs

people think if it's not locked they can have it..once they justfy that "you owe them" you're screwed..

I all ways said... it's not if... it's when and how much..

example...

george has a company car with a c c for gas..when he fills up
he fills a gas can in the truck.. thief...

sally works at super cuts... cuts her friends hair for free.... thief

bobs neighbor is only there on weekends...bob hooks a hose to the neighbors house to put water in his pool..thief

jimmy works in an office...has drawers full of office suppys at his house...thief
 

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OK so I need some advice before I pound in my cousin's face...

So My uncle and cousin came and stayed with me for the weekend, I am really close to my uncle and my cousin is basically the black eye of the family he is a 21 yr old punk plain and simple. I have always tried to treat him like an adult and for the most part he has respected me as well. I have known he used to have sticky fingers when he was younger, and seen it first hand when he attempted shoplifting some stuff when I was with him one time... So anyways, I have started noticeing shit missing after there visit $80 cologne has gone poof along with a hat and a watch... The kid is fucking dead, and I am going to take it out of his ass when I see him... no the prob is that I would really like this shit back. if I rain down the hand of god over the phone all he is going to do is deny it and I will never see this shit again... my only other recourse is to get my uncle invovled and have him try and find the shit before I get this kid on the phone and wring his ass. sugestions comments ?? oh and he still lives with my uncle about 3 hrs away....

:bash:

You wear 80.00 cologne and you have a 73 Hondo? Am I missing something? :D

RD
 

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I say go break his knees or at least a few ribs... but 2FF is once again the voice of reason and wisdom- DON'T listen to me- TAKE HIS ADVISE!!!
 

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Let it go after you call the Uncle and let him know you will never allow this cousin back in or near your home.
 

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Now I'm dealing with klepto teens that my daughter is meeting at school. These are seemingly good suburban kids from seemingly decent families. My daughter caught her "friend" steeling her clothes and make-up. She was shocked and pissed, as was I. I had to explain to her that not all parents take the time to teach their kids right from wrong and how to earn what you get. I think these kids are being raised in such an entitlement mindset that they think everyone owes them something. They think if one kid's parents have nicer stuff they should share the wealth--total bullshit. :grumble:

John I went through the same thing when my daughters were growing up. It was not just there stuff but mine too. One kid that we had know for years stole my American Express card.
 

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This is why Ive never been a big believer in "Blood is thicker than Water". for me my water is way thicker.
 

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You wear 80.00 cologne and you have a 73 Hondo? Am I missing something? :D

RD

LOL I got rid of the damn boat last winter :) its the only bottle I own and my 73 hondo was bitchen... :skull
 

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I say-- you don't even give the kid the chance to lie about it. You call and tell Uncle about your suspicion, and let HIM snoop around and see if it's true. I say you make the parent aware and suspicious and let them root out the f-n weasel!

When he calls you back, if he sides with the little thief, then he is either covering for the kid, is in cahoots with the kid, or he has blinders on. :bang:
You choose at that point to either make waves....or blow it off by saying that you must have misplaced the stuff, and save your asswhooping and wave-making for the next time they are in town (and obviously NOT stying at your place)! :bash::bash:
 
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I say-- you don't even give the kid the chance to lie about it. You call and tell Uncle about your suspicion, and let HIM snoop around and see if it's true. I say you make the parent aware and suspicious and let them root out the f-n weasel!

When he calls you back, if he sides with the little thief, then he is either covering for the kid, is in cahoots with the kid, or he has blinders on. :bang:
You choose at that point to either make waves....or blow it off by saying that you must have misplaced the stuff, and save your asswhooping and wave-making for the next time they are in town! :bash::bash:

I like this version it has a little bit of everything in it...
 

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Thieves get dealt with one way and one way only. :bash:
 

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I like this version it has a little bit of everything in it...

I say-- you don't even give the kid the chance to lie about it. You call and tell Uncle about your suspicion, and let HIM snoop around and see if it's true. I say you make the parent aware and suspicious and let them root out the f-n weasel!

When he calls you back, if he sides with the little thief, then he is either covering for the kid, is in cahoots with the kid, or he has blinders on. :bang:
You choose at that point to either make waves....or blow it off by saying that you must have misplaced the stuff, and save your asswhooping and wave-making for the next time they are in town (and obviously NOT stying at your place)! :bash::bash:
I have one more perspective;

While the Uncle may know that the son is a thief it is also likely that they have come to terms with this in their own past (more than once probably) and the son is likely to have been remorseful and "Changed his ways". The slime-ball is now 21 and will someday become a man.....or be so far over the edge that it won't matter.

While there would certainly be the gratification of "Pounding him" you likely don't really mean it but it sure would feel good.......and is precisely what I would have done in the past. But time has taught me to be a bit more pragmatic so today here's what I think I would do;

I'd call the kid and let him know that you know what he did (it's likely that he has even more stuff that you haven't noticed yet) and that you don't even want the stuff back. If he needs it that much he can keep it.....after all it's only ~$200 like you say. What I would tell him however is that until such time as he "Makes this right" he will no longer be welcome in your home....or anywhere else you may be together with him.

You go on to say that you aren't going to say anything to his dad and if he ever shows up with him again at your house you will simply tell him that he won't be coming in (Thanksgiving and Christmas included) and he knows why. this issue is between you and the kid and there is a big risk that if you try to involve the Uncle that could get ugly and you could lose both relationships.

If uncle calls and says he's coming for a visit tell him to leave Kiddo at home as he is no longer welcome at your home and he knows why. If the kid elects to tell dad then fine....otherwise just leave it between you and the Kid.

Someday the kid may grow up.....many do, or he may not in which case it won't matter but at least you gave it your best shot. He could surprise you now or some day in the future and "Man up" coming to you directly and apologizing..........but then again he may not. At least you took the higher road and from what you say it doesn't sound like it's about the $$ to you anyhow.

my .02:rolleyes:
 

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Punching the punk out won't get your stuff back and it could get you put in jail. And don't waste a day of your life driving to Houston.

Let the dad know and make it clear the cousin is not welcome at your house ever.

Don't waste any more time on it then that....you're not going to teach the looser anything.
 

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80 bucks for an old green bottle of Polo, something's fishy here.:D

I'd be confident in my poisition to both the kid and the dad. Dad's welcome, kids not.

I've lost a few friendships due to something loaned (often money) and never returned, cheaper in the end and when you see them on the street or someone else asks, the satisfaction is good cause your the one smiling. I don't miss any of what I didn't get back.
 

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I can't tell you what to do, we all have to live with the consequences of our decisions, but I can tell you what I did on just such an occasion.

My daughter had some stuff stolen, and there was only 1 person who had been in our house. She was a shady character that I did not like, but my daughter thought her to be a friend. Well I drove over to her house, and told her parents that I needed to speak to her in private about a private matter that happened at our home. It took a bit, but they left us alone. I told her that my daughter did not want the items back, that we were going to replace them, and that she was never allowed at my home again.

She half-heartedly tried to deny it, but she knew that we knew she did it. This only took a few minutes, and when I went to leave I told the parents that we had concluded our discussion, that she was no longer welcome in our home, and that if I ever saw her at my house again I would call the police, and then I left.

No further discussion, no further comment, just the blank looks on their faces and the ashen face of shame on their daughters face. I can still only imagine the inquisition that she had to sit through when I left.
 

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write it off... no matter what you do it will be wrong in the end..

don't let him in your house again..he'll be out of your uncles life soon enough

He sounds like the type that will be living at home as long as daddy will put up w/ him. I know a few that are / were 32+ yrs old before they got the boot.........one is still camped out jobless in his parents basement.

If its not worth the time to drive down there this week, get it back and not stress over it any further than you're better off forgetting about it .....until he wants or needs something, then ask for it back or replacement cash $$$ :grumble:
 

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Write it off and think of it like this. It cost u 200 bucks to get rid of rif raf. Talk to the uncle on the side and express ur assumptions with him so he understands why u will be writing of this punk. The uncle may want solve and squash the issue be prepared for that for sure. Prob here is ur assuming it's him. It all may point to him but in the end prove it. That's the sucky part. Good luck and like I said. It's only costing u 200 bucks to get this kid out of ur life. Karma is a bitch and he will get his soon enough.
 

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LOL I got rid of the damn boat last winter :) its the only bottle I own and my 73 hondo was bitchen... :skull

I'll bet you run a high end gucci silk skarf in place of the fuel fill cap on your 1974 Ford Maverick.
 

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By the way, I'd enjoy reading how you kicked your cousin's teeth in, got your stuff back, and left him in a pool of his own blood. It would play well to my John Wayne complex.

... but what if you end up doing a few years for aggravated assault since you are, in fact, openly discussing physical violence? What if he shoots you when you break into his place? He could have all kinds of hot weapons with which to pepper you. What if his dog tears you to shreds? People like that typically keep tough ass dogs around.

You might want to think this through a little bit or you could end up in court or in a box over a hat, cologne, and a watch.

... just sayin'.
 

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If you believe your uncle would want to know, then you should tell him based on that alone. When arrangements are being made for a family get-together is probably the wrong time to uncle know his kid is not welcome, that'll turn to shit. Tell him now or never.
I think I would want to know, and would respect the hell out of you for telling me, knowing how uncomfortable you are bringing it up should just reinforce to him how much you love him
Let me deal with it, write the stuff off but let him know so he can do something about it.
Like toss the little shithead out on his ass, fer instance.
 

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OK I now have the epilogue (sp?) for this story....

so I call my uncle last night and tell him straight up that I have some stuff missing from my house that shouldnt be and that the kid made off with them, I explain that he isnt welcome at my place ever again and that the boy needs to steer clear of me, I told him I would be calling the boy and dealing with him on my own. My Uncle was very understanding not really shocked, he said he would look for my stuff and send it to me if he finds it we move on and talk about the current hot rod project and what not...

So I call my cousin shortly after this and basically tell him that he is never welcome at my place again and that it would be in his best interest to stay away from me unless he is man enough to offer me an apology face to face in which case I still may just bitch slap him for the hassle.... So then the lies begin... not even good ones...??.. basically some kind of bs about how he thought the cologne was his dads?? and that he barrowed the watch and hat for when we went out saturday, but forgot to wear them and left it in his bag.....??? wtf ??

so after the 5 mins of him stumbling around in his own bullshit, I told him to give the stuff to his dad, and that he still needed to stay the hell away from me and along with find a place to stay if he ever comes through town... end of story...

I feel pretty decent about the outcome, and not really concerned about writting him off.

I feel bad because I know my uncle deals with this stuff on a daily basis and was very polite and expecting, when I told him... unfortunatly karma will catch up with the kid and hopefully dad will have written him off at that point too so he doesnt have to clean up that mess either.
 

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OK I now have the epilogue (sp?) for this story....

so I call my uncle last night and tell him straight up that I have some stuff missing from my house that shouldnt be and that the kid made off with them, I explain that he isnt welcome at my place ever again and that the boy needs to steer clear of me, I told him I would be calling the boy and dealing with him on my own. My Uncle was very understanding not really shocked, he said he would look for my stuff and send it to me if he finds it we move on and talk about the current hot rod project and what not...

So I call my cousin shortly after this and basically tell him that he is never welcome at my place again and that it would be in his best interest to stay away from me unless he is man enough to offer me an apology face to face in which case I still may just bitch slap him for the hassle.... So then the lies begin... not even good ones...??.. basically some kind of bs about how he thought the cologne was his dads?? and that he barrowed the watch and hat for when we went out saturday, but forgot to wear them and left it in his bag.....??? wtf ??

so after the 5 mins of him stumbling around in his own bullshit, I told him to give the stuff to his dad, and that he still needed to stay the hell away from me and along with find a place to stay if he ever comes through town... end of story...

I feel pretty decent about the outcome, and not really concerned about writting him off.

I feel bad because I know my uncle deals with this stuff on a daily basis and was very polite and expecting, when I told him... unfortunatly karma will catch up with the kid and hopefully dad will have written him off at that point too so he doesnt have to clean up that mess either.

not a bad out come...

I hate when people steal from me....but then, nothing is really mine,

god is loaning it to me till he takes me out...

all I gots is my sole...
 

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OK I now have the epilogue (sp?) for this story....

so I call my uncle last night and tell him straight up that I have some stuff missing from my house that shouldnt be and that the kid made off with them, I explain that he isnt welcome at my place ever again and that the boy needs to steer clear of me, I told him I would be calling the boy and dealing with him on my own. My Uncle was very understanding not really shocked, he said he would look for my stuff and send it to me if he finds it we move on and talk about the current hot rod project and what not...

So I call my cousin shortly after this and basically tell him that he is never welcome at my place again and that it would be in his best interest to stay away from me unless he is man enough to offer me an apology face to face in which case I still may just bitch slap him for the hassle.... So then the lies begin... not even good ones...??.. basically some kind of bs about how he thought the cologne was his dads?? and that he barrowed the watch and hat for when we went out saturday, but forgot to wear them and left it in his bag.....??? wtf ??

so after the 5 mins of him stumbling around in his own bullshit, I told him to give the stuff to his dad, and that he still needed to stay the hell away from me and along with find a place to stay if he ever comes through town... end of story...

I feel pretty decent about the outcome, and not really concerned about writting him off.

I feel bad because I know my uncle deals with this stuff on a daily basis and was very polite and expecting, when I told him... unfortunatly karma will catch up with the kid and hopefully dad will have written him off at that point too so he doesnt have to clean up that mess either.

Thanks for the update. Nicely done.
 

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:thumbsup Way to go, 73 hondo!

It's a good thing that Uncle was understanding and somewhat aware of his son's "potential". I'm sure your accusal of his son was difficult for him to swallow, but it sounds like he was on your side and, as I said, aware that his son was capable of this.

Good luck restraining yourself when you see Cuz next time.:bash:
 

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not a bad out come...

I hate when people steal from me....but then, nothing is really mine,

god is loaning it to me till he takes me out...

all I gots is my sole...

Dont you mean nothings yours cause you are just holding it for a minute til you sell it? :D
 

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73, nicely done!

Maybe he will learn something but probably not
 

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Great conclusion for you and the best thing for the family in the long run.

It will be interesting to see how this kid turns out..........although the likelihood is that he won;t turn out good!
 
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